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  1. #1
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    Jun 2019
    South Wales
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    A complete beginner here in the UK.

    Hi everyone.

    I have in my possession, 2 gold pans (one large and one small) and a lot of enthusiasm.

    I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos and utterly amazed with what can be done with some patience and a bit of skill with a pan. I do realise that I wont get rich in panning here in the UK. And what little is available will be time consuming. Im doing this to get myself out and about and get a little bit of exercise. Possibly, to get just enough gold to take to a jewellers and get a ring crafted for my fiancee!

    Ive seen plenty of instructional videos on how to use a pan. Which I still cant do properly after several days and countless buckets of gravel and stuff from my local river. I do realise that there might not be any gold in my river, im just trying to get all the heavy stuff to the bottom of the pan where potential gold might be. Either im terrible at it, or not doing it right. Im following the countless videos but not getting the same results.

    Also, what conditions am I looking for when I do start my search for gold. At the moment im using my river which probably doesnt have anything in, im just using it to get pan practice. Ive cut up really small bits of lead which ive added to my bucket of stones and gravel from the river. I cant even find this lead, so im obviously not doing something right.

    Ive got rivers here next to hilly/mountainous areas, some of which have fast flowing areas a few miles downstream and a couple of twisty bits. This is very good according to what ive read, but dont want to go there until my pan skills are up to speed. What other geographical/geological conditions am I looking out for?

    Ive got 2 pans and a trowel. What other equipment should I be adding to my collection next?

    Sorry for all the questions, but Im really new to this and very keen!

    Thanks for reading.
    David.
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  2. #2
    us
    Jan 2016
    South of Gunnison, Gold Basin
    F2
    1,751
    1955 times
    Prospecting
    Gold is much easier than lead to pan and drops to the bottom faster. Theres not much skill to basic panning, it's just about gravity. Keep at it and visit some gold bearing areas and you'll be surprised how easy it is to do.
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  3. #3
    us
    May 2014
    AZ
    Sweep Jig, Whippet Dry Washer, Lobo ST, 1/2 width 2 tray Gold Cube, numerous pans, rocker box, and /home made fluid bed and stream sluices.
    2,006
    2896 times
    Prospecting
    IMO the best tip for searching for gold is to look for it in areas where it has been found before. If you are not in one of the general areas mentioned in this google search for gold in Wales then you are not likely to find any. https://www.google.com/search?q=gold...hrome&ie=UTF-8.

    It almost sounds like you are panning only gravel and not a mixture of dirt, sand and gravel. At the least you should be able to concentrate some heavy black sand from that mix and that should include any lead chunks that you have added by just the most basic of panning skills. In other words you need more practice following what you have seen in the videos until you can do this.

    Good luck
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    If it can't be grown, it must be mined!

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    Jun 2019
    South Wales
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    Oh! I just skimmed the top of the bed with my trowel. Need to dig a tiny bit too then? Noticed theres a lot of black anthracite in these rivers too. Are there heavy sands in all rivers or just gold containing ones? Thanks for the tip!

    David.

  5. #5
    us
    May 2014
    AZ
    Sweep Jig, Whippet Dry Washer, Lobo ST, 1/2 width 2 tray Gold Cube, numerous pans, rocker box, and /home made fluid bed and stream sluices.
    2,006
    2896 times
    Prospecting
    The black sands we speak of are mostly iron sands and are found virtually everywhere on earth since iron is one of the most common elements. Just finding black sand is NOT an indicator that you will find gold with it but if there is both gold and black sand in a river then they will accumulate together since they are both very dense in comparison to most other sands, etc. Since they are both dense they usually end up as low as they can go which is most often at bedrock level or on top of a layer of clay. Dig to and sample pan material from atop those levels as a start. If you can find cracks in bedrock then clean them out and pan the material. Remember, gold will settle as low as it can.

    Good luck.
    If it can't be grown, it must be mined!

  6. #6
    us
    Northern California

    Aug 2007
    Southern California
    XLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster
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    Hi vasquez109 and welcome to TNET!

    We would like to See a picture of each pan looking into the pans at an angle and showing the riffles in them with something like a 12 oz. soda can(sorry - 0.355 liters) in the picture for size. Are the pans stiff?

    Something is wrong here as lead should still be in your pan('s) when you get down to the fines!

    Adding a simple rare earth magnet to your kit will help sort out the magnetic bits. (have the magnet in a strong plastic bag Before You Use It as this will allow you to keep the magnet clean)

    Sample, sample, sample is the common practice but where you are sampling along any given river is important. Like on the down river side of any type of blockage to the water flow (large rocks, buried tree stump, dead cows) you know obstacles! At bends in the river channel, the inside curve offers a shorter distance for the water to travel which causes the water to bunch up and slow down and the heavies drop out.

    For now learn your equipment (let us look at the pans from the pictures you post), the lead should still be in the bottom of your pan !!!............63bkpkr
    Last edited by 63bkpkr; Jun 09, 2019 at 11:24 PM.
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  7. #7
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    Brian

    Mar 2014
    Central Oregon Coast
    Whites GMT Garret fully underwater
    966
    2344 times
    Prospecting
    Vasquez109. Learn to identify the 3 major rock types. Intrusive Igneous,,,,,sedimentary….and metamorphic. Then focus your attention on rivers and streams with intrusive igneous. That is a good place to start panning. Identify areas where gold has been found.

    About 50 years ago I was a newbie with a gold pan. I was also a college student of geology....so I knew the 3 major rock types. I elk hunted an area with my dad and a bunch of other friends. We camped next to a creek that had a lot of intrusive igneous rocks. On one hunting trip I took my gold pan and just for the heck of it I went down to the creek mid day and began digging in the gravels and panning. Low and behold I found colors and flakes. I spent many a weekend up in the area and followed the colors/flakes up the creek....working my way up about 6 miles.... I then began to find pickers and nuggets......that were not deformed much. Further examination of the area disclosed old high bank placer diggings. Long story short...….I filed claims and have held and worked them for 40 plus years.

    It all started with a gold pan and a small garden shovel and rock hammer. There you go: Enjoy the journey!

    Bejay

  8. #8
    us
    Feb 2015
    Moses Lake WA & Provo UT
    384
    508 times
    Prospecting
    Keep trying and watching videos. If you can find someone with some experience you will learn faster but for me doing it on my own it was about practice and eventually the intuition (and the first flakes of gold) came. As others have said itís important that you go somewhere where you know where gold has been found. Then once you are confident in your ability to find the gold you can start looking in other places.
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  9. #9
    us
    Feb 2015
    Moses Lake WA & Provo UT
    384
    508 times
    Prospecting
    This video was one that helped me the most.

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    Ed Tracy

    Jan 2015
    Shoreline,wa
    Equinox 800
    488
    807 times
    Prospecting
    From what I have seen from your area, best bet, get a metal detector and hunt for ancient relics. Also study the geologic history of your area, has gold been found there and if it has find out where and focus on that area, if not maybe buy some paydirt with gold and practice on that.
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    Ed Tracy

    Jan 2015
    Shoreline,wa
    Equinox 800
    488
    807 times
    Prospecting
    I will also add this, you have the ability to do what I would love to do, metal detect for ancient coins and more but on the other hand I have what you want, gold rich areas that I mine, Life is interesting.
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  12. #12
    gb
    Jun 2019
    South Wales
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    10 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Thank you so much everyone for your kind advice. Been practising all evening with my pan. Cut some more lead up and chucked in a small shaving into my pan followed by 3 good scoops of river sediment.

    Weird thing was, the shaving of lead started floating on the surface after a couple of shakes?!?!? How is lead floating on water How much heavier is gold than lead? Hope to get better though...

    David.

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    gb
    Jun 2019
    South Wales
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    Just taken some photos of my kit. The other pan is the same as this but a little smaller. Also have a trowel and a garden mesh pan for getting rid of the big stuff!

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  14. #14
    us
    Aug 2004
    Olympia WA
    Minelab Xterra 70, Minelab SD 2200d, 2.5", 3", 4"and several Keene 5" production dredges, Knelson Centrifuge, Gold screw automatic panner
    854
    1860 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bejay View Post
    Vasquez109. Learn to identify the 3 major rock types. Intrusive Igneous,,,,,sedimentary….and metamorphic. Then focus your attention on rivers and streams with intrusive igneous. That is a good place to start panning. Identify areas where gold has been found.

    About 50 years ago I was a newbie with a gold pan. I was also a college student of geology....so I knew the 3 major rock types. I elk hunted an area with my dad and a bunch of other friends. We camped next to a creek that had a lot of intrusive igneous rocks. On one hunting trip I took my gold pan and just for the heck of it I went down to the creek mid day and began digging in the gravels and panning. Low and behold I found colors and flakes. I spent many a weekend up in the area and followed the colors/flakes up the creek....working my way up about 6 miles.... I then began to find pickers and nuggets......that were not deformed much. Further examination of the area disclosed old high bank placer diggings. Long story short...….I filed claims and have held and worked them for 40 plus years.

    It all started with a gold pan and a small garden shovel and rock hammer. There you go: Enjoy the journey!

    Bejay
    This is actually the answer to your questions. Finding gold is a progression. not only of the areas you are looking but of your prospecting skills.
    Having good panning skills is the foundation of effective prospecting, master this first...master it well
    If you aren't recovering your lead shot they you aren't recovering any gold that may be present.
    I use analogy of a noisy hunter. If he is not proficient with walking quietly then he will never know if the area is void of game or if he simply scared it away before he spotted it.
    Learn to pan, buy some pay dirt, add lead shot and learn to recover it all then go prospecting
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  15. #15
    us
    Northern California

    Aug 2007
    Southern California
    XLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster
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    4501 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    vasquez109 - thank you for the pictures! As long as your pans are stiff then they should work just fine. It took me awhile to learn so just keep on practicing with "Small" pieces of lead till all of them are still in the pan when you finish.........63bkpkr

    or BB's
    Last edited by 63bkpkr; Jun 12, 2019 at 12:01 AM.
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