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  1. #31
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    Just for giggles, google up GW. Now, you have to go down 12 or 14 pages to get past the stuff generated to get their ratings up & bury the stuff they don't want you to see. How many of us regularly go down more than 3 or 4 pages? Once you get way down the list you'll find the comments etc. of employees, and even managers dropping the dime on how really crooked GW is. Just like THing you have to keep digging to get to the gold!

    Bet you'll be amazed!!!
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    Most of these posts sound like sour grapes to me. The people who donated the items did so so that the proceeds would help people. They did not donate the item so goodwill could sell it to you for pennies on the dollar and you resell it for profit you pocket. No one forces you to go to goodwill.

    Also, lots of accusations without supporting links/facts. And all you complaining about salaries must write your congress people weekly about the bankers/corporations that own our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post

    I did not donate to goodwill to help people. I donated to Goodwill so I would not have to pay to dispose of my yard sale junk.
    Valid reason for donating. Sounds like goodwill is providing you a service for free. You must be a fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post

    If I were a fan I would be a 5 dollar fan and they would have stuck a 10 dollar price tag on me while I was over there. Some people think I am worth more than I really am. (just kidding)
    That was a funny response...apologies for being salty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverdollarbill View Post
    Most of these posts sound like sour grapes to me. The people who donated the items did so so that the proceeds would help people. They did not donate the item so goodwill could sell it to you for pennies on the dollar and you resell it for profit you pocket. No one forces you to go to goodwill.

    Also, lots of accusations without supporting links/facts. And all you complaining about salaries must write your congress people weekly about the bankers/corporations that own our country.
    No....... Not sour grapes here. Back in the early 70s Goodwill DID do good for people. They have just evolved into a grab as much as we can get our grubby hands on organization. Would you "donate" to an organization that is nothing more than a lie? I'll bet bottom dollar you're intelligent and don't!

    If you're gonna tell me you're an agency that helps people and does good for so many with my donation / money, then do it! Don't lie to me and line your pockets, there's other small agencies doing tons for people that need help, they deserve our donations / money. What's that old saying? "Don't pee on my boots and try to convince me that it's raining"
    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogeyman View Post

    No....... Not sour grapes here. Back in the early 70s Goodwill DID do good for people. They have just evolved into a grab as much as we can get our grubby hands on organization. Would you "donate" to an organization that is nothing more than a lie? I'll bet bottom dollar you're intelligent and don't!

    If you're gonna tell me you're an agency that helps people and does good for so many with my donation / money, then do it! Don't lie to me and line your pockets, there's other small agencies doing tons for people that need help, they deserve our donations / money. What's that old saying? "Don't pee on my boots and try to convince me that it's raining"
    You should back up your comments with supporting links and facts.

    Back in the 70s, lots of things where different. Pre-1971 the dollar was backed by gold, glass-steagall existed. There is probably some hypocrisy/greed going on at goodwill. As upset many are about goodwill, I cannot imagine how they deal with the big players in the hypocrisy/greed arena.

    My point is that all these people who are mad at goodwill are mad because they are no longer able to take advantage of that org for their own profit.

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    silverdollarbill, I can't speak for anyone else here but as I explained in my original post it's not about whether or not I can make money off of them. Yes, it's annoying to have entire categories of merchandise disappear from a chain of stores when those items are items you've made money from in the past. However I was thrifting many, many years before I started "treasure hunting" and that is where my primary complaint with the ongoing changes at Goodwill lie. From my late teen years on I spent countless hours really thoroughly going through clothes and housewares and records etc, at hundreds of thrift & antique shops, scattered across several states. I learned an incredible amount about the differences between things that are well-made and things that are not (also learned a lot about seventies rock); up until a year ago that learning was all dedicated to curating a wardrobe/home/library/music collection full of things that I really loved, not on making any money from those things at all.

    Part of that process entails looking at and sorting through lots of random dirty broken flimsy junk that got donated instead of thrown away through sheer chance, but it's still enjoyable because sometimes there's a payoff, whether it's emotional or financial. The GW stores in my area are now essentially shelves and racks full of over-priced, poorly-made, roughly used mass produced junk (I'm into that because I'm American, obviously, but I just buy it new at the same price from Wal-Mart or Target). GW no longer cares about helping the community by providing quality second-hand goods at affordable prices, they would rather divert those donations to the highest bidder. They're doing this while still implying that "thrift" is possible in their stores when it generally isn't, at least in my area. As far as their books are concerned, items easily sell for tens or hundreds of times on their auction site what they would have in-store but I don't see them ramping up their charitable efforts accordingly. I don't think anyone here is trying to directly accuse them of mishandling assets so I'm not sure why you keep ignoring all other points and demanding references, it's more like a pile of poor business practices that have begun to rub a lot of people the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    The part I highlighted is what worries me. How much of that 83% goes for wages and benefits to employees and other expenses ? I know people should not have to work for nothing but numbers like these really don't tell you much. Our Goodwill store is in the most expensive retail district. It is a good place to dump your leftover yard sale junk and they will give a donation receipt for your taxes but that doesn't help you much if at all.
    There is not much difference in any of these so called charitable organizations nowadays. They are all driven by profits, even Salvation Army which is listed as a religious org. and doesn't have to file a 990. Anyone that thinks differently is living with blinders on, this is America after all. Where corporate greed is the king of kings.

    ps- Those percentage figures refer to the percentage of total budget/expenses that each listed organization spends on providing charitable programs and services and does not include salaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kali_is_my_copilot View Post
    GW no longer cares about helping the community by providing quality second-hand goods at affordable prices, they would rather divert those donations to the highest bidder.
    Their mission is not to sell second hand goods to poor people. That is where you are confused. Their mission is to make as much money as possible off of those second hand goods in order to use that money for their so called job programs. Listen, I agree that I think they try to squeeze too much out of the donated goods they get. No argument there. I also agree that I think the numbers are a little skewed as to the monies they put forth for their "programs". Because they actually make money off of many of these programs too. Did you know that Goodwill of S.Fl. Goodwill’s Apparel Manufacturing Department produced over 6,000 military uniforms and flags daily for our country’s military during 2013 (which is actually a lot less than in previous years)? They used mainly handicapped employees paid them minimum wage (sometimes less) and then sold those goods for profit also. I'm sure they didn't donate those flags and uniforms. They also have a document shredding company where they employ the people they've trained and hired. Their main account being the IRS. Now they've opened a multi-million dollar laundering facility in Liberty City to provide a laundry and linen service for the area's hospitals. Hire some people from the ghetto (preferably handicapped), pay them minimum wage and BAM! mo money, mo money, mo money! I thought this was a not for profit? Yet everything they do ends up as a Goodwill business that makes more money. Kind of like having your cake and eating it too.

    BTW- Each region of Goodwill has an annual report available to read online. How much of it is true and how much of it is hype is somewhere in the middle as far as i'm concerned. You should search for your area. Here is the last annual report for the Goodwill's in S.Fl.- http://cdn.trustedpartner.com/docs/l...t_ZGBWFFUE.pdf


    Also, the only reason I donate to Goodwill is because it's the closest thrift to my house to get rid of my yard sale junk and Salvation Army isn't open on Sundays.

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    Saw a new plastic can of 3 tennis balls at GW on Saturday....my dog likes tennis balls (I usually get a can of 3 or 4 at KMart for 2.99 or 3.99)....

    Picked it up to put in cart...GW price...$4.00 !!!!


    WTF?

    KMart actually had to buy the balls to sell....GW gets them donated!!!!!!

    Back to the shelf it went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogeyman View Post
    Just for giggles, google up GW. Now, you have to go down 12 or 14 pages to get past the stuff generated to get their ratings up & bury the stuff they don't want you to see
    nope! had to go to pg 24 before things were not phony "look at what we do" pages
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    When I did yard sales I was dollardan. No yard sales where I am now.

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    I'm not a big fan of the retail Goodwill stores, 95% of all the good stuff goes in a silent auction case. But luckily at the one near me they have an outlet store, the big blue bins and you pay for it by the pound. I have found some really cool stuff in there and a few valuable items for cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverdollarbill View Post
    You should back up your comments with supporting links and facts.

    Back in the 70s, lots of things where different. Pre-1971 the dollar was backed by gold, glass-steagall existed. There is probably some hypocrisy/greed going on at goodwill. As upset many are about goodwill, I cannot imagine how they deal with the big players in the hypocrisy/greed arena.

    My point is that all these people who are mad at goodwill are mad because they are no longer able to take advantage of that org for their own profit.
    "You should back up your comments with supporting links and facts".>GOOGLE!< Read my responses! Read what the employees etc say, it's not that hard to use google to do a little research. I'm not out trying to make money from Goodwill. The fact is, I've probably donated more to Good Will than most here. A partner & I used to do house clean outs & clear out what wasn't bought at estate sales. Usually 1/4 to 1/3 of it we sold & the rest went to Goodwill. <FACT. Like I said, they were a good organization (20+)years back <fact They turned into a money grabbing organization helping very few if any. There are a lot of others like Salvation Army & Church thrift stores that do a heck of a lot more with a lot less helping people that need a leg up.
    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

    I think I know what my last words will be....
    "Hold my beer and watch this!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogeyman View Post

    "You should back up your comments with supporting links and facts".>GOOGLE!< Read my responses! Read what the employees etc say, it's not that hard to use google to do a little research. I'm not out trying to make money from Goodwill. The fact is, I've probably donated more to Good Will than most here. A partner & I used to do house clean outs & clear out what wasn't bought at estate sales. Usually 1/4 to 1/3 of it we sold & the rest went to Goodwill. <FACT. Like I said, they were a good organization (20+)years back <fact They turned into a money grabbing organization helping very few if any. There are a lot of others like Salvation Army & Church thrift stores that do a heck of a lot more with a lot less helping people that need a leg up.
    I would recommend not going there or donating anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverdollarbill View Post
    I would recommend not going there or donating anymore.
    Thank you! I don't and hope others take their money & donations to someone that helps others than themselves.
    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

    I think I know what my last words will be....
    "Hold my beer and watch this!"

 

 
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