Hello. Im a new prospector here in So Cal. Here is my adventure so far. (help?)

Elagantp

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Hello. I'm a new prospector here in So Cal. Here is my adventure so far. (help?)

ok so I'm a wedding entertainer. I make great money but I'm bored out of my mind Monday through Thursday. I've been watching the discovery science channel and came across a show about these people in Alaska with huge mining equipment finding gold. Ok I thought, that's cool. Now I get to the introduction part and they show these three huge jars chock full of gold and instantly I'm thinking, "honey pack the bags...oh yeah can I buy a tractor?" I figured if I can find 1% of that stash, I'd be doing pretty good. Welp, I love geology and rocks and such, even got a degree in it from college. I figured hell, I'd like to go prospecting. I tell my younger brother about hunting for some gold and he was all in. We will split everything we find 50/50. (he is the younger one in my avatar picture.) So on with my education! I cruised the interwebs; Read countless sites; watched hours of "Youtube" videos; found a local (right down the street) prospecting store. I went in and and "holy crap Batman! I'm going to need to start buying things!" I walked out of that store spending about $300.00 bucks. I bought a crap ton of books, maps, two 14" pans and a 10"pan. It took me two days to read all the books. Got myself a basic understanding. I explored the maps and found the locations of the small red splotches on them said to be gold bearing spots. Not too bad, and not too far away. The first spot was a place called "Blue Cut" in the Cajon Pass right off hwy 15. No problem. I took my maps, and two pans, called my brother and we were off to drive the 15 minutes to the spot.
We hiked down into the stream a bit and I immediately began top "read" the geology of the area. I used all the new found knowledge I gained with my new books. We found a spot and put on our new Walmart water boots and went into the sand. We panned about 5-10 pans and found nothing. Not even a flake. No black sand. Not even a sparkle. Ok, maybe we're doing it wrong. Back off to the prospecting store we went. This time I walked out with a 1/2 inch classifier, and a 20 mesh classifier and a few big glass vials (because I was going to have all three of them filled with gold the next time I come in.) I overheard a conversation between a customer and the guy working at the prospecting store about Lytle Creek. He said he's found gold there. (I started to listen more intently, while pretending to look through a book.) Said to go up Lytle Creek to Middle Fork Road and follow it till it dead ends into a parking lot.) Well this guy was looking at sluice boxes. I went over to take a look myself. I thought "holy crap" these tiny things made from "Home Depot" parts start at a hundred bucks? This was for some plastic green thing call a LeTrap. well I passed and figured hell, I'm a man, I can build one of these things bigger a better. Off to Home Depot I went. Huh, exactly a hundred bucks later I walked out with a sheet of plywood and some metal parts. I did however go back to the prospecting store and buy another 70 bucks worth of small corrugated vinyl and miners moss. Alright! Off to the man cave I go.
The final product came out pretty well if I do say so myself. It was 2 feet wide and 6 feet long. It weighed a bit more than a "**** ton." Time to call my brother.
We packed the truck this time with everything we "needed" to find gold. Two chairs, a folding table, our boots, a pair of shovels, enough water for 40 people(just in case), all three gold pans, 3 buckets, and our 6 foot Frankenstein monster of a sluice box. Yeah, we were gonna find some gold today! Off we went for the 1/2 hour trek to Lytle Creek. We stopped at the forest station to get that Adventure pass and arrived at our destination in about 40 minutes total. We even passed a fellow prospector. I took the opportunity to pull over, to go talk to him. He told me he was finding about 1/2 a gram of gold a day working the stream. He showed me his sluice box and thought (if this guy is finding 1/2 gram a day with that piece of crap then were gonna find a crap ton more!) He showed me a sluice box made from a rain gutter and some wires in it. He was also using a ribbed commercial carpet.) heheheh, I thought. "I've got miners moss." Now were we were parked there was two trails. One heading up, and one heading down. I decided to explore a little bit and take the trail that went up. After about 1/4 mile up that trail I had enough insight to discover that we were heading away from the water. Bad. So back down we went to the lower trail to the water. It was only about 2 hundred yards away from the truck so out came the gear. It took us about an hour to get all that crap down to the creek and set it up. It was time to put the 6 foot monster into the stream and start collecting the booty. Well, dumb ass me, the frigginn 6 foot monster sluice box with miner moss and all the goodies inside started to float on down the creek. Who would have thought about that? WOOD FLOATS! ok. I'm learning here. We weighed the huge ass box down with some rocks and positioned it nicely. The water was coming in at a nice rate. The angle was sweet and we were ready to start feeding the monster. My brother started to shovel the sand and rocks and stuff right into our bucket with the 1/2 inch classifier on it. I was shaking it and getting all the big stones out. The bucket would fill and we fed the monster. Worked like a charm! the rifles were working right, the miners moss was catching small heavy rocks, we were in the rich! I thought a few hours of this and we'd be coming home with gold. Well, we spent about 4-5 hours shoveling and decided it was time to clean the box. The only thing heavier than our 6 foot monster was our the same thing being made out of soaked plywood, and a **** ton of dirt in it. Proudly hauling that mess up to our table, we were very careful not to lose one pebble out of the sluice. We dumped the contents into our 35 gallon Walmat tub and started to pack up...because hauling a **** ton of pebbles seemed to be a good idea at the time. Several trips to the truck and back, and two tired brother later, we made it back home, unpacked, and started to go through our "mother lode." I classified the dirt down through our 20 mesh screen. We saw tons and ton of small sparkly things. We panned the crap out of all that. It took us hours! We spread out the bigger stuff on my work bench. We went through two 5 gallon buckets by hand. We didn't find a damn thing. No black sand, no nuggets, no flakes, no flour, not even a hint of gold. *sigh* off to the prospecting store I went. This time I walked out with a $150 dollar "Blue Bowl."
Throughout the next week, I rebuilt our monster sluice box. I bought some sheet metal and hardware this time. I'm going to find some "damn" gold. I don't care how much money I spend! The new box it easily a tenth of the weight. Still 4 foot long, but I made it a mere 18" wide this time. I also asked the guy at the prospecting store about a place in Azusa called East Fork along the San Gabriel River. He told me to stay away from there, it's a rough spot. um.... ok, I thought. I did a bit of research on East Fork. So many videos to watch and forums to read about the place. It took me about 4 days to read everything that was said about the place. It was time to pack up and go.
Called my brother, loaded the truck (with only half the crap we took last time.) Off we went for the hour ride to Azusa!
We stopped at the ranger station to buy an Adventure Pass. The old guy behind the counter asked what we might be doing up there. I told him we were going to go prospecting for gold. He chuckled and said, um no you can't it is illegal to prospect for gold up there. With a very polite rebuttal, I simply educated the guy that it was not illegal, I read all about the USFS bullshit, joined the PLP, read their website, and told him that the "withdrawal" he was referring to simply meant that I could not file for a commercial claim and I was able to exercise my RIGHT to access public lands and do whatever I see fit as long as it was in fact within the law. He smiled at me, handed me a plastic trash bag, and told me to have fun. I knew my reading would come in handy!
ok off the the end of East Fork Road. Saturday morning 8am we passed Cattle Canyon, and that little bridge, went a bit further, and found that the entire state of California had the same idea! Crap! There was no where to park! We ended up down the road a bit. I read somewhere on this site to look for an old burnt up tree on the left as I hike down from the parking lot. There was to be a shelf or something there that contained gold. Yep, couldn't find any sign of an old burnt tree, not even a black spot on the ground. Off we went across the road and over the ridge into a place called "Nugget Alley." We carried all our crap down the trails trying hard not to break our asses tripping on a rock or something. We found a nice little spot. This time, we were going to do things a little bit different. We decided that we were going to go in the middle of the river, turn over a crap ton of rocks and shovel all the sweet sweet gold goodness into out 5 gallon buckets and take them home for further processing. DOH! You guys probably already know how heavy dirt is in a 5 gallon bucket, but for some reason, I decided that all the gold we were about to find would be worth the effort. My poor brother and I made several trips back and forth to the truck lugging a **** ton of buckets filled to the top non-the-less, up that climb. Oh Christ I was sore. I thought I defiantly broke myself. We met an old guy that told us he had been out there camping for a solid week, with no shower, and he only got bout 2 grams of gold (from what he said.) I thought after all the damn dirt we just hauled, we got to have a crap ton more than that! Off back home we went. I was to damn tired and sore to work our spoils that day so I waited till the morning. I couldn't sleep at all. It was like a little kid the day before going to Disney Land or the night before Christmas. I couldn't wait to get all that gold out. Needless to say, I classified for hours. I panned for what seemed like forever. I ran my "paydirt" through the blue bowl at a speed that would have shot an astronaut into orbit. After all that, my wife comes out, trespasses in my man cave and asks me if we're rich yet. Welp, no. I didn't find anything. No nuggets, no flakes, no flour, nothing. This time I think I lost a little bit of my dignity as well. All this work, all the money, and all the time I've spent so far and all I've got to show for it is a front yard full of dirt and rocks from various places I've been to.
OK I needed some motivation. I needed to know that I'm not on crack and that 8lb baby Jesus is not laughing his ass off at me. I joined some web site with "Prospector Jess." I started to read more and more. I just know people are out there finding gold. Where the hell is it, I wondered?
Ok, I rebuilt the monster sluice box. I rebuilt it into a "high banker." I popped on a hopper and a stand. I cruised out to Harbor Freight. Spent more money on a 3000 gallon per hour submersible pump and a 200 watt power inverter. Got me a car battery and all the crap to find this illusive friggin gold. It is no longer a hobby. It is no longer an interest. It is no longer something I want to do for fun. I'm now on a mission. I will start sacrificing goats and eating turkey livers. I will go visit a psychic adviser, to find this yellow crap.
Called my brother this last weekend. We took out a minimal supply of crap we didn't need back out to East Fork. This time we were going to beat all the people. We left at 10pm Saturday night. Got there around 11:30 or so. Still a lot of cars in the parking lot, but plenty of room to park. It was really dark. We put on our jackets, took out flashlights and decided to do some reconnaissance of Heaton Flatts. It about 1/2 mile or so above the parking lot. Damn it was dark. We turned a corner and saw lights out in the distance. I thought who in their right mind is going to be out here? Well, we crept up on some of the nicest guys that were looking for gold as well. We talked to them for about an hour or so. We told them we were new at this and still have not found anything. They showed us where they were digging and the huge ass boulders they moved out of the way. They told us that they find about 1/2 gram or so a day. Well allrighty then, we are in good company. After talking to them, they advised us to go back to nugget alley and dig in the old river banks up against the rocks. Well hell, there were a lot of huge holes dug into those areas, and I thought it may be worth the effort. My brother and I took our flashlights, and took all our gear to a sweet looking spot to set up. It was 2am. It was really dark. We set up all the stuff, hooked up our "high banker" to the pump and the pump to the inverter and the inverter to the battery. Yeah we had a light to plug into it as well. The damn battery wasn't charged enough to turn the pump on, so I took a trip back up to the truck, stole the battery out of it (yes I don't care at this point) and set it up again. VIOLA! the pump screams to life and we're in business.
Long story, I didn't find anything again. We got to be doing something wrong. I'll keep looking. I'll keep you all posted on my adventures. Stay tuned!
 

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DesertNuggets

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Prospecting is lots of work. I prospected for months and months before finding even a flake of gold.

You will not get rich and most likely you will lose money. A good day is covering your gas money.

Good luck.
 

Oakview2

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If you don't make it as a prospector, there is a job somewhere for you as a writer. Keep putting the work in and the color will come.... Good health and good hunting..
 

oldbrundogg

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Bravo bravo , excellent post.

Sounds like maybe you came down with the YELLA fever. If your still having fun chasing keep going. Keep panning and researching, and panning and sluicing and asking questions and panning and panning. Oh I forgot and digging, and digging and digging.
I'm not familiar with the south of California but there are folks on here that are, seem like very nice people.
Check out Mr. Aurabbit, he seems willing to help.
But honestly if you have enjoyed yourself at all so far keep going. In my truly humble opinion, there is no closer place to all that is Holy, or Spiritual, or what ever you choose to call it than Being out there in nature nothing that man could ever create compares .
Good luck and happy hunting.
OBD
P.s please keep the posts going very enjoyable read.
 

divermz

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As someone already said above, you write one heckuva entertaining story. Keep it at and you will have some yellow in your pan.

Mike
 

Goodyguy

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Welcome to a lifetime of adventure :icon_thumright:

If it were easy we'd all be rich. Still I'm a little confused why you haven't found gold, could be something fundamental that you are overlooking, perhaps you should look into joining a local prospecting club before throwing any more cash at equipment, go on a club outing and get a hands on education from experienced prospectors.

It may be as simple as you not digging deep enough or you are not processing your material correctly. Club members are usually very happy to share their knowledge with newbies.

Go for the gold
GG~
 

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Thanks for sharing your adventure! :icon_thumleft:
Keep at it, at the rate your going, your bound to find gold soon.
 

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Elagantp

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The rest of the story

I know I cut it off quite abruptly at the end, it was getting late and I was trying to type with crossed tired eyes. So anyway at 3am in Nugget Alley we got everything set up and plugged in. The pump was washing the good stuff right into our high banker. My brother was shoveling from the bank and I was sitting at the machine feeding the monster. All of a sudden "POP!" the damn pvc pipe decided to become disconnected at the pump and the good part was aimed right at us! Needless to say, it was dark, it was cold and we both just took a complete soaking of nice freezing cold San Gabriel River Water to the face. We both had enough for the evening. We left the gear right where it was and headed back to the truck. My brother was smart enough to bring a change of cloths. I however ( I thought i was the smarter of the two) did not. :BangHead: Started up the truck to make the heater blast out hot air and went on a road trip up Shoemaker road. (short trip) My brother found a way to fall asleep, while I was still in a "gold induced" frenzy. I decided to play UNO on my smart phone until the break of dawn. At 5am the starting bell rang! We headed down the trail and cleaned up the mess. I disconnected the hopper and pump to convert this machine back into a sluice box. Into the river we went. Set it up, and had a great time! We dug and dug and dug. We fed the box all day long. We emptied it out at around 3 in the afternoon and packed up for the day. Now remember the part were we cut down on all the unnecessary crap? We still had a **** ton of stuff strapped to a dolly. We logged this menagerie up the ridge and back to the truck. Again, I think I broke my self. My poor brother was in no better shape. On the hour drive home, we both made a vow. We promised each other a very simple thing. If we broke this vow we would both kick one another square in the nuts. "IF IT DON'T FIT IN A BACKPACK, IT AIN'T GOIN!"
We got home and went our separate ways. I unloaded the truck and went right to work on our loot. I classified the material through our screens. I ran the blue bowl. I panned out the larger stuff. To my amazement, We got nothing. No Nuggets. No Flakes. No Flour. Just a broken spirit.
What I did find was a crap ton of black sand and a bunch of tiny red garnets. I just know that if I'm catching black sand and garnets, I'm doing it right. (or close to right) I separated the black sand into a bit of blonds and stuff. Panned it out and still nothing.
Just to let you all know. I will not give up. I am obsessed with finding this stuff. I will spend every waking minute reading, watching YouTube videos, and such. I got an email this morning from "Prospector Jess." He wants me to spend 7 bucks on a 20 minute video to show me how to find gold. He tells me there is a government report that will tell me the exact location of these gold finds. I'm going to spend the 7 bucks. I don't think it could hurt at this point. I'll let you know how it goes. Here is the link to what he wants me to buy. Hunting For Gold
I hope you all do well, I will start posting video of my adventures and techniques this week.
 

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Sooo.... Did you remember to take the battery back to the truck when you were soaked or did you have to go back and get it? :tongue3:





GG~
 

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goldog

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Sounds like you need to try drywashing.

Jus' kidding.

Thanks for the story and good luck!
 

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Elagantp

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Before my brother and i went out, I stole another battery from my Trans Am. Took it out there and that is the one that was not strong enough to run the pump. I exchanged it with the one from the truck just to get a huge dousing. I'm gonna watch that video right now :) Thank you for the insight.
 

KevinInColorado

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Sad thing is people spending money trying to invent stuff that already exists often end up spending more than retail in the end. They just lack the going-in expertise needed.

With time, access to expertise and more experience you will likely get all this gear working. For now, go buy a simple river sluice and run some buckets of classified material thru it. Do sample panning so you know there is gold in your material too!

As to sluice type, the LeTrap is ok but too flimsy for my tastes so I went with the Angus Mackirk instead...very similar drop riffles and tough as nails.

Find a local miner or club to get some on-river tips too. This will eliminate your initial failure/struggle.

Good luck and good gold!
 

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I agree Kevin, think the LeTrap is flimsy and went with Angus. I stumble and fall to much and know I'd break the LeTrap.
 

CT8620

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If you add the cross bar support to the LeTrap like everyone does, wood or metal, which also serves as a place to put a big rock to keep it from floating down the river and a good handle to pick it up with for cleanouts it works like a champ. And classifying is optional with it's design so you can run a crap ton of material through it. But regardless, the point being, El, is that with no real experience under your belt you thought you could reinvent the wheel. Those sluice boxes you saw might look cheap and like no big deal, but LOTS of time and research has been put into them to make them WORK, not necessarily LOOK pretty or high tech. ALSO, while you might get hassled by the FS at the East Fork for prospecting you better check on the legality of running a high banker there. My understanding is that NO motorized equipment is allowed period. Double check on that as you might be setting yourself up for a big fat fine or court appearance. And DO NOT dig directly under any trees, that's another fat fine potential. And if you plan on working at night, get some bear spray just in case. Good luck!
 

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Elagantp

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You know I heard about the motorized equipment thing up in East Fork. I thought only dredging was against "The Man's Wishes." The other prospectors we met up there mentioned a high banker was going to catch "The Man's" evil eye. I paid no attention to it. However, I will do some more research into exactly what the law states in that area and follow it to the letter! I've read stories about the USFS harassing prospectors up there. Before even going to East Fork I joined the PLP. I just got my "Challenge Card" and it is all ready to go. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hunting down a fight with the law, I just want to know my rights as an American Citizen and be well informed. We all live in the "Land of the Free, and the Home of the Brave." our RIGHTS are being chipped away bit by bit. I'm just saying, I'm willing to educate myself, and am prepared to go to court. (on the safe side, I like to be polite to authority)
Huh....Bear spray? Really? If I came across a bear, mountain lion, Bigfoot, or anything larger than a goldfish, I'm going to sit down and cry like a little girl! I can take "The Man." But nature? She's a scary *****! Do you really think I'm going to need bear spray? Won't they just run away if they see (or smell in fact) me? I'm not a pretty guy. I'm kinda scary looking (when I dont shave.) Thank you for the tip about the spray, Now I'm thinking about stuffing that inmy gear too.
 

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Elagantp this is a very enjoyable read! Sorry you didn't find any color but your redemption could come in getting this article published. It's entertaining and visual.
 

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Welcome to a lifetime of adventure :icon_thumright:

If it were easy we'd all be rich. Still I'm a little confused why you haven't found gold, could be something fundamental that you are overlooking, perhaps you should look into joining a local prospecting club before throwing any more cash at equipment, go on a club outing and get a hands on education from experienced prospectors.

It may be as simple as you not digging deep enough or you are not processing your material correctly. Club members are usually very happy to share their knowledge with newbies.

Go for the gold
GG~

DITTO!!!
 

Doitlaynstyle

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Fantastic story and what a fun thread! I am working on building my equipment, Have several Items in the mail and I plan to be out there looking for gold in less than 2 weeks. Provided everything gets here in time. The pans should be here tomorrow and honestly that's all I need to go find the glory hole.

If my experience is anything like yours I will be a happy man. I am looking forward to the search if nothing else. I have a LOT of gold bearing ground very near to me and If I cant find any gold I will be calling a couple of friends of mine that go out all the time. If that doesn't work the local miners club may be the ticket. I cant wait to hear more stories of your adventures. GOOD LUCK!!!!
 

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