Skirting the law, just a 'for fun' question....

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So if you were in an area that forbids any form of wheeled vehicle. How well do you think it would fly to have a tracked vehicle? Do you think they would try and count the gear wheels as wheels? What if you used sprockets?

realistically I accept that I am probably relegated to skids at best. Since even a hot air balloon probably qualifies as an aircraft.

I may just literally end up with a string of donkey's by the end of it.....
 

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Guy I know and his Brother in Law got bit by the Gold Bug(Richard Scarry?) a while back, and they wanted to get into some gnarly places..

He got 2 mules for free, and then bought a cheap POS horse trailer..

Cheaper than a 4 wheeler. If it breaks down you can shoot it and the coyotes will eat it.
If the hill is too steep, you get off and it goes up the hill by itself, no pushing..
It doesn't get stuck..
Quiet, unless you feed it a bean burrito.

Of course you have to feed and water it, but nobody is going to think you are crazy talking to your mule... Talking
to your 4 wheeler, you look a little crazy.

Trying to be "clever" (and I understand that) by using tracks instead of wheels, I think that might bite you in the ass...
 

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If you look up the definition of a vehicle, track systems are included. Wheels are needed to support the tracks.
 

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Just get a tank! Nobody's going to argue when you slew the gun! :tongue3:

Works for flattening little white pickups, and making new roads too!
 

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Guy I know and his Brother in Law got bit by the Gold Bug(Richard Scarry?) a while back, and they wanted to get into some gnarly places..

He got 2 mules for free, and then bought a cheap POS horse trailer..

Cheaper than a 4 wheeler. If it breaks down you can shoot it and the coyotes will eat it.
If the hill is too steep, you get off and it goes up the hill by itself, no pushing..
It doesn't get stuck..
Quiet, unless you feed it a bean burrito.

Of course you have to feed and water it, but nobody is going to think you are crazy talking to your mule... Talking
to your 4 wheeler, you look a little crazy.

Trying to be "clever" (and I understand that) by using tracks instead of wheels, I think that might bite you in the ass...

Yeah, Ive already got horse or two wondering around here and I expect my lady friend would let me borrow her horse trailer if I asked real nice. I don't really know much about mules. Fellah in Idaho told me they are a 4 wheel drive horse.
 

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If you look up the definition of a vehicle, track systems are included. Wheels are needed to support the tracks.

The Theoretical question is "wheeled vehicle". If the rule simply said no vehicles then all would be prohibited. A tracked vehicle is not a wheeled vehicle...let 'er rip
 

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How about a llama? Not as stubborn as a mule, they pack loads really well, and love to go for walks.
 

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Mules,
I think I must have some Mule blood in me somewhere but - I was coming out on a rough, steep trail and this fella and a helper with a string of mules was coming in, the animals were loaded though I'd guess the Leader had them loaded reasonably and down the trail they went, a bit of skidding and they must have made it past a really bad steep mini drop off in the trail so yeah, Mules can work but they do kick up a LOT of Dust! Then in the off season there is keeping them fed, clean, medicated/doctored, shod and all the other good stuff. There is no easy solution but best of success with whatever you end up with...............63bkpkr
 

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Your the best possible mode of transportation ever Herb. I've seen the pics of your "mini dropoff" and by god not even a mule would attempt that harrowing feat. Yep your feet have been the best a the best for many years and hope you can finally get back to the hills you covet sooooooooooooooo much-tons a au 2 u 2-John
 

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Horses/mules have been regarded as vehicles [ not wheeled of course]. I know of guys getting DUIs for "operating" a horse while under the influence.
 

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I know of guys getting DUIs for "operating" a horse while under the influence.
Seriously? That's insane! I'm not a drinker and am against drunkenness, but geez!

In Minnesota, I've seen LOTS of folks driving their lawn mowers and even farm tractors to and from the bar. I promise you, a 15,000 pound tractor can do a LOT more damage than a horse!
 

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Horses/mules have been regarded as vehicles [ not wheeled of course]. I know of guys getting DUIs for "operating" a horse while under the influence.

I dont agree with this but I guess it depends on how much the horse had drank...8-)
 

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Nh. wheeled vehicle is a tire or track that runs on bare ground. Add snow and it's game on! Not on bare ground that's how we run our atvs in the winter on snow mobile trails. And in Nh you can get a DWI on a bicycle seen it! The guy hit a parked car! LOL!
 

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Guy I know and his Brother in Law got bit by the Gold Bug(Richard Scarry?) a while back, and they wanted to get into some gnarly places..

He got 2 mules for free, and then bought a cheap POS horse trailer..

Cheaper than a 4 wheeler. If it breaks down you can shoot it and the coyotes will eat it.
If the hill is too steep, you get off and it goes up the hill by itself, no pushing..
It doesn't get stuck..
Quiet, unless you feed it a bean burrito.

Of course you have to feed and water it, but nobody is going to think you are crazy talking to your mule... Talking
to your 4 wheeler, you look a little crazy.

Trying to be "clever" (and I understand that) by using tracks instead of wheels, I think that might bite you in the ass...

they are not called hay burners for nothing, bale a week at 20 bucks a bale, gets pricey. damn thing is supposed to key on deer too, but failed to do so. 3hrs into a walk and never set a hand on the reins, patted on the neck and said "good pony" and BOOF! there go 8-10 deer i never saw, damn horse!!!!
 

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How about a llama? Not as stubborn as a mule, they pack loads really well, and love to go for walks.
I understand llamas to be fairly load and range limited. Max weight is only 75 lbs and a show I watched about people in the Andes said they have two sets because they only pack half a day on one string and then shift the load to the fresh animals. They also said that while 75 was max they prefer 50 lb loads as not to stress the animals.
 

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Horses/mules have been regarded as vehicles [ not wheeled of course]. I know of guys getting DUIs for "operating" a horse while under the influence.

Horses are allowed in wilderness and motorless areas. Though there are a pile of regulations on how you keep them and what feed is allowed also. Certified weed free hay is quite the racket. I know a guy who does hay and he sells weed free certified hay. Both regular and 'weed free' are from the same field. Just one has the approval stamp and cost about 25% more.
 

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