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    Sep 2008
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    OKM??

    After researching the OKM EXP 4000 and some of the other products they carry, I still cant come to a conclusion on if I want to purchase th exp or something may be more "reliable" such as the minelab 4500. Im searching in areas with lots of minerals and not that much trash. Im lookin in depths of 10-30 ft deep, and looking for larger sized treasures. Im not really doubting the capability of each of the machines I just want to make sure the okm is reliable. or should I just spend less money for something thats not as advanced but works better?


  2. #2
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    Hey there,

    In regards to OKM and mineralized soil, please let it be known that the OKM capabilities are greatly compromised in highly mineralized soil.

  3. #3

    May 2005
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    "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana"

  4. #4
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Identifying targets using the OKM equipment

    I just received another E-Mail from a new user of the OKM equipment. When you are locating an object there are some primary rules that you need to follow.

    1. Do not turn or rotate the equipment. Please keep it facing the same direction as when it starts.
    2. Practice with the equipment on known targets so that you familiarize yourself with it and know the ins and outs. This goes for all equipment regardless of what it is.
    --- The OKM equipment will find cavities, faults and other fracture zones in the ground.
    3. With their software don't be deceived by a red spot on the software unless there is a hole (blue area) right next to it. Non-ferrous metals act as an amplifier so an old tin can may become your target.
    4. Make sure your battery(ies) are charged. The number one reason for equipment failure are uncharged or weak batteries.

  5. #5
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    Quote Originally Posted by Miloman
    After researching the OKM EXP 4000 and some of the other products they carry, I still cant come to a conclusion on if I want to purchase th exp or something may be more "reliable" such as the minelab 4500. Im searching in areas with lots of minerals and not that much trash. Im lookin in depths of 10-30 ft deep, and looking for larger sized treasures. Im not really doubting the capability of each of the machines I just want to make sure the okm is reliable. or should I just spend less money for something thats not as advanced but works better?

    The OKM Rover C that I have is from 2003 and has operated without a flaw. The best way to determine if it is right for you is to either visit a dealer, or find someone local who understands the equipment to show you. There have been a lot of finds with the OKM equipment. I personally have had a couple and there are a lot of people with a lot of testimonials. But in regards to reliability, I have been problem free.

    One question, are you looking for natural treasure or buried treasure

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    Nov 2004
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    Re: OKM??

    A friend of mine bought the OKM EXP 4000 and when we use a 1 meter vertical antenna on a known target (aluminum wheel from a car) buried at 1.5 meters, the results are inconsistent.During the test run and after downloading the image to the visualizer program it shows a red spot at the 11-th impulse mark altough we know it should be at the 9-th. Is it possible that we are not even detecting the wheel and there is something else at the 11-th impulse mark?
    Also if somebody has experience with this unit I'm curious to know what kind of metal targets they have been able to detect and at what depth. And also if it can locate tunnels.
    He asked me to find out as much as possible about this unit and I'd hate to be the one telling him that he spent 30,000 Euro for this piece of crap....

  7. #7
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    Have your friend contact me directly fcasser@okm-gmbh.de so that I can assisst him. There can possibly be something at the 11th pulse. If there is a ferrous object nearby a non-ferrous object the ferrous object will take precedence. The non-ferrous object may still be showing, just not as strong because it is being masked.

    Last weekend we had a possible find and right now we are waiting for the weather to clear to make a positive id on what it is.



    Also have your friend send me the scans *.v3d so that I can assist him even more.

  8. #8

    Nov 2004
    70
    3 times

    Re: OKM??

    Hi cassbiz ,thanx for the reply. My friend lives in a village with no internet connection. I will visit him in a few days to do more tests then copy and e-mail you the images.

  9. #9
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    Please do. Our new web site http://www.okm-usa.com will also be open by Monday where you can get even more information and help.

    I look forward to resolving your friends issues.

  10. #10

    Aug 2005
    gemini 3, TM 808
    251
    1 times

    Re: OKM??

    I had tried the OKM Exp4000 and came up with
    the following observations: (these were my personal observations and i have no intention to destroy the refutation of OKM/ )
    1. It cant give an accurate depth measurement. We detected a target at 7 meters and yet when we reached 7m, the target is not there.
    2. The signal tends to spread out as it gets through the soil layers. The located target is not directly under the area detected.
    3. The target buried in layers of chromite cannot be detected/discriminated.

    malabode

  11. #11
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    Hello Kaloy,

    The depth is calculated off of the input soil. Unfortunately, with different soil conditions it is very difficult to give an accurate depth. Personally I don't use that data.

    Questions for you.

    Were you able to repeat the scan and hit the target every time?
    Did you cross the target from varying compass headings, ie from the North, East, West, South?

    Can you please send me the files and I will gladly analyze them for you.

    fcasser@okm-gmbh.de

  12. #12

    Nov 2004
    70
    3 times

    Re: OKM??

    kaloy , SEVEN METERS? You must be really pissed. I've seen people dig 9 meters in granite because a "electroscope"LRL" pointed there...

  13. #13
    de
    Feb 2007
    Schmölln, Germany
    OKM, Whites, JW Fisher, Mala
    61
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: OKM??

    That is why I make sure there are a lot of scans before digging.

  14. #14

    Nov 2004
    70
    3 times

    Re: OKM?? money down the drain

    I sent cassbiz 5 OKM scans from 5 totally different locations. This is the professional response that I got:

    Hello HiiiQ,

    I was able to take a look at the scans and they look most impressive from the surface.

    As I analyzed the scans, it appears that there is a fair amount of ground water in the area. Also the most prominent target is on the ground but not deep. As a matter of fact it almost appears to be on the surface or right below it.

    When the signal strength is very strong there are a couple of indications that need to be taken into consideration.

    1. Is there a ground fault that was traversed? If so, then is it at one point or does it continue on in a linear path?

    2. Is there a well or air shaft? A well and an airshaft from a mine will almost appear exactly the same from the initial first scan. Whereas an airshaft usually can be differentiated by locating a mine shaft or tunnel in the vicinity. Best guess when such a strong signal is realized is to take a metal detector over the target area and see if there is a hit there. In the event that excavation seems to be the way to go, as soon as the first 20~30cm of topsoil is removed, perform another scan. Is your target still there?

    3. Is it surface trash? This is by far the most frustrating. The signal is so strong that you think you are on top of something big. A standard metal detector will help you to determine if it is surface trash. The eXp 4000 has a metal detector accessory or just a standard separate one will also work. For the most part you are only looking from 0~20 cm deep.

    All in all, like I mentioned earlier, real targets don't move. This appears to be a real target unfortunately it may be surface trash and I would scan the area with a metal detector to verify that it is or isn't before putting a lot of effort into it.

    Hope this helps,

    Frank Casser
    OKM-USA

    Is that total nonsense or am I crazy? I tried to explain to my friend that he bought a worthless piece of crap and he doesn't believe me because it is so "expensive".
    I taught GOLDEN KING PLUS is crap but it is at least based on real technology and can equal or exceed the performance of a $200 Bounty Hunter.
    OKM is a low grade magnetometer with software that creates some fancy worthless pictures. Don't forget that it comes from the same company that makes the BIONIC long-range locator. A couple of friends have it but I don't even want to discuss it.....
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

  15. #15

    Aug 2005
    gemini 3, TM 808
    251
    1 times

    Re: OKM??

    Quote Originally Posted by cassbiz
    Hello Kaloy,

    The depth is calculated off of the input soil. Unfortunately, with different soil conditions it is very difficult to give an accurate depth. Personally I don't use that data.

    Questions for you.

    Were you able to repeat the scan and hit the target every time?
    Did you cross the target from varying compass headings, ie from the North, East, West, South?

    Can you please send me the files and I will gladly analyze them for you.

    fcasser@okm-gmbh.de


    I will. Yes we repeat the scan and get the same results.
    malabode

 

 
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