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    Do i need to have a permit to carry visible side arm in Arizona & New Mexico?

    Will be calling for clarification, but I thought that was our 2nd amendment right! I know u have to have a conceal & carry if concealed, but it will be holstered. Also I know that u can't discharge your weapon in BLM areas or be arrested. Concerned about mountain cats, & black bears.
    Thanks for any info

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold hound View Post
    Will be calling for clarification, but I thought that was our 2nd amendment right! I know u have to have a conceal & carry if concealed, but it will be holstered. Also I know that u can't discharge your weapon in BLM areas or be arrested. Concerned about mountain cats, & black bears.
    Thanks for any info
    Open is ok in AZ with some exceptions. Rattlers are a much bigger concern than bears and cats. Be sure to know the regs and do not depend on forum info. :-)
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    Open and concealed carry are legal in Arizona without any permits or registration required.

    There are no restrictions on "shooting in BLM areas" but there are State laws against shooting within 1/4 mile of an occupied structure, watering tank or highway. It is also against the law to shoot mountain cats, & black bears without a valid tag.

    There have been 9 people killed by mountain lions in the last 100 years in the United States. You have a much greater chance of being struck by lightning on a clear day than being attacked by a mountain lion.

    If you have a fear of black bears don't carry food in your pockets, don't bring food in your tent and don't play with their cubs and you will be fine.

    Bring your pistol and carry it concealed or exposed - no one will care in Arizona but please don't kill the wildlife unless you are hunting.
    Last edited by Clay Diggins; Aug 26, 2014 at 01:14 AM.

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    Trust me, my intent isn't to go target practicing on wildlife. If by some off chance we were to run into a bear... We back out of area slowly without turning our backs to it. I know they will leave the area if they hear us, that they usually only attack if u sneak up on them and startle them or they have cubs. I just want to be able to protect myself if necessary. Anyways, thanks for the info.

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    It's the two legged variety of "wild life" that gives me pause. You just never know anymore. Granted, most predators prey on folks in areas of higher population, but we carry hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of equipment, and sometimes we actually find gold. Better safe than sorry...and when it comes to going to jail for discharging a firearm, I would rather face charges than end up in the bone orchard, whether it be by rattler or crook.
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    Weapons laws can be found for AZ and NM online~ as are most states.

    I would not worry much about the wild life. In all my years bush in AZ I've never had to shot a snake and never had any problems with bears or cats. You can walk around and away from snakes and you'll be lucky to see a bear or cat. I've only ever had to fire my gun once and that was to scare off a pack of javelin. Javelin have poor eyesight and can be aggressive but they are also curious and not to be messed with if a pack comes sniffing around. Best to walk away from problems if you can.
    Worried about snakes~ take a 22 and get some snake shoot. Be more worried about shaking your boots out at camp in the morning as its a fact scorpions will take up residence in them, centipedes too. Spiders can be brushed out of camp.

    Worries of the two leg variety: Having an open weapon does not guarantee people will leave you alone. If working within 40 miles of the boarder... In AZ that's anywhere south of I-10.... expect to meet Boarder Patrol. Generally they are ok but like any agency they prefer to have the guns... not you. Run into desert walkers.. aka illegals... just walk away or around.
    My thoughts.
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    In any event , be continually aware of your surroundings so that you wont be surprised when someone / something is in your face and startels you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDancer View Post
    ... I've only ever had to fire my gun once and that was to scare off a pack of javelin. Javelin have poor eyesight and can be aggressive but they are also curious and not to be messed with if a pack comes sniffing around.
    What are 'javelin'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Winter View Post
    What are 'javelin'?
    It's actually javelinas, members of the pig family, also known as peccaries

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    Javelinas are not pigs, they are their own species. They travel in small family groups throughout the southwestern deserts. They have very poor vision but can move surprisingly quickly. The tusked males can be dangerous if cornered. They are good eating as long as you are careful of their scent glands when dressing them.

    We hunted them from horseback in West Texas and New Mexico when I was young. I have seen a large (55 pound) male hamstring a horse when he was cornered and panicked. The javelina was good eating after a slow cook on a spit - the horse not so much.

    Much like bears it is unwise to mess with them unless you are hunting them. Don't mess with their food or their young and don't harass them and they will do their best to avoid humans.
    Last edited by Clay Diggins; Aug 26, 2014 at 12:50 PM.

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    Even though I'm a strong believer in the right of American citizens
    to keep and bear arms, and although spent considerable time in
    both, I never felt a need to carry a weapon when out in the forests
    or desert.

    First rule is to pay attention to your surroundings. Snakes can show
    up in the strangest places, so always be on alert. If ya see one, then
    walk around it..all it's doing is hanging out waiting for a meal of mouse
    or other small critter to come by. Don't molest it's dinner time by
    killing it.

    Cougar's will almost always back down and run if you appear threatening
    to them.

    If it's more than an hour past sunrise, or an hour before sunset
    the odds of you even seeing a bear or cougar are very small. If you're
    in the woods, then pay attention to your surroundings.

    If you have -0- experience in that kind of country, then bring along
    someone who does.

    Rule #1: Don't act like prey and ya won't be prey.
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    Thanks, Guys! All is explained ...

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    John, Javelina generally run in packs, so if you see one
    then know there's more in the area. If you're in a wash
    and see them coming down it, then get out and move
    downwind of them. They can't see well at all, but have
    great noses.

    Your only real concern is if they feel threatened, as they'll
    all attack at once, but that's not gonna ever happen if you
    give them their space. If you see their tracks or poop laying
    around, then just be watchful, and know they aren't out to
    get you.
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    Watch out in New Mexico with firearms. I lived in Arizona and posses a South Dakota concealed permit. My South Dakota Permit is good in quite a few States,
    New Mexico and Nevada are two I States I travel through where I am probably Illegal. Arizona is no problem, however If someone has a felony record they could have a serious problem in Arizona, or any other State for that matter. A Utah Concealed Permit is worth having as they are recognized in dozens of States.

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    I never enter the desert or woods without gun, knife and lighter. I refuse to take a chance at being victomized especially if my kids are along.
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