Do i need to have a permit to carry visible side arm in Arizona & New Mexico?

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They will only charge you if you corner them and you give them no opportunity to escape. As others have said their eyesight is poor but they can smell you a 1/2 mile away and will disperse if the wind is at your back and your walking towards them. Jerry Day a retired AZGF Research Biologist spent his entire carrier studying the Javalina on the Three Bar. He has concluded that they live and die within 1 square mile of where they are born. The herds will never go over 32 Javalina's. Very seldom will a herd allow another javalina from a another herd join their herd. I once encountered a herd of 27 when Coues Deer hunting. They were on the same game trail as I and we were face to face within 5 feet of each other. I move upwards to another game trail and watched within 10 feet the entire herd pass below me.

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Auto correct is a pain... Just saying. Only reason I fired the shots was because I didn't have a way to get outta the wash those Javelina came up behind me in.
They were not inclined to leave when I tried to get'em to shoo away and there were young ones in the group. Bad juju in my opinion and my last option.
The only other reason I have for carrying out bush is so that I have a signal device. I carry a whistle as well.
 

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Auto correct is a pain... Just saying. Only reason I fired the shots was because I didn't have a way to get outta the wash those Javelina came up behind me in.
They were not inclined to leave when I tried to get'em to shoo away and there were young ones in the group. Bad juju in my opinion and my last option.
The only other reason I have for carrying out bush is so that I have a signal device. I carry a whistle as well.

They came up behind you cause you were quiet and the wind was at your backside. Most likely they did not see you. As I said above I stood face to face with the lead Javalina. He did not know what I was and he was not about to turn the entire herd around. Remember just because these are wild animals does not give anyone a right to shoot them. There is a season for them, Archery and Firearm seasons. Again they will not charge you unless you do not give them an escape route. They are protective of their young just like any other animal, but they are more afraid of you.
 

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Just to show you how tough these Javalina are. This poor Javalina was arrowed and has survived with a broken arrow embedded. I am happy to say the Javalina was rehabbed and survived.

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Tough? Their favorite food is Prickly Pear cactus. They eat it like it's candy. :laughing7:

Barry you should see what a herd of Javalina does to a golf course. They will turn the grass upside down to get to the root balls under the Mesquite trees. I watch a pack of 7 Javalina's destroy a Century (Agave) plant by digging under the plant to get to the root ball. The plant had already spike its center spike. They had dug 3 feet down and the plant finely toppled over. Photo is very large, click on it a few times.

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Never said I shot them AZ. I fired 3 rounds over them and scared them off. I know they are short sighted and have good ears. Just like dogs they don't like loud noise and just like most animals when with young I can reasonably expect them to be aggressive. When a critter don't get the message of a few hollers and a couple of rocks chucked at'em and they keep showing up~ yep bang bang bang. Works well on stray dogs too... but you don't see them bush.

Javelina are about my only concern. I've had them show up many times with little difficulty shoo'n them away. The group I am talking about just didn't get the message. I've a high regard for not killing unless I'm going to be eating and in that regard what rattlers I kill are coming home for dinner just like the jack rabbits, cotton tails, quail and doves. I'm not inclined to eat Javelina.

If your going to carry its best you also have a small game license in AZ. Especially if your going to cross State Land.
 

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I would be more concern of a Rattlesnake bit than a Javalina chasing me down or following me. Your chances of encountering Rattlesnake are much greater than having to deal with Javalina. Don't take a shower for a few weeks then go prospecting, problem solved.
 

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One final note on Javalina.....if you come upon them suddenly and scare them, they often run the direction they are facing towards. This is why many people think they are being charged by this weird animal. They are certainly rather near sighted, but can smell and hear very well. Dennis
 

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I would be more concern of a Rattlesnake bit than a Javalina chasing me down
or following me. Your chances of encountering Rattlesnake are much greater than having to deal with Javalina.

100% spot-on...them buzz-tails are far more serious of an issue than
those little porkers.

Don't take a shower for a few weeks then go prospecting, problem solved.

Yep...that'll work. The wife boots ya out of the house til ya decide to wash,
so you've got an open-ended pass to go prospecting...Damn good idea! :occasion14:
 

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Them pecary are a lot tastier than than the old buzz tails too. Used to hunt them as a kid between lake pleasant and castle hot springs. Mmm pig on a spit is hard tobeat.
 

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I guess some things are just beyond me.. Having spent a lot of time in the some pretty remote places. I honestly say and believe I have better chances of suffering injury to the terrain then I do from the wildlife..Hell I am willing to bet I stand better odds of winning the lottery then getting attacked by a bear or such..
But truthfully I honestly believe it really doesn't come down protection!! More ignorance.. NEEDLESS FEAR..
I feel safe in the woods the cities not so much.. I personally don't carry a gun in either places..
I do carry bear spray. And I have ever yet to use it.

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I never enter the desert or woods without gun, knife and lighter. I refuse to take a chance at being victomized especially if my kids are along.



I don't even know what to think from that statement..

Mother Nature nor it's critters can Victimize anything.. Are you speaking of people?

It seems to me if people were really concerned about their well being and their families they would be taking steps to "ACTUALLY PROTECT THEM" Not for the rarest of events but the common.. May I suggest First aid Training/ Wilderness survival and a whole slew of other things that one can better ensure the safety of yourselves and family. And by far more effective results then a gun would ever bring you..

Also let me point out that their are multiple non lethal weapons one can use to stop man and beast.. Why neglect these Items? Maybe you think they are not effective.. Well if your goal is to kill something You are absolutely right.. but if your goal is safety then it would seem these would be very pratical and often less heavy.
 

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It seems to me if people were really concerned about their well being and their families they would be taking steps to "ACTUALLY PROTECT THEM" Not for the rarest of events but the common.. May I suggest First aid Training/ Wilderness survival and a whole slew of other things that one can better ensure the safety of yourselves and family. And by far more effective results then a gun would ever bring you..

Also let me point out that their are multiple non lethal weapons one can use to stop man and beast.. Why neglect these Items? Maybe you think they are not effective.. Well if your goal is to kill something You are absolutely right.. but if your goal is safety then it would seem these would be very pratical and often less heavy.

The only thing thats going to stop a determined man with a gun is another determined man with a gun.Knowing basic first aid is common sense and knowing and having survival skills is also,if heading out into no where.Common sense also says bring a weapon for self defense.A gun can feed you when all else fails to do so.
 

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So many get in trouble as they fail to understand that nature is indifferent.
 

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Must be in holster or some container while in car. It can be exposed.
 

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I guess some things are just beyond me.. Having spent a lot of time in the some pretty remote places. I honestly say and believe I have better chances of suffering injury to the terrain then I do from the wildlife..Hell I am willing to bet I stand better odds of winning the lottery then getting attacked by a bear or such..
But truthfully I honestly believe it really doesn't come down protection!! More ignorance.. NEEDLESS FEAR..
I feel safe in the woods the cities not so much.. I personally don't carry a gun in either places..
I do carry bear spray. And I have ever yet to use it.

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I never enter the desert or woods without gun, knife and lighter. I refuse to take a chance at being victomized especially if my kids are along.



I don't even know what to think from that statement..

Mother Nature nor it's critters can Victimize anything.. Are you speaking of people?

It seems to me if people were really concerned about their well being and their families they would be taking steps to "ACTUALLY PROTECT THEM" Not for the rarest of events but the common.. May I suggest First aid Training/ Wilderness survival and a whole slew of other things that one can better ensure the safety of yourselves and family. And by far more effective results then a gun would ever bring you..

Also let me point out that their are multiple non lethal weapons one can use to stop man and beast.. Why neglect these Items? Maybe you think they are not effective.. Well if your goal is to kill something You are absolutely right.. but if your goal is safety then it would seem these would be very pratical and often less heavy.
I always carry when in the wilderness, I have been in some pretty remote areas and many times had my wife with me.

It is my job to protect my wife 24\7.... There are wild animals in the wilderness and some of them walk on 2 legs.
 

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It seems to me if people were really concerned about their well being and their families they would be taking steps to protect them from the common emergencies. Not for the rarest of events but the common.. May I suggest First aid Training/ Wilderness survival and a whole slew of other things that one can better ensure the safety of yourselves and family. And by far more effective results then a gun would ever bring you to cure the most common emergencies.

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I agree with this part of your statement Marshall. The little bit I changed is in color.
 

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