Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 24

Thread: ..

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #1

    Apr 2004
    Colorado
    115

    ..

    ..
    ColoradoMike

    It's a good Life!

  2. #2
    us
    Tesoro Cibola

    Jul 2005
    Massachusetts
    Tesoro Cibola
    3,020
    8 times

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Chances are it is highly unstable Be very carefull!! After awhile the n.g. can crystallize making it extremely shock sensetive I would research it more before moving it or maybe call a professional.

  3. #3

    Dec 2003
    Western Schuylkill County
    MINELAB EXPLORER SE PRO ....... Garrett Pro Pointer…… Sovereign XS-2 Pro
    66,850
    31438 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Call an Explosives Expert in your area.

    I Personally Don't think Old Dynamite is as Dangerious as Everyone says,
    BUT I wouldn't trust My Belief system on this to take chances.

    I REPEAT.

    CALL AN EXPERT !

  4. #4
    Charter Member
    pa
    Pirate of the Ays

    May 2004
    Panama
    Minelab Excal 1000
    1,721
    139 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Run! very fast
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Untitled01.jpg 
Views:	647 
Size:	68.2 KB 
ID:	79814  

  5. #5
    us
    Jun 2005
    510
    4 times

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    I think there are a few EOD guys here; I'm not one of them. No experience, just know a few facts.

    If dynamite sits for a long time, the nitroglycerine will settle to the bottom, concentrate, and leak out. This is very unstable.

    Frozen dynamite is also very sensitive.

    Dynamite can be burned rather than detonated, but I don't think you want to try this with a big pile.

  6. #6

    Dec 2003
    Western Schuylkill County
    MINELAB EXPLORER SE PRO ....... Garrett Pro Pointer…… Sovereign XS-2 Pro
    66,850
    31438 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    LOL Wreckdiver !

    Someguy said "Dynamite can be burned rather than detonated".

    This is why I wonder.


  7. #7
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
    14,603
    11803 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    [ColoradoMike
    .
    Need to know how to move a few cases of dynamite safely. Does anyone know how volatile this stuff really is.
    ~~~~~

    A) What I am going to say is for your general information. You should call the State division of mining or hazardous materials, and tell them exactly what you have, how it looks, and the conditions - see following.

    1. Most important, is there a "whitish granular coating" appearing anywhere? On the dynamite, the container, or on the ground? If so, just back away quietly and come on down here for a longer and safer life fighting with the drug Cartels and freelance bandidos. That is a combination of Nitroglycerin, extremely sensitive and naturally a very high plosive. A spark, or a shock of any kind can set it off.

    To a certain extent, Dynamite that has "not" deteriorated to this extent, can be burned "in the open" relatively safely in small lots. Keep a tongue in cheek on that word "relative".

    Dyanamite that "does" have this granular residue is extremely unstable. In this state, sometimes just picking it up may initiate the explosive train.

    Under certain conditions soaking it with water can make it less sensitive, but this includes the entire area that may have this whitish exudate. This means wetting it into every part of the mass, al la immersion for an extended time.

    Noble earned his money to establish the Noble Peace prize by finding that he could mix Nitroglycerin with a inert substance making it far far safer to handle. Later they added additional components to make it even more powerful. If any markings are still visible they will tell you how much Nitroglycerin is mixed in the Dynamite i.e. 20 30 40 %. Generally in mining they used the most concentrated form available.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    . Just need to move it a few feet. Is it as dangerous as we are lead to believe. Can it be neutralized etc?
    Thanks for any input.
    ~~~~~
    A) See above, it is just as dangerous to move it, pick it up etc. if it has the whitish granular exudation as 100 miles.

    Final word, call the state division of mining or hazardous materials.

    I once had to move a case of dynamite that was covered with this whitish Exidue, sheehs. It had to be moved. fortunately there was a shaft nearby that was filled to the top with water so I eased it over there and gently let it disappear into the depths. No I wasn't killed.

    I did a bit of bomb disposal during the war. wonderful way to check on your Adrenalin production.

    Till Eulenspeigle

    p.s. If yu are one of those that enjoys playing Russian roulette with a revolver in a dark room , you just might get way with it, but I suggest that you will your apparatus/machines etc., to me first.
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  8. #8

    Apr 2004
    Colorado
    115

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Thanks for the good info. I can't for reasons you can guess bring anyone in to remove it. I really am thinking this is a KGC set up, but I don't know enough about that stuff to say 100%. I wonder if I capped the entrance & drilled down into the cave from above if I could safely water log it as you suggested. What about that foamy stuff they use on runways on the movies when a plan crashes?

    ColoradoMike

    It's a good Life!

  9. #9
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
    14,603
    11803 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    author=ColoradoMike

    Thanks for the good info. I can't for reasons you can guess bring anyone in to remove it.

    ~~~~~
    A) If there is nothing of value "showing", why not?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    thinking this is a KGC set up,
    ~~~~~~
    A) If it was setup within the past 50 or so years, they would have used a more stable and higher energy explosive, no? But most important, if it was a trap, why would they leave the dynamite in an exposed site so that you could see it?

    Does it have detonating or primer cords, fuse, or any wires leading into the Dyanamite? If not, then it is strictly a deposit, not a trap.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    . I wonder if I capped the entrance & drilled down into the cave from above if I could safely water log it as you suggested.
    ~~~~~
    A) Very possible, but where would you get that much water?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What about that foamy stuff they use on runways on the movies when a plan crashes?
    ~~~~~

    A) Mostly a lubricant and fire ******ant combination, not a penetrant.

    CALL YOUR STATE DIV. OF MININ, HAZARDOUS MATERIELS, OR -- NEAREST EXPOSIVE DEALER.""--.

    Last couple of notes -Nitroglycerin remover and deactivator.

    1 1/2 qrts of water, 3 1/2 quarts of Alcohol, 1 qt acetone, 1 # Sodium sulphate (60%).
    Use freely to decompose Nitroglycerin - at least 2 gallons for each lb of Nitroglycerin.

    Allow sufficient time to work.

    Till Eulenspeigle


    [/quote]
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  10. #10
    us
    Dec 2005
    Eugene, Oregon
    Fisher CZ5, White's GM VSat
    4,095
    124 times

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    If its in the open, lay a fresh stick next to it and detonate it, should take care of it rather quickly.....

  11. #11

    Apr 2004
    Colorado
    115

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Quote Originally Posted by RealdeTayopa
    author=ColoradoMike

    Thanks for the good info. I can't for reasons you can guess bring anyone in to remove it.

    ~~~~~
    A) If there is nothing of value "showing", why not?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    thinking this is a KGC set up,
    ~~~~~~
    A) If it was setup within the past 50 or so years, they would have used a more stable and higher energy explosive, no? But most important, if it was a trap, why would they leave the dynamite in an exposed site so that you could see it?

    Does it have detonating or primer cords, fuse, or any wires leading into the Dyanamite? If not, then it is strictly a deposit, not a trap.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    . I wonder if I capped the entrance & drilled down into the cave from above if I could safely water log it as you suggested.
    ~~~~~
    A) Very possible, but where would you get that much water?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What about that foamy stuff they use on runways on the movies when a plan crashes?
    ~~~~~

    A) Mostly a lubricant and fire ******ant combination, not a penetrate.

    CALL YOUR STATE DIV. OF MININ, HAZARDOUS MATERIELS, OR -- NEAREST EXPOSIVE DEALER.""--.

    Last couple of notes -Nitroglycerin remover and deactivate.

    1 1/2 qrts of water, 3 1/2 quarts of Alcohol, 1 qt acetone, 1 # Sodium sulphate (60%).
    Use freely to decompose Nitroglycerin - at least 2 gallons for each lb of Nitroglycerin.

    Allow sufficient time to work.

    Till Eulenspeigle

    [/quote]

    It's right on top of the target. Right on top. From the arms in there I'd say the date is late 1870-1880's. I'm no expert though.

    The alcohol you mention is that like wood alcohol or rubbing or what? How long do I let it work, overnight? Are you really really sure you won't get me killed?
    Wanna make a $100 bucks.....LOL

    Thanks for the help again.

    ColoradoMike

    It's a good Life!

  12. #12

    Dec 2004
    1,382
    67 times

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    4 {temporary} laborers and 2 cases of coldweiser,,,,get them buzzed, point the direction, and take cover......simply rake target up off ground when they are finished.............................g

  13. #13

    Apr 2004
    Colorado
    115

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Quote Originally Posted by gldhntr
    4 {temporary} laborers and 2 cases of coldweiser,,,,get them buzzed, point the direction, and take cover......simply rake target up off ground when they are finished.............................g
    Maybe I can get a few of those will work for food guys?
    I thought of tieing it off with about 2oo' of rope to my ATV with plenty of slack & just taken off like a bat out of hell. I'm afraid the cave would crumble. It's so far outin the middle of nowhere no one would hear a thing. I even thought well if it does cave in, I could always just dig it out. The other relics would be destroyed though.
    Hell I'm too damn young & goodlooking to die though. LOL
    ColoradoMike

    It's a good Life!

  14. #14

    Jul 2005
    Ga
    111
    1 times

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    Hmmmm LOST dynamite meets young Indiana Jones cave. We need photos! Just don?t blow yourself up before you take the photos.

  15. #15
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
    14,603
    11803 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Need to move a few cases of 100+ year Old Dynamite. Any Ideas??

    author=ColoradoMike

    Are you really really sure you won't get me killed?
    Wanna make a $100 bucks.....LOL
    ~~~~~~
    A ?? why do you think that I said "will me your machines and equipment" colorado?

    Till Eulenspiegle

    .


    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Remove Ads

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0