12 ounces with a small keene dredge in norway,hmm..i have a very good friend with norway citicenship so i look in the net for info and find this;http://norden.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:842595/FULLTEXT01.pdf .....i,ve only read the chapter about norway a bit and my head aches,partly because english is not my motherlanguage but then;sustainable mining,precautionary principle ,etc.etc. The whole agenda 21 hypocrisy.. Does this apply for dredgers?
thanks,Emilio
OJ do you have any evidence for your claims that Norwegian Government Ministers are corruptly profiting from taxation or other fees levied on the 3 existing metals mining operations in Norway - or on any others for that matter?
P.S. I have worked in Norway and overseas with Scandinavian compaines for more than a decade. I speak pretty fluent Norwegian and my wife of 36 years is Norwegian.
I dislike loose talk about Norwegian public financial corruption. It is practically unknown and, when it comes to light, no sports cars for the perpetrators.
So, please advise me of your sources for your very surprising allegations.
P.S. On the other hand, I'd love to know which Norwegian river yielded your heavy pans with the dredge!
no hard feelings, but
"Ja vi elsker dette landet, som det stiger frem, furet værbitt over havet, med det tusen hjem..." ...
Opening line from Norwegian national anthem ... 'Yes we love this land - as it juts forth - wooded, weather beaten.. Against the sea.. With our thousand homes..."
I Have a "soft spot" for the country which has been so good to me - sort of my second home.
with respect, but with a caution!
Yes we do have evidence; we meaning the the agency I work for, hence the comment about Norse Minister in jail.
PS, I do not giveashit what language you speak, what criminals you support based on nationalistic views, those are your personal feelings and have nothing to do with my profession.
Since it is your second home, you would know very well where the best gold for the nation is. For me it is just another place to get gold and my property is small.
Perhaps instead of worrying about issues that do not pertain to you at all and trying to show yourass like some big man. But hey, if speaking up for criminals is your thing then so beit.
So - the minute you are asked a polite question about the allegations you have made - you respond with scorn and insult.
i just read a few more of your posts and it's now clear to me that further exchanges with you will only result in your flinging more mud.
I won't play those games.
pretty rude
I don't know how much of it is specifically due to GOV/EPA. I don't think there would be much difficulty from them if they weren't getting slammed by the eco-nuts. So why did the GOV/EPA side with them rather than miners? Simple - who is supplying more money? The eco-nuts or the miners?I just want to know why do the ******* GOV/EPA folks make it so difficult for the little guys to look for gold ?
Norway is like fifth to last for "corruption" Norway Corruption Rank | 1995-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast. Commercial gold miniing hasn't really been a viable industry in Noray since the 1990's ith metals mining on a continual decline http://www.ngu.no/sites/default/files/Gull_focus10.pdf http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/country/2012/myb3-2012-no.pdf Norway doesn't even make the list Sweden (third least corrupt) and Finland(was the least corrupt for a long time) have small production. Interactive gold mining map | World Gold Council.
The rent for resource set up as been in place since the 1970's and has not killed exploration. It is in place to help maintain a sight if it is abandoned by the company developing the resource. There is no readilly available info on people in the government getting rich because of the 33% rent.
There is this Biggest Corruption Trial in Norway Continues - The Nordic Page - Economy
Considering Rick's work in the country and with Scandanavian outfits he may just have great insight and asked a valid question to you biased comment, but, he was actually polite. You were not and your comment broke several forum rules. He stated that he hadn't heard of these issue in a form you made them sound like Nordic countries and their mining ministries exist to rip companies off. Yet, there is ample evidence otherwise.
He did not deserve your comments you called his wife a "something"
Input from people who prospect all over the world is great and this is a cool thread. It was better before you brought in the insults and cussing at members.
Do you have links to the info about these ministers using the rent for resource funds to buy fancy cars and live high on the hog? I'm sure many here would like to read about it I can't find any info. Other than the one I linked and that sounds like a bribe for access to oil.
Links, I guess you did not read my post. It is experience and paperwork.
Had this person had any experience in gold prospecting in any Scandinavian nation then he would have know the answers to his rude questions. Being married to someone and having worked in another industry does not mean the person have any insight what so ever.
Besides, only a decade, no experience to speak of and no claims or properties to speak of.
As for other links in past prosecutions, sure feel free to visit the Interpol website and download as many case reports as you wish pertaining to the subject, then if that is not enough for you try the Rand Corp.
I added my thoughts as to why I figured it was easier to mine and prospect in the US based on my own experiences in prospecting in many nations and as an investigator for the largest international police organization in the world. So when someone comes on to derail a topic in such a rude manner as the person often does on some many other topics I will speak up; especially if it has nothing to do with the topic at all and just some feelings towards a nation.
Reading your post really means nothing. Just because you say you know something doesn't mean you actually do. You saying you do the things you do, does not mean that you do them or have experienced them. I posted links to accepted known info and reports to add actual info to the conversation.
I am not saying you don't have the experience. Just that anyone can say they do. Resource development in the countries mentioned is not "down" because of corruption, it is more related to diminishing resource( in metals mining especially)
The readers of this thread would love to read the stories about the situations you know of. It would back up how most of them feel that all government is corrupt and that the elites have special cutlery made for eating other peoples pie while charging them for the honor of getting to share their pie.
I believe the intent of clays thread is to show the Irony of the fact that the U.S.A is the best place to run a mine for the miners and the planet. Yet, the general consensus of the small scale community is the exact opposite.
People reading these threads benefit greatly when people with real world experience share direct information. I often wonder why some tout their connections and experience, chaste others yet remain a vague avatar. It's a shame to see someone go instantly to insults and character degradation.In response to someone. Simply for mentioning their experience in the countries mentioned. Relating that they have spent a good amount of time there and are generally unaware of the graft mentioned.
Ricks questions were not rude. That for some reason is your perception. It sounds like you two have had other conversations. It's too bad the immaturity was brought here.
lol. doubt it... Keeping in mind I have shaken hands with and spoken on the phone with many tnet members. My existence and who I say I am and what I do is actually verifiable. The same thing cannot be said for several others here who like to insult members and start crap.I really have to wonder if you are one of the many other usernames I keep getting PM's about.
Oh well, you keep beating that dead horse if you like; bet I had 30 PM's already on all the usernames, I guess you are one of them since you keep going on about nothing at all.
If you and however many usernames find Norway so important, then start a thread for it. Make sure you bring all your usernames as well.
Sick people.
lol. doubt it... Keeping in mind I have shaken hands with and spoken on the phone with many tnet members. My existence and who I say I am and what I do is actually verifiable. The same thing cannot be said for several others here who like to insult members and start crap.