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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    What's the best metal detector that a UFO alien can buy for $500. Is probably the md'ing related question at stake here.
    That'd be a question for one of the docents at a N. Calif. historical society! They got ALL the answers! Just ask Sheldon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR View Post
    One problem, Osprey's came out later ........Date of this incident was 1988
    Not really a problem. We used to sit out on the porch White Hills Arizona (mid 60s on) and watch lights zipping around, doing the sharp 90 degree turns, dive like they were going to crash & shoot straight up. Back then we didn't know anything about area 51 etc. Just knew Nellis was that a way. The stuff we observed then was like what was being reported in the 80s & 90s. One thing to remember, what stealth, different propulsion etc we see now the govt is 20+ years ahead. Plus adding in seeing missile launches at Vandenberg that looked like they were just over Lake Mead. I'd bet if you went out there or up on Mt. Charleston you'd have a good shot at seeing stuff in the sky.

    My theory? 85% ours 15%
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    Quote Originally Posted by devldog View Post
    I can't say that I have witnessed a UFO but I have seen aliens. Some are members of Congress. Their thought process is out of this world and they need to be Deported to another galaxy. Seriously.
    I've alway's wondered about Jvanka
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinpan View Post
    Hi Close Encounters of Substance Abuse Types TP
    Could be.
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    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralising temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilisation', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian, written AD 98.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davers View Post
    Cool.

    The Hudson Valley was 'Mother Ship ' Central for a good bit of the mid & late 1980's.

    I would have love to have been there ...I think
    Wait was this the one that sat over the Kingston Rhinebeck bridge. I did see that as well but from a far with my father and grandmother. It was huge and we had no idea what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR View Post
    LOL REALLY LOL.....So now your telling me this is what we saw ?REALLY ? Two hundred feet directly above my home ? IF that were the case why did MUFON classify the photos as "Unidentified" ?
    Not saying that at all. Saying VTOL aircraft other than heliopters have been around since before 1988.

    I have no opinion on what people think they saw. Something they could not identify at ant point above the ground = UFO.

    Until we catch one there is no evidence they are "extraterrestrial" - as they were spotted above Terra and that would be good evidence that they also started there.
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    would like to share with you a story of a UFO that myself and 100’s of others witnessed in May of 1997 over Oneida Lake NY. The event if you can imagine was an almost carbon copy of the Phoenix lights seen in AZ. a few months back, in fact one of the formations was identical to what was seen in Phoenix AZ.

    We witnessed lights following the same type of formation as the Phoenix lights forming different patterns in the night sky, any where from 3 lights up to 12 and it took place over the course of 2 nights. My family and I video taped over 3 hours of footage, which was featured on a local news report, researchers tried to get the tape on the show Fox’s Greatest Ufo’s ever recorded produced by Kiviat studios, MUFON did an extensive report which I have attached, I also will put links to the videos and news cast below that are now uploaded to Youtube.

    The lights were actually so bright that people in Ogdensburg NY ( 3 hours away) witnessed the event.. that’s an extremely bright light!!!!! A quick excerpt from the original MUFON report shows how amazed the MUFON reporters were:

    “What they videotaped to the “Phoenix formations” (they viewed it on the internet) and when a copy of their tape was sent to a veteran UFO investigator Bill Hamilton and Tom King in Phoenix, they were astounded at the quality and duration of the Granoski sightings. The signature formation (ed. About 7 lights in a row) from the Granoski tape matches almost exactly the “signature formation from Phoenix and has astounded all parties who have studied it (including former NASA scientist Richard Hoagland) with its similarity. Veteran investigator Tom King even suggested that the tape was so good that he brought it to the attention of Robert Kiviat Productions.”

    After the event, a black helicopter was seen by over 6 people flying up and down the area over houses, it had no marking, a large disk like device on the bottom of it and black tinted windows, and when it flew over the houses it caused electronics in the house to go crazy. A call to local military / airbases claimed — you guessed it — that no helicopters were in the area, especially ones without markings and all black, it was estimated that the helicopter was about 200 feet about the tree line.

    About a week after the tape got out and news reports hit, I had an extremely odd experience in my home, where I awoke to a gentleman standing next to the bed. I estimated him to be about 6 1/2 foot tall, wearing a top hat looking hat, black and white striped dress shirt and black pants —he was saying you know what I want, you know what I want… when I asked what he was talking about he said the tape… during this whole encounter I felt very calm almost sedated and had no fear, when he heard our dog stir down the hall he immediately ran out of the house, I gave chase and when I reached the door, I felt like I had snapped out of a trance like state and was not sure if what i encountered was real or not.

    Eventually that summer I became extremely ill… no diagnosis could be confirmed for what I had, I began to get jaundice and weak, sharp pains in my side and doctors were baffled by what was effecting me. After a week of blood work the doctor was considering admitting me to the hospital for further testing… I was taking a shower (I was about 20 yrs old at the time) getting ready to go to the hospital and when I got out of the shower, in the mirror of my bathroom, if you can imagine a steamed up mirror was a perfectly un-steamed 1/2 face of a grey alien, the rest of the mirror was foggy, I ran out of the bathroom, my windows were opened and the blinds were slamming back and forth and remember collapsing, I then later got up got ready, completely shaken by the event and my mom drove me to the hospital, where the doctors said my jaundice had cleared, blood levels had returned and I was 100% better for what they could see… sent me home and never had any more problems.

    My dad after the viewing of the UFOs also had loud humming noises emitting from his ears and a weird vibration sensation take over his body numerous occasions after the event happened.

    Original first run Fox News 68 of the sighting

    Roundtable discussion of the event
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    I've spent a lot of time over the years looking at the sky. Had a telescope at one time, don't remember what happened to it.

    I've never seen anything I suspected as a UFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTR View Post
    Just confused by your quote stating that Project Blue Book setup an office in your county, when the beginning of your account takes place 19 years after Blue Book shutdown (1969 vs 1988). It kinda' read like you were saying Blue Book setup an office in 1988, guessing that's not what you meant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MCX View Post
    Just confused by your quote stating that Project Blue Book setup an office in your county, when the beginning of your account takes place 19 years after Blue Book shutdown (1969 vs 1988). It kinda' read like you were saying Blue Book setup an office in 1988, guessing that's not what you meant?
    UFO sightings in the Hudson Valley were 'common place' before 69 (that's why project blue book ) came to town. My sighting had nothing to do w/them.I only dealt w/MUFON.
    And the Hudson Valley is STILL a hot spot
    https://wpdh.com/there-were-11-ufo-s...alley-in-2018/
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    Ok, budding rocket scientists, including me: Where does the light go when the light goes out?

    BTW I saw a high altitude something way back in the day that moved WAY too fast for a plane, still remember, never figured it out. Could have been a ballistic missile, BUT...we're still here, so probably not.
    I saw a REALLY high altitude object going WAY faster and flying WAY higher than a plane...no noise. A few nights later I realized what it was...the Space Station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDXMonster View Post
    I saw a REALLY high altitude object going WAY faster and flying WAY higher than a plane...no noise. A few nights later I realized what it was...the Space Station.
    You can see a lot of satellites in the hours just after sunset or before sunrise. Being in a higher orbit they are still in sunlight and reflect the sun's rays. It's pretty cool.
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    I saw something back in the early 80's, 1982 I think it was. I was dating a girl who lived 50 or so miles away, I used to stay over her place at the weekends and drive home early on Monday mornings ready for work. One such morning around 6am I was driving along a quiet dual carriageway, it was just starting to get light and as I was looking around at the countryside to my right I noticed a white light moving slowly towards the road a couple of hundred yards in front of me. It was pretty low, I guess around 20 feet in the air and that was what caught my attention. I slowed down until I was around 50 feet away and watched it slowly move from right to left, as soon as it reached the road it did an arch over the road then dropped to its original height. By now I have stopped the car and got out to have a closer look. It didn't seem to have a shape, it looked just like a lantern type light, it was moving real slow, around 10mph I would guess. There was no sound whatsoever. I watched it hover over the field to my left. The hairs stood up on the back of my neck, it was pretty strange feeling. I watched it for a few seconds until it eventually disappeared in the distance.
    If this was the present day I would immediately think drone, but this was 1982. To this day I still can't think what it was.
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    If your a fisherman.....and you fish at night on a regular basis, mark my words......you will see U.F.Os. I've also seen incredible identifiable objects too. From Canaveral launches, and meteor showers to underwater submarine launched ballistic missile tests and even drug planes dropping loads with flashers on them. You can sit offshore of the keys and watch the flight traffic of south Miami international, tami Ami airport, marathon airport, keywest international, homestead airforce base, boca chica air base amongst others. Including Cuban and bahamian air space. Have I ever seen alien space craft....I dont know because I dont know what a real one looks like since none have been confirmed for Identification purposes. But last summer out by rebecca's shoal 40 miles west of keywest we saw 15 UFOs at once !! They flashed on for about 5 minutes in the northern sky and hovered in place flashing in patterns to each other for a good 3-4 minutes. Then they blinked out 3 at a time and they were gone. One of our deck hands refused to look that way and just kept saying " I dont want to look , I dont want to look" he kept his hands over his eyes until they were gone. If you want to see UFOs......then go out in the straits of Florida at night and you will see something that you won't be able to explain sooner or later. But......its the Bermuda triangle.....hell Christopher Columbus saw strange lights on his voyage to the new world.....so....its been going on awhile here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase7628 View Post
    would like to share with you a story of a UFO that myself and 100’s of others witnessed in May of 1997 over Oneida Lake NY. The event if you can imagine was an almost carbon copy of the Phoenix lights seen in AZ. a few months back, in fact one of the formations was identical to what was seen in Phoenix AZ.

    We witnessed lights following the same type of formation as the Phoenix lights forming different patterns in the night sky, any where from 3 lights up to 12 and it took place over the course of 2 nights. My family and I video taped over 3 hours of footage, which was featured on a local news report, researchers tried to get the tape on the show Fox’s Greatest Ufo’s ever recorded produced by Kiviat studios, MUFON did an extensive report which I have attached, I also will put links to the videos and news cast below that are now uploaded to Youtube.

    The lights were actually so bright that people in Ogdensburg NY ( 3 hours away) witnessed the event.. that’s an extremely bright light!!!!! A quick excerpt from the original MUFON report shows how amazed the MUFON reporters were:

    “What they videotaped to the “Phoenix formations” (they viewed it on the internet) and when a copy of their tape was sent to a veteran UFO investigator Bill Hamilton and Tom King in Phoenix, they were astounded at the quality and duration of the Granoski sightings. The signature formation (ed. About 7 lights in a row) from the Granoski tape matches almost exactly the “signature formation from Phoenix and has astounded all parties who have studied it (including former NASA scientist Richard Hoagland) with its similarity. Veteran investigator Tom King even suggested that the tape was so good that he brought it to the attention of Robert Kiviat Productions.”

    After the event, a black helicopter was seen by over 6 people flying up and down the area over houses, it had no marking, a large disk like device on the bottom of it and black tinted windows, and when it flew over the houses it caused electronics in the house to go crazy. A call to local military / airbases claimed — you guessed it — that no helicopters were in the area, especially ones without markings and all black, it was estimated that the helicopter was about 200 feet about the tree line.

    About a week after the tape got out and news reports hit, I had an extremely odd experience in my home, where I awoke to a gentleman standing next to the bed. I estimated him to be about 6 1/2 foot tall, wearing a top hat looking hat, black and white striped dress shirt and black pants —he was saying you know what I want, you know what I want… when I asked what he was talking about he said the tape… during this whole encounter I felt very calm almost sedated and had no fear, when he heard our dog stir down the hall he immediately ran out of the house, I gave chase and when I reached the door, I felt like I had snapped out of a trance like state and was not sure if what i encountered was real or not.

    Eventually that summer I became extremely ill… no diagnosis could be confirmed for what I had, I began to get jaundice and weak, sharp pains in my side and doctors were baffled by what was effecting me. After a week of blood work the doctor was considering admitting me to the hospital for further testing… I was taking a shower (I was about 20 yrs old at the time) getting ready to go to the hospital and when I got out of the shower, in the mirror of my bathroom, if you can imagine a steamed up mirror was a perfectly un-steamed 1/2 face of a grey alien, the rest of the mirror was foggy, I ran out of the bathroom, my windows were opened and the blinds were slamming back and forth and remember collapsing, I then later got up got ready, completely shaken by the event and my mom drove me to the hospital, where the doctors said my jaundice had cleared, blood levels had returned and I was 100% better for what they could see… sent me home and never had any more problems.

    My dad after the viewing of the UFOs also had loud humming noises emitting from his ears and a weird vibration sensation take over his body numerous occasions after the event happened.

    Original first run Fox News 68 of the sighting

    Roundtable discussion of the event
    While we're on the subject of the Phoenix Lights, how come all the stories & reports start with the lights over the valley? There were reports of the UFO coming down along the I17, making the turn, and that's where the story starts!?!? There were some reports that were plotted and it looked exactly like it came from the area of Area51, made a real gentle right bank down the West side of the I17. Didn't bookmark it & haven't been able to find the page since...... Anyone see this part of the story? Anyone seen the page/site I'm talking about?
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