Rank these beach machines

Dmhawv

Tenderfoot
Jan 5, 2015
9
5
Sherrills Ford NC
Detector(s) used
Fisher f4
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
I'm anxious to start detecting in wet sand, wading at the ocean and around islands on a lake. I have a Fisher F4 that serves me well in other conditions. Budget is an issue so the top dollar detectors in my list are seriously stretching my budget but I wanted to include them if the quality and benefits simply demand I make the stretch. But if a lower cost model will give me good results with few frustrations, that suits me. Here's my list. Please rank them and or suggest alternatives

A. Whites surfmaster pi dual field $850

B. Fisher cz21 $1,300

C. Tesoro sand shark $700

D. Garrett infinium LS $1,000

Thank you so much for any input.
 

Terry Soloman

Gold Member
May 28, 2010
19,423
30,109
White Plains, New York
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Detector(s) used
Nokta Makro Legend// Pulsedive// Minelab GPZ 7000// Vanquish 540// Minelab Pro Find 35// Dune Kraken Sandscoop// Grave Digger Tools Tombstone shovel & Sidekick digger// Bunk's Hermit Pick
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
If you go with a pulse induction machine - Tesoro Sand Shark all day, every day! Most affordable, best warranty, easiest to learn and use, deeper than you'll ever need to go. Mine has made me over $5,000.00 in gold alone over the last seven years.

 

DeepseekerADS

Gold Member
Mar 3, 2013
14,880
21,725
SW, VA - Bull Mountain
Detector(s) used
CTX, Excal II, EQ800, Fisher 1260X, Tesoro Royal Sabre, Tejon, Garrett ADSIII, Carrot, Stealth 920iX, Keene A52
Primary Interest:
Other
You didn't list the Minelab Excallibur.

There's an older Excal Sword for sale right now for $700 on the treasure related stuff for sale forum, and it's the same technology as my Excal II.
 

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Dmhawv

Tenderfoot
Jan 5, 2015
9
5
Sherrills Ford NC
Detector(s) used
Fisher f4
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Now I'm hooked on the Excal - thanks a lot DeepseekerADS lol. The Sword worries me a bit due to age and warranty. The Sand Shark may be my pick for times I truly only want to hunt the wet sands. Is the PI mainly for the minerals in salt waters? Can I assume if I'm going to hunt the shores of a lake that I won't struggle with mineralization like in the ocean?
 

Geobound

Hero Member
Feb 21, 2017
614
867
Ontario
Detector(s) used
XP Deus (2019)
Fisher CZ-21 (2019)
CTX 3030 (April 2017)
AT Pro
Garrett Carrot
Pro Pointer
Stavr Scoop Moonstrik 6
Stealth 720i (BNIB)
Home made beach scoop
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Excal II or CZ21 are the two most common ones that I hear people bang on about all the time.

I just purchased a CTX 3030 in April of this year and I want to learn 1 machine at a time, but next year I will likely get the Excal II or the CZ21.

I'm not knocking the other brands that Terry has suggested as he's in the water a heck of a lot more than I am and will know more about them than me, I'm just telling you what my research has found over the past year.

Although $5k in 7 years isn't something to ignore either. LOL....

Good luck and let us know what you come up with.
 

Terry Soloman

Gold Member
May 28, 2010
19,423
30,109
White Plains, New York
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Detector(s) used
Nokta Makro Legend// Pulsedive// Minelab GPZ 7000// Vanquish 540// Minelab Pro Find 35// Dune Kraken Sandscoop// Grave Digger Tools Tombstone shovel & Sidekick digger// Bunk's Hermit Pick
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Now I'm hooked on the Excal - thanks a lot DeepseekerADS lol. The Sword worries me a bit due to age and warranty. The Sand Shark may be my pick for times I truly only want to hunt the wet sands. Is the PI mainly for the minerals in salt waters? Can I assume if I'm going to hunt the shores of a lake that I won't struggle with mineralization like in the ocean?

Any VLF machine works in FRESH water as long as it is waterproof (Garrett AT Pro). PI cuts through highly conductive black sands and minerals (salts/metals) like they are not there, because it works on a different principle.
 

DeepseekerADS

Gold Member
Mar 3, 2013
14,880
21,725
SW, VA - Bull Mountain
Detector(s) used
CTX, Excal II, EQ800, Fisher 1260X, Tesoro Royal Sabre, Tejon, Garrett ADSIII, Carrot, Stealth 920iX, Keene A52
Primary Interest:
Other
Now I'm hooked on the Excal - thanks a lot DeepseekerADS lol. The Sword worries me a bit due to age and warranty. The Sand Shark may be my pick for times I truly only want to hunt the wet sands. Is the PI mainly for the minerals in salt waters? Can I assume if I'm going to hunt the shores of a lake that I won't struggle with mineralization like in the ocean?

I only hit salt water about twice a year, a 5 hour one way drive. I'd really like to get out there more. So I'm geographically focused on fresh water lakes & rivers. Love the Excal, getting better on tonal target ID. Find a lot of whole & shredded beer cans in the river. The state should pay us to clean it up! Of course there's all the screw tops & pull tabs. They sound too good to leave on the bottom. There's even a member here who uses it as his land machine.

The warranty is long gone on that Sword, but he also spoke about all the cable replacements, o-rings, etc. I was worried about the age myself, but if the refurbs were done correctly, this machine is shall we say "legendary".
 

the lama

Greenie
Mar 19, 2017
13
9
Detector(s) used
at pro,cz21,infinium,ace 350,f2
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
i have both a cz21 and infinium they are both great but if you have much iron on your beach you probably would get frustrated with a pi i would think about a used cz
 

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Dmhawv

Tenderfoot
Jan 5, 2015
9
5
Sherrills Ford NC
Detector(s) used
Fisher f4
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Thank you everyone for your valued input. I went with the used Excel Sword. Have received it and have one lakeside outing under my belt. I can't wait to get it to the beach and give it a try. I hope to make some adjustments to the mounts and get some of the weight higher on a straight bar, right now it wears me out. I will have a bit of a learning curve with it but so far I'm really pleased.
 

Minelab Matt

Hero Member
Oct 19, 2014
548
603
S.Wales UK
Detector(s) used
Minelab X-Terra Pro
Deteknix Pi Pinpointer
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
What about the CTX 3030?

Gary Drayton uses one and AFAIK...he's earned more in one year with it than all of us put together, our whole lives detecting...lol

HOW does he do it?

Matt
 

ATPRoDon

Full Member
Nov 26, 2007
132
88
Griffin, GA
Detector(s) used
Whites Surf PI, Whites V3i, Minelab Equinox 800
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
I have only used the Whites Surfmaster PI and I will say I love it. It goes very deep and yes you will probably dig everything but in my own personal experience there just isn't tons of metal trash on the beach like you would have going to a park with it. Most popular beaches gets raked daily. I just came back from 2 trips to the Bahamas and while I didn't go out into the water I did stay in the wet sand. Everytime you heard a faint whisper it was something deep, and if it was closer to the surface you got a louder sound. You can definitely tell size with a PI and if you practice you can tell if its a nail or other types of metal. I also like the fact I can take the box and hip mount it so the weight doesn't wear my arm out. Anyway I'm sticking with it.
 

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