Prepping for AK
Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 26
Like Tree48Likes

Thread: Prepping for AK

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #1
    us
    Apr 2015
    Oshkosh, WI
    996
    1432 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Prepping for AK

    I've been a little scarce around here lately, but have been busy prepping for the trip next summer. I've got the deployment boxes built for the A22 cargo bags. The boxes are built for 4 box pallets of 40x48x48". We had the same boxes and cargo system when I was in the Guard. We will have 2 pallets of the boxes, and a 10' box for all the pipe and other long items that can't fit in the palletized boxes. I don't like the idea of having to bring wood fence posts along, but the nearest place to get any wood will be marching 4 miles down to the treeline, cut the wood where the salmon and bears are, and drag it back up the mountain.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3135.JPG 
Views:	69 
Size:	149.1 KB 
ID:	1592713

    For flying the boxes, every box will need to be weighed, so that nothing goes above 2000lbs per pallet. This is a 400lb postal scale. We'll need it for the trip back as well. Empty the boxes weigh in at 65 - 69lbs.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3137.JPG 
Views:	71 
Size:	139.1 KB 
ID:	1592714

    Here's the kitchen box partially packed. Duel fuel stove, 2 Aquatainers, 2 Vario water filters and spares, pots, paper towels, dinnerware, first aid kits, ect.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3134.JPG 
Views:	76 
Size:	145.4 KB 
ID:	1592715

    There's still enough room for 2 GGT Explorers in here!
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3133.JPG 
Views:	70 
Size:	132.8 KB 
ID:	1592716

    I'll need to get another case for the radios and solar panel system adapters. We'll have 150W of solar for power, and will be able to run everything from it.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3136.JPG 
Views:	69 
Size:	219.7 KB 
ID:	1592717

    And for the bears. 2 AKM's for personal defense, and a 3 Joule solar fence charger for the camp perimeter.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMG_3140.JPG 
Views:	73 
Size:	156.8 KB 
ID:	1592718

  2. #2
    us
    Aug 2004
    Olympia WA
    Minelab Xterra 70, Minelab SD 2200d, 2.5", 3", 4"and several Keene 5" production dredges, Knelson Centrifuge, Gold screw automatic panner
    857
    1868 times
    Prospecting
    The AKM's are inappropriate for large predator control. The ammo available is military, FMJ and not designed to expand or fragment. It is kinda low power and large and heavy which makes it hard to carry while working. You would be far better off with a .44 mag.
    The electric fence is a great idea. It will make a lot of noise to warn you when the bears walk right thru it

  3. #3
    RTR
    RTR is offline
    Charter Member
    us
    Roger

    Nov 2017
    Smith Mt. Lake Va.
    Teknetics Liberator Falcon MD-20 *********** Blue Bowl Angus MacKirk sluice Miller Table
    3,232
    11643 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Hey Capt...What area of AK are you headed ?

  4. #4
    us
    Apr 2015
    Oshkosh, WI
    996
    1432 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaro View Post
    The AKM's are inappropriate for large predator control. The ammo available is military, FMJ and not designed to expand or fragment. It is kinda low power and large and heavy which makes it hard to carry while working. You would be far better off with a .44 mag.
    The electric fence is a great idea. It will make a lot of noise to warn you when the bears walk right thru it
    I will have 8M3 fragmenting hollow points. Most poached elephants and rinos are killed with the AK and FMJ.


    The electric fences actually work quite well on bears. The charger is rated for bear control. Mom's horse pushed me into a fence ran by this same charger, and the jolt had my arm numb for half an hour.

  5. #5
    us
    Jul 2015
    Denver, CO
    55
    79 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    That round only penetrated 14” of gel. That is inadequate for bear protection. .308 or 7.62x51 is minimum rifle cartridge size for large NA game. I would get a .44 mag revolver for the most portable solution. Cheapest solution is used 12g shotgun loaded with slugs. They kill large African game with AK’s by putting a whole magazine into the animal and waiting for it to die. A charging bear shot by 7.62x39 will have plenty of time to maul you. If you take the AK use FMJ. You want penetration of the vitals not expansion
    Last edited by Skunked68w; May 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM.
    Sockeye1730 likes this.

  6. #6
    us
    Jul 2015
    Denver, CO
    55
    79 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    My hog hunting buddies stopped using AK’s because they couldn’t get clean kills on large hogs with it.
    KevinInColorado likes this.

  7. #7
    us
    Apr 2015
    Oshkosh, WI
    996
    1432 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by RTR View Post
    Hey Capt...What area of AK are you headed ?
    We're going to the other side of the mountain NE of the Independence Mine.
    RTR likes this.

  8. #8
    us
    Apr 2015
    Oshkosh, WI
    996
    1432 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Skunked68w View Post
    That round only penetrated 14” of gel. That is inadequate for bear protection. .308 or 7.62x51 is minimum rifle cartridge size for large NA game. I would get a .44 mag revolver for the most portable solution. Cheapest solution is used 12g shotgun loaded with slugs. They kill large African game with AK’s by putting a whole magazine into the animal and waiting for it to die. A charging bear shot by 7.62x39 will have plenty of time to maul you. If you take the AK use FMJ. You want penetration of the vitals not expansion
    No, that's exactly what you need! Keeping the bullet in the animal transfers maximum energy to target. Mass damage is what's going to stop the bear, not over penetration. The damage with 8M3 is great enough that a limb shot would immobilize that body part. The 7.62x39 also has the same power as the .44 magnum at 1600 ftlbs. And I am not looking at a 1 shot kill on an attacking bear, I'm looking at dumping the entire magazine into it until it drops. And if I had full auto, I'd use it!
    Reed Lukens likes this.

  9. #9
    us
    Mine President, XPBC, GIH, stamp mill operator, snuffer bottle owner.

    Dec 2013
    Arcata, California
    Fisher 1212-x Fisher Gold Bug 2 Whites 4900/SP3 Rocker boxes, Keene sluices, Bazooka sluice, 2.5", 4" lowbankers, highbankers. Witch Sticks.
    677
    773 times
    Prospecting
    I'll second the 12 gauge slugs.
    Sockeye1730 likes this.

  10. #10
    RTR
    RTR is offline
    Charter Member
    us
    Roger

    Nov 2017
    Smith Mt. Lake Va.
    Teknetics Liberator Falcon MD-20 *********** Blue Bowl Angus MacKirk sluice Miller Table
    3,232
    11643 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    12 gauge w/3.5" slugs....A good attack Sheppard...And >>

  11. #11
    us
    Jan 2016
    South of Gunnison, Gold Basin
    F2
    1,771
    1991 times
    Prospecting
    I'd pack a 12 with slugs and a 44 mag as a back up/tent gun.
    Sockeye1730 likes this.

  12. #12
    us
    Jan 2016
    South of Gunnison, Gold Basin
    F2
    1,771
    1991 times
    Prospecting
    A good dog is the best tool to have around. They always know what's lurking before you do.

  13. #13

    Feb 2017
    Juneau AK
    111
    124 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I also agree. Leave the AKs at home, especially the hollow points. Nobody I know in Alaska would promote 7.62x39 as bear protection...not even for hunting. I wouldn't trust any handgun either aside from being an emergency side arm strapped on my side, or under my pillow in the tent. If a bear is on your ass you won't have time to dump the magazine...you'll be lucky to get one aimed shot off. I prefer a large caliber rifle - .338 and up. My personal bear gun is a 45/70 loaded hot with hard cast bullets. 12 gauge with brennekke slugs would be an excellent choice and far superior to what you have now, plus you could get some deterrent shells as well - cracker rounds, rubber slugs etc.. I would also bring a flare gun along. They generally work very well at chasing brownies off...just don't set the woods on fire :b
    wildminer likes this.

  14. #14
    us
    Dec 2016
    Colorado
    60
    65 times
    Prospecting
    Are you shipping the stuff from the lower 48 to Alaska or just from I'm guessing a heliport to a mine site? When I lived in bush Alaska I shipped all my stuff by Rubbermaid tote through the USPS. I think it was around a dollar a pound with a 70 pound max to ship it to an off the road system village in 2009. I wonder if palletizing stuff would have been cheaper. I'm not sure how they would have held up to an air drop, they held up great to the USPS and getting thrown out of bush planes when it was -20 out.

    I carried a Remington 870 12 gauge when I was up there. They are anvils of a gun and hold up great to the Alaska weather. I always had a round of buck shot first followed by slugs. It was kinda funny how the white guys were usually armed for bears and the Eskimos weren't concerned. We'd be out duck/ bird hunting and they'd have a 12 gauge with bird shot and nothing else or wouldn't even bring a pistol when they went 50 miles down river for groceries.

  15. #15
    us
    Apr 2015
    Oshkosh, WI
    996
    1432 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    We'll be shipping everything up there. Have to check with the pumpkin boys (Schneider National), on getting everything up there.

    Well, Coleman just sped up the solar panel purchase. They came out with a 80 W panel system to replace the 55 W system they had. The panels are longer and wouldn't fit in the boxes. Ran out and bought the old systems ASAP! Now I'm sitting on 220 W of panel and can run the 200 W inverter direct.
    et1955 and russau like this.

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Prepping Food to last longer.
    By FreedomUIC in forum Survival Tips
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: Dec 11, 2018, 09:53 PM
  2. Prepping the new dig site
    By Bronze in forum Gold Prospecting
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Apr 05, 2017, 06:20 PM
  3. Prepping for next MD outing....
    By Jamie Garrison in forum Metal Detecting
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: Mar 24, 2016, 08:53 AM
  4. prepping a new garrett pan
    By glocks&gold in forum Panning For Gold
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: Apr 11, 2015, 01:06 PM
  5. prepping for the 4th
    By packerbacker in forum My Daily Snapshot
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: Jul 07, 2009, 03:35 PM
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0