DREDGING IN ARIZONA - New Guidelines from BLM!!!

Terry Soloman

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From the Road Runners Prospecting Club:

ATTENTION !!
We have just been informed by the BLM that we need a Notice of Intent (NOI) to dredge on our BLM claims. The CFR 3809 and CFR 3715 states that dredging is not casual use. Any claim that is not a casual use claim needs an NOI. This includes all the claims on Black Canyon claims that are on BLM land.
As of this date, and until further notice members cannot dredge on any claims on BLM land. The officers of the club are setting up a meeting with the BLM to get clarification on these regulations. We will resolve this as soon as possible and inform every one of further developments.
Please understand this is not the clubs mistake, but the BLM’s. They have not enforced these regulations in the past, but now they have decided to do so. We can still dry wash, high bank, sluice, metal detect and pan on these claims. For now, it’s only dredging that is not allowed.
Excerpt from BLM web site:
PROCESSING CASUAL USE ACTIVITIES
A simple example of a Casual Use activity common in Arizona is the operation of prospecting or rock collecting using a metal detector and/or other hand tools while camping on public lands. You cannot engage in suction dredging at a Casual Use level on BLM-administered lands in Arizona. Suction dredging can only be done pursuant to a Notice or Plan, filed under 43CFR 3809. Any camping must be in compliance with all camping regulations and you must not occupy the public lands for more than 14 days in any 90-day period within a radius of 25 miles of your initially occupied site.
Casual Use operations involve simple prospecting with hand tools such as picks, shovels, metal detectors, and camping for less than 14 days in a 90-day period. This prospecting does not involve any type of explosives, chemical usage or mechanized earth moving equipment. Small-scale mining devices such as dry washers having engines with less than 10 horsepower are allowed, provided they are fed using only hand tools.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Les Glover
RRPC President
 

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Getting a NOI on a club claim for dredging could be a real PITA
 

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This is how they will deny your rights completely. There is only one way this will stop. I think you already know that.
 

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I realize not everyone agrees with the protests that the Bundy family has been involved in, but I think anybody with an open mind towards liberty and freedom would benefit from watching this video start to finish. There is something to be gleaned from it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p9l6rC7xOyM
 

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since its on a club claim that is something they will have to work out. "CFR 3809 and CFR 3715 states that dredging is not casual use" not true
43 CFR 3809.5 includes suction dredging as casual mining, if you are "actively mining" long term camping might be considered incidental.
if you are camping and doing some rock collecting or panning then the 14 day rule would apply, "occupation" means working a 40-50 hour work week.
there could be some new people or something, they produced a paper in 2011 the BLM web page and this circular are in error.
https://www.blm.gov/download/file/fid/14977
they could be misconstruing § 3809.31(b) since nether the state or BLM issue a permit to dredge in Arizona
 

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To quote Barney Fife, they had better " Nip it. Nip it in the bud!"
 

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Dredging in AZ has been flying under the radar a long time, I knew this was bound to happen as the government just can't help itself.
 

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These things would not be happening IF The Government of The United States of America, that would be State & Federal Governments, were following the Oath they have taken to "uphold the Constitution of the United States of America so help me God"! Problem is, the Government of The United States of America is attempting to promote Socialism and as such has broken their Oath of Office and are therefor Traitors to this Country. Those Perpetrators of Socialism should be arrested, tried in a court of law by an Impartial Judge & Jury and if found guilty should be sentenced to the highest penalty possible so that the Freedoms which have made this Country what it is will Stand as a shining light to all the world!

Please VOTE and exercise Your Rights as honest Legal Citizens of this country! And, keep trying to take back our country...............................63bkpkr
 

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