Here is your chance to help fight SB 637

jog

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Greetings everyone, please forward this to all of your contacts and lets stop this bill.

We are sending this emergency call to action on SB637, another layer of government and a scheme by those in Sacramento to require we purchase a permit (and more regulation) for pollution discharge for suction dredging from the CA Water Board. The issue on "pollutant discharge" has already been decided by the Supreme Court and SB637 is a way for the opposition to small mining in CA to ignore that.

We won the case in San Bernadino, so they immediately sit down with the environmental groups (Sierra Fund) and try and pass another scheme to stop us.

As you know, many of us have been going to Sacramento and testifying against this ridiculous bill. We applaud and thank those who have also gone to Sacramento and testified, or made their presence known but we need you to contact your Assembly person and tell them NO, do not vote on this bill.

Don't just read this, do something, click on the link below, find your Assembly person and contact them. Then send this email to everyone you can and tell them how important it is we stand up to this. If you want to be a small miner, pan in a creek, run a dredge or simply dig for gold, MAKE THE CALL. Sitting there doing nothing allows them to win.

Dale Meyer and Chris Giorgi have created a website that make it very, very easy to oppose this bill. Simply go to: http://www.stopsb637.org/ click on "California State Assembly Contacts" if you do not know who your assembly person is, and make the call or write a letter.

We cannot do this by ourselves folks, we need your help. Click on the link, make the call or write a letter. We cannot make this any easier.

If you do not make the call to oppose this bill, do not complain when mining is gone.



Mr. Shannon Poe
President, AMRA


 

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theseeker

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Done!! The http://www.stopsb637.org/ website is a great informative site that consolidates a lot of relevant information in one place. Much thanks to Dale Myer for putting that site together!!!! Sent the link to 11th District Assemblyman Jim Frazier so he could educate himself on the bill.
 

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GoldpannerDave

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Hi Mr. Poe; This is BARKER. I live in Boston. I just signed your Petition ok. We are fighting a similar Bill here to ban detecting on all MA DCR controlled beaches. This includes beaches I've been searching for 45 years. It's just plain RIDICULOUS. They say we are damaging the environment and removing historical artifacts. BS. We are fighting this tooth and nail. Every time we beat their Bills they come up with some other BS angle to Enforce their Will upon the People. They have rescinded their latest Bill due to the amount of heat they got and are still getting. This is nothing more than the Governments attempts to Regulate the People. This will be fought as well. This Boston. Home of the Boston TeaParty and Old Ironsides. "No Taxation without Representation" and We are tough as nails.
I wish you the best. I'll help if I can ok. PEACE:RONB :leprechaun-hat:
 

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DaleMyer

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We'll hopefully be packing the assembly committee meeting this coming Wednesday (8/19/2015) once again to object to the unnecessary "discharge permits" for suction dredges that will be required by SB637. Sadly the bill was amended after the comment period before the last hearing and the author (cough, cough) Senator Allen added a few things under what defines a dredge. They're now including highbankers and other mechanized mining equipment which can be widely interpreted. In case you not up to speed on all this, if our mining equipment is below the high water mark, dredge, sluice, pan, etc., the material that comes out is called incidental fallback. Requiring a pollution discharge permit, when we add nothing to the water (and hopefully remove heavy metals) is like requiring a smog permit for a bicycle. If the bill passes this last committee, it will head for a floor vote during early September. If you live in CA, please use the links on stopsb637.org to let your state assembly member and state senator your objection to this thinly veiled attack on the small scale miner, written (cough, cough) by a state senator from Orange County that has ZERO federal mining clams in his district. Thanks!

Dale Myer
East Bay Prospectors
 

2cmorau

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spend five minutes protesting these bills, SB637 and SB209 are going before the Assembly Appropriations committee this Wednesday in room 4202, starting at 0800.
https://ad05.assemblygop.com/resources
>>Alpine County
>>Amador County
>>Calaveras County
>>El Dorado County
>>Madera County
>>Mariposa County
>>Mono County
>>Placer County
>>Tuolumne County
clik on the county and send a response

winners links good info for the uninformed antimining , anti revenue PC crowd

science not hype...
Effects of Small-Scale Gold Dredging on Arsenic, Copper, Lead, and Zinc Concentrations in the Similkameen River
by Johnson, A. and M. Peterschmidt , 2005 Washington State Department of Ecology
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publicat...s/0503007.html
and Quality assurance of the testing
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publicat...s/0403108.html
 

winners58

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only new or increased activates are are considered to degrade water quality.
because small scale in-stream mining has been going on for 50 years it is part of the baseline. it should be grandfathered in.
the water board is supposed to work with DFG and provide 401 certification, the army corp of engineers
considers small scale suction dredging a deminus activity, and offers a nationwide general permit,
the state adds some best management practices, to minimize adverse impacts, how hard can it be.
well they haven't since it expired in 2000 yes... 15 years ago, they asked for comments in 2007
you can see them at the bottom of this page, 401 cert. State Water Resources Control Board
I think a lot of the comments they just changed the date and resubmitted them for SB637 and the court cases.
SB637 is not going to do anything more than they are not doing now, just give us a permit and let us get back to mining.
 

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Goldwasher

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Did you miss the part where Allen and Izzy said that there would have to be E.i.rs before any permits would be issued?
 

fowledup

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The rights and wrongs of what they can and can't do are irrelevant, it will all have to be argued in court like everything else. In the meantime they will put another moratorium in place on whats left of our methods until the matter can be settled. Folks don't seem to be grasping what is really happening- "They can't do that it's not; right, against the law, unconstitutional, immoral, etc, etc etc!" ......and yet they do it, again and again! If it goes the way they plan (which it has so far) this time next year what color pan or whose sluice catches the fine gold won't mean chit!
 

Clay Diggins

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only new or increased activates are are considered to degrade water quality.
because small scale in-stream mining has been going on for 50 years it is part of the baseline. it should be grandfathered in.
the water board is supposed to work with DFG and provide 401 certification, the army corp of engineers
considers small scale suction dredging a deminus activity, and offers a nationwide general permit,
the state adds some best management practices, to minimize adverse impacts, how hard can it be.
well they haven't since it expired in 2000 yes... 15 years ago, they asked for comments in 2007
you can see them at the bottom of this page, 401 cert. State Water Resources Control Board
I think a lot of the comments they just changed the date and resubmitted them for SB637 and the court cases.
SB637 is not going to do anything more than they are not doing now, just give us a permit and let us get back to mining.

Instream activities are not part of a "baseline". Instream activities are neither deminimus nor subject to a 401 permit.

The 401 permits don't apply to instream dredging. The Clean Water Act does not apply to instream activities. The Supreme Court has been trying to get that simple message through to the EPA since 2000. The EPA continues to violate the law and multiple Supreme Court rulings with these regulations.

If you believe the EPA can overrule the Supreme Court you might want to apply for a permit. Or take an elementary course in civics. :BangHead:

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