WAS JOHN BROWN TOLD WHO TO KILL BY THE RADICAL REPUBLICANS?

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That is a good question, and I cant say I know the answer to it, but I know if they did, well, you re write some history huh? If you could find that letter, that said this was a goal, then it would still be felt, to this day. Brown had some very powerful allies, and the rush to get to Kansas by the New Englanders, and the boys from the South, was crazy. They battled well before the war, and I have no doubt that it played a major role in Browns wild ideas and thoughts, I really think some of the things he saw and experienced fueled his crazy!
 

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That is a good question, and I cant say I know the answer to it, but I know if they did, well, you re write some history huh? If you could find that letter, that said this was a goal, then it would still be felt, to this day. Brown had some very powerful allies, and the rush to get to Kansas by the New Englanders, and the boys from the South, was crazy. They battled well before the war, and I have no doubt that it played a major role in Browns wild ideas and thoughts, I really think some of the things he saw and experienced fueled his crazy!

Actually the trial is a matter of public record at this time. All you have to do is google it. You will see the Q&A as it was recorded 150 years ago. The proof is in the pudding, if you know what to look for.

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Actually the trial is a matter of public record at this time. All you have to do is google it. You will see the Q&A as it was recorded 150 years ago. The proof is in the pudding, if you know what to look for.

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Well, looks like I will be reading some more, and more! better put on some coffee lol!
 

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Well, after reading the court docs as you suggested, I think those six used Brown, his ardent beliefs, and wild ideas to further their own, and much larger agenda. I think what spoke most to me was one of the statements Brown,
"Let me say also a word in regard to the statements made by some of those connected with me. I her it has been stated by some of them that I have induced them to join me. But the contrary is true. I do not say this to injure them, but as regretting their weakness. There is not one of them but joined me of his own accord, and the greater part of them at their own expense. A number of them I never saw, and never had a word of conversation with till the day they came to me; and that was for the purpose I have stated."
John Brown was many things, but if he was anything, he was consistent in deed and speech. He had "tested his metal" so to speak. These others, must have had other ideas and plans. I think if you read their testimony it bears that out. So in conclusion, I think they helped guide his passion, and in effect, decided his fate.
 

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"Let me say also a word in regard to the statements made by some of those connected with me. I her it has been stated by some of them that I have induced them to join me. But the contrary is true. I do not say this to injure them, but as regretting their weakness. There is not one of them but joined me of his own accord, and the greater part of them at their own expense. A number of them I never saw, and never had a word of conversation with till the day they came to me; and that was for the purpose I have stated."

This is a key statement. It is very relevant to what followed. It is also points to a Radical Republican/ Abolitionist secret agenda, that was a terrorist group with assaults that were already planned. It is a relevant statement that may allude to the slaughter of the 5 men in Kansas assassinated by John Brown and his sons. It is a very important piece of evidence to say the least!
Thanks for posting it Hillbilly!

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Bibliography on "Bleeding Kansas"
Image of and link to sheet music "Ho! for the Kansas Plains," a song about making Kansas a free stateBelow are listed published materials in our collections related to territorial Kansas, 1854-1861, and the struggle between free-state and pro-slave forces.

Berneking, Carolyn, ed. "A Look at Early Lawrence: Letters From Robert Gaston Elliot." Kansas Historical Quarterly 43 (Autumn 1977): 282-296. Founder of Kansas Free State newspaper (1854) wrote to his sister and fiance, 1857-1866.

Cecil-Fronsman, Bill. "'Death to all Yankees and Traitors in Kansas': The Squatter Sovereign and the Defense of Slavery in Kansas." Kansas History 16 (Spring 1993): 22-33. Subsidized by the town company and edited by Kelley and Stringfellow, Atchison's pro-slave newspaper moderated its tone once the political battle was lost and became Freedom's Champion when John A. Martin took it over in 1858.

Connelley, William E. James Henry Lane: "The Grim Chieftain" of Kansas. Topeka, Kans.: Crane, 1899.

Cory, C. E. "Slavery in Kansas." Kansas Historical Collections 7 (1901-1902): 229-242. Discusses legal status of slavery and provides accounts of individual slaves.

Craik, Elmer LeRoy. "Southern Interest in Territorial Kansas, 1854-1858." Kansas Historical Collections 15 (1919-1922): 334-450. His 1922 University of Kansas doctoral dissertation.

Crafton, Allen. Free State Fortress: The First Ten Years of the History of Lawrence, Kansas. Lawrence, Kans.: World Co., 1954.

Farley, Alan W. "Annals of Quindaro: A Kansas Ghost Town." Kansas Historical Quarterly 22 (Winter 1956): 305-320. Quindaro was established in Wyandotte County, early 1856, as "a friendly portal for antislavery partisans to enter and leave Kansas."

Fellman, Michael. "Julia Louisa Lovejoy Goes West." Western Humanities Review 31 (Summer 1977): 227-242. Examines the "range and depth of Julia's experiences" in Kansas Territory; she was a New England emigrant dedicated to abolitionism who corresponded regularly with several Eastern newspapers.

Image of and link to an editorial cartoon, "Liberty, the Fair Maid of Kansas, in the hands of the Border Ruffians"__________. "Rehearsal for the Civil War: Antislavery and Proslavery at the Fighting Point in Kansas, 1854-1856." In Antislavery Reconsidered: New Perspectives on the Abolitionists. Lewis Perry and Michael Fellman, eds. (Baton Rouge: Louisiana State University Press, 1979), 287-307.

Gaeddert, G. Raymond. The Birth of Kansas. Lawrence: University of Kansas Publications, 1940. Detailed and reliable account of political events leading to Kansas statehood; emphasis on Wyandotte convention of 1859.

Gower, Calvin W. "Kansas Territory and Its Boundary Question: 'Big Kansas' or 'Little Kansas'." Kansas Historical Quarterly 33 (Spring 1967): 1-12. Pros and cons regarding this issue; former would have extended western border to Continental Divide and northern to Platte River.

Hart, Charles. "The Natural Limits of Slavery Expansion: Kansas-Nebraska Act, 1854." Kansas Historical Quarterly 34 (Spring 1968): 32-50. Age-old historical issue regarding survivability of the "peculiar institution" in these western territories.

Hougen, Harvey R. "The Marais des Cygnes Massacre and the Execution of William Griffith." Kansas History 8 (Summer 1985): 74-94. Provides details of the massacre on May 19, 1858, William Griffith's subsequent arrest, murder trial, conviction, and execution on Oct. 30, 1863.

Hurt, R. Douglas. Agriculture and Slavery in Missouri's Little Dixie. Columbia: University of Missouri Press, 1992. Chapters 10 and 11 give Missouri's side of the Kansas territorial problems.

Johannsen, Robert W. "The Lecompton Constitutional Convention: An Analysis of its Membership." Kansas Historical Quarterly 23 (Autumn 1957): 225-243. Pro-slave gathering of 1857 that sparked major national debate.

Image of advertisement of an anti-slavery meeting to be held on December 2, 1859, in Lawrence, on the day that abolitionist John Brown was executed, November 26, 1859Johnson, David W. "Freesoilers for God: Kansas Newspaper Editors and the Antislavery Crusade." Kansas History 2 (Summer 1979): 74-85. Picks half a dozen free state advocates in territorial Kansas, including John Speer and T. Dwight Thacher.

Johnson, Samuel A. "The Emigrant Aid Company in Kansas." Kansas Historical Quarterly 1 (November 1932): 429-441. Company's role in making Kansas free; concludes that it was of great importance, if not deciding factor, in struggle.

__________. "The Emigrant Aid Company in the Kansas Conflict." Kansas Historical Quarterly 6 (February 1937): 21-33.

__________. The Battle Cry of Freedom: The New England Emigrant Aid Company in the Kansas Crusade. Lawrence: University of Kansas Press, 1954.

Lovejoy, Julia Louisa. "'Letters From Kanzas.'" Kansas Historical Quarterly 11 (February 1942): 29-44. Letters begin with the planning of the journey west; originally published in Independent Democrat, Concord, N.H., in 1855.

Malin, James C. John Brown and the Legend of Fifty-Six. Philadelphia: The American Philosophical Society, 1942.

Mudge, Melville R., ed. "Benjamin Franklin Mudge: A Letter From Quindaro." Kansas History 13 (Winter 1990/1991): 218-222. Mudge's letter to his brother dated February 22, 1862, gives considerable attention to the movement of contrabands across the border.

Mullis, Tony R. "John Geary, Kansas, and the 1856 National Election." Heritage of the Great Plains 25 (Winter 1992): 13-24. Governor Geary's timely "quelling of violence in `Bleeding Kansas'," although only a temporary pacification, "virtually assured James Buchanan and the Democratic Party success in November."

Napier, Rita. "Economic Democracy in Kansas: Speculation and Townsite Preemption in Kickapoo." Kansas Historical Quarterly 40 (Autumn 1974): 349-369. Established by Weston, Missouri, developers on Kansas side of river in 1854, Kickapoo was one of many towns to vie for role as commercial center.

Image of title page of a publication by Charles W. Briggs called The Reign Of Terror In Kanzas, 1856Nichols, Alice. Bleeding Kansas. New York: Oxford University Press, 1954. A standard account of the conflict in the territory though rather dated in its interpretations.

Oates, Stephen B. To Purge This Land With Blood: A Biography of John Brown. New York: Harper and Row, 1970.

__________. "To Wash This Land in Blood: John Brown in Kansas." The American West. 6 (July and November 1969): 4:36-41; 6:24-27.

Pierson, Michael D., ed. "'A War of Extermination': A Newly Uncovered Letter by Julia Louisa Lovejoy, 1856." Kansas History 16 (Summer 1993): 120-123.

Potter, David M., and Don E. Fehrenbacher. "The Impending Crisis:" 1848-1861. New York: Harper & Row, 1976. This volume was edited and completed by Fehrenbacher.

Potts, James B. "North of `Bleeding Kansas': The 1850s Political Crisis in Nebraska Territory." Nebraska History 73 (Fall 1992): 110-118. Frequent mention of the Kansas struggle--a sharp contrast to Nebraska scene--and discussion of issues such as the annexation of the "South Platte" region to Kansas.

Rawley, James. Race and Politics: "Bleeding Kansas" and the Coming of the Civil War. Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott Co., 1969. Argues that America was land of "racialists" and thus race, not slavery, was fundamental issue to be settled in Kansas Territory.

Robinson, Charles. The Kansas Conflict. 1892. Reprint. Lawrence, Kans.: Journal Publishing Co., 1898.

Robinson, Sara T.D. Kansas: Its Exterior and Interior Life: Including a full view of its Settlement, Political History, Social life, Climate, Soil, Production, Scenery, etc. 1856. Reprint. Lawrence: Kansas Heritage Press, 1990. Although its biases are obvious, this is an interesting and useful account by the wife of Dr. Charles Robinson, free-state leader and first state governor.

SenGupta, Gunja. For God and Mammon: Evangelicals and Entrepreneurs, Masters and Slaves in Territorial Kansas, 1854-1860. Athens, Ga.: University of Georgia Press, 1996. An intriguing examination of the complexity of free-state movement in Kansas Territory as well as the ideology and dynamics of proslavery activism.

__________. "'A Model New England State': Northeastern Antislavery in Territorial Kansas, 1854-1860." Civil War History 39 (March 1993): 31-46. New England abolitionists sought more than the defeat of slavery; they wished to place their "uniquely northeastern tapestry of `Americanism' over the morally and economically vulnerable West."

__________. "Servants for Freedom: Christian Abolitionists in Territorial Kansas, 1854-1858." Kansas History 16 (Autumn 1993): 200-213. Focuses on the beliefs and work of a handful of "radical" abolitionist missionaries affiliated with the American Missionary Association.

Sheridan, Richard B. "From Slavery in Missouri to Freedom in Kansas: The Influx of Black Fugitives and Contrabands Into Kansas, 1854-1865." Kansas History 12 (Spring 1989): 28-47.

Shortridge, James R. "People of the New Frontier: Kansas Population Origins, 1865." Kansas History 14 (Autumn 1991): 162-185. The author, a geographer, analyses the cultural influences wrought by settlers from four basic sub-regions east of the Mississippi.

Image of a drawing of Territorial Governor Andrew Reeder escaping Kansas Territory disguised as a wood chopper.Stampp, Kenneth M. America in 1857: A Nation on the Brink. New York: Oxford University Press, 1990. Considerable attention given to Lecompton movement and its nationwide influence.

Turk, Eleanor L. "The Germans of Atchison, 1854-1859: Development of an Ethnic Community." Kansas History 2 (Autumn 1979): 146-156. An early sizeable ethnic community.

U.S. Congress, House of Representatives. Report of the Special Committee Appointed to Investigate the Troubles in Kansas; With the Views of the Minority of Said Committee. Report No. 200, 34th Congress, 1st Session, 1856. An elaborate report, giving majority and minority views. Congressional publications, including the Globe, are replete with items pertaining to the Kansas question during the 1850s.

Veale, George W. "Coming In and Going Out." Kansas Historical Collections 11 (1909-1910): 5-12. Author's KSHS presidential address which was reminiscence of his early experiences, especially in 1850s Quindaro.

Watts, Dale. "How Bloody was Bleeding Kansas? Political Killings in Kansas Territory, 1854-1861." Kansas History 18 (Summer 1995): 116-129. After carefully analyzing the evidence, concludes that political killings number about fifty, far less than many have indicated, and that the violence was perpetrated about equally by both sides--free state and proslave.

Wilson, Paul E. "How the Law Came to Kansas." Kansas History 15 (Spring 1992): 18-35. Emphasis on the territorial period; an abbreviated version of this paper was published in the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association 63 (January 1994): 26-31.

Wolff, Gerald W. The Kansas-Nebraska Bill: Party, Section, and the Coming of the Civil War. New York: Revisionist Press, 1977. Based on his doctoral dissertation at the University of Iowa in 1969.
 

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Marais des Cygnes Massacre site
Marais des Cygnes Massacre, 1858

The Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854 made Kansas a territory whose people would decide whether it was admitted to the Union as a slave or free state. This set off a rivalry with proslavery supporters from bordering Missouri. The conflict escalated into the violence known as “Bleeding Kansas.”

Missouri border ruffians like Charles Hamelton led raids into Kansas to steal goods and harass freestaters. Linn County was the site of some of the raids, including a particularly deadly one May 19, 1858. Hamilton and some 30 other men rode through the village of Trading Post, captured 11 free-state men, and marched them into a ravine where they opened fire upon them. Five of the men were killed, five were seriously injured, and one escaped unharmed.

The community was drawn together in the face of these events even as they were unfolding. Sarah Read, wife of the captured Reverend Samuel Read, set off on foot, spyglass in hand, to chase down Hamilton and his men. She came upon the victims, some still alive, and tried to render aid. Word of the massacre spread quickly and by afternoon freestaters from around the area had gathered to treat the wounded, collect the dead, and help James Montgomery’s Jayhawkers ride into Missouri in fruitless pursuit of Hamilton’s gang.

Locally, wrathful indignation accompanied feelings of shock. John Brown, arriving at the scene toward the end of June, built a "fort" some 220 yards south of the ravine. It was reported to have been two stories high, walled up with logs and with a flat roof. Water from a spring ran through the house and into a pit at the southwest corner.

The land on which the fort was built belonged to Eli Snider, a blacksmith. Later he sold it to Brown's friend Charles C. Hadsall, who agreed to let Brown occupy it for military purposes. Brown and his men withdrew at the end of the summer, leaving the fort to Hadsall.

In later years Hadsall built a stone house adjoining the site of Brown's fort, enclosing the spring within the walls of the first floor. In 1941 the Kansas legislature authorized acceptance of the massacre site, including Hadsall's house, as a gift to the state from the Pleasanton Post, Veterans of Foreign Wars. In 1961 it provided funds for the restoration of the building, and in 1963 the entire property was turned over to the Kansas Historical Society for administration. A museum was established in the upper floor of the building in 1964. Today the park is operated as Marais des Cygnes Massacre State Historic Site, a drive-through interpreted setting.

"Le Marais du Cygne"
By John Greenleaf Whittier

A BLUSH as of roses
Where rose never grew!
Great drops on the bunch-grass,
But not of the dew!
A taint in the sweet air
For wild bees to shun!
A stain that shall never
Bleach out in the sun!

Back, steed of the prairies!
Sweet song-bird, fly back!
Wheel hither, bald vulture!
Gray wolf, call thy pack!
The foul human vultures
Have feasted and fled;
The wolves of the Border
Have crept from the dead

Not in vain on the dial
The shade moves along
To point the great contrasts
Of right and wrong;
Free homes and free altars
And fields of ripe food;
The reeds of the Swan's Marsh,
Whose bloom is of blood.

On the lintels of Kansas
That blood shall not dry;
Henceforth the Bad Angel
Shall harmless go by;
Henceforth to the sunset,
Unchecked on her way,
Shall Liberty follow
The march of the day.
 

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" John Brown, arriving at the scene toward the end of June" That was after his family (sons) already left a year before he did. Brown was busy in the north east meeting with the secret six for funding...etc. Great post! L.C.:thumbsup:
 

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SECRET SIX, THE VIOLENT RADICAL ABOLITIONIST AND SUPPORTERS OF JOHN BROWN

#1 Thomas Wentworth Higginson

Higginson led a small group who stormed the federal courthouse in Boston with battering rams, axes, cleavers, and revolvers.[2] They could not prevent Burns from being taken back to the South. Higginson received a saber slash on his chin; he wore the scar proudly for the rest of his life.

#2 Samuel Gridley Howe

Howe did not remain in Massachusetts for long after graduating. In 1824, shortly after Howe was certified to practice medicine, he became fired by enthusiasm for the Greek Revolution and the example of his idol Lord Byron. Howe fled the memory of an unhappy love affair and sailed for Greece, where he joined the Greek army as a surgeon.[3][7]

In Greece his services were not confined to the duties of a surgeon, but were of a more military nature. Howe's bravery, enthusiasm, and ability as a commander, as well as his humanity, won him the title "the Lafayette of the Greek Revolution." Although it is written that he disapproved of the attack upon Harper's Ferry, Howe had funded John Brown's work as a member of the Secret Six.[27] After Brown's arrest, Howe temporarily fled to Canada to escape prosecution.

#3 Theodore Parker

During the undeclared war in Kansas (see Bleeding Kansas and Origins of the American Civil War) prior to the outbreak of the American Civil War, Parker supplied money for weapons for free state militias. As a member of the Secret Six, he supported the abolitionist John Brown, whom many considered a terrorist. After Brown's arrest, Parker wrote a public letter, "John Brown's Expedition Reviewed," defending his actions and the right of slaves to kill their masters.

#4 Franklin Benjamin Sanborn

In 1856, he became secretary of the Massachusetts Kansas Commission[4] and came into close touch with John Brown. Sanborn was one of six influential men who supplied Brown with support for the raid on Harper's Ferry on October 16–18, 1859. People loved and hated him. Walt Whitman described Sanborn as "a fighter, up in arms, a devotee, a revolutionary crusader, hot in the collar, quick on the trigger, noble, optimistic." Henry David Thoreau feared the passionate Concord schoolteacher was "only too steadfast and earnest", a type, as Thoreau put it, "that calmly, so calmly, ignites and then throws bomb after bomb."

#5 Gerrit Smith

A staunch abolitionist, he was a member of the Secret Six who financially supported John Brown's raid at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
Smith, disillusioned by the apparent failure of electoral change, brought his political life quickly to a close. He emerged later, however, more radical than before, becoming an opponent of land monopoly,(KGC monopolies) It was during this movement that he first met and financially supported John Brown.[13][14] He later became more closely acquainted with John Brown, to whom he sold a farm in North Elba, and from time to time supplied him with funds. In 1859, Smith joined the Secret Six, a group of wealthy northern abolitionists, who supported Brown in his efforts to capture the armory at Harpers Ferry, West Virginia (then Virginia) and arm the slaves. After the failed raid on Harpers Ferry, Senator Jefferson Davis unsuccessfully attempted to have Smith accused, tried, and hanged along with Brown.[11] Upset by the raid, its outcome, and its aftermath, Smith suffered a mental breakdown, and for several weeks was confined to the state asylum in Utica. (AND WE WERE TOLD JOHN BROWN WAS A LUNATIC)

#6 George Luther Stearns

Stearns was one of the "Secret Six" who aided John Brown in Kansas, and financially supported him until Brown's execution after the ill-fated raid on Harpers Ferry. Stearns physically owned the pikes and 200 Sharps rifles brought to Harpers Ferry by Brown and his followers. Following Brown's arrest, Stearns briefly fled to Canada, but returned to Medford to face inquiry following Brown's death.
 

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Ask yourself this.....what other murders / assassinations / poisonings, did the secret six support? Is it possible they infected the National hotel's drinking water during the Democratic convention killing Quitman and other K.G.C. members?? I believe they did, and they also had a certain governor poisoned as well as almost getting president James Buchanan who remained sick for quite some time but never died from the disease they had infected him and the others attending the convention with.

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Who did the Radical Republican terrorist squad leader John Brown and his squad of armed terrorist [/B]attack in the night, using a stealthy terroristic plan of attacking a sleeping enemy. and then hack to them to pieces with swords as they begged for their lives.? Just some random slave owners?

When the K.G.C. sent their hit man squad of assassins to kill Lincoln and his cabinet members they had chosen specific targets. Wouldn't you think that logically the opposition may have done the same thing when they sent their squad of hit men to kill their enemy targets?

Q: Did Booth and his men go into Fords theatre guns blazing, looking for a big body count and maybe getting the president?
A: NO, just the chosen, by a terrorist attack at night during a time of leisure

Q: Did John brown go into one of the local slave owners hang outs and hack up as many slave owners as he could?
A: No, just the chosen, by a terrorist attack at night during a time of leisure.

Who got killed by John Brown:icon_scratch:

!st one killed was the most important one right? wouldn't want him to catch wind of you coming and get away?

In 1855, Brown learned from his adult sons in the Kansas territory that their families were completely unprepared to face attack, and that pro-slavery forces there were militant. Determined to oppose the advances of pro-slavery supporters, Brown left for Kansas, enlisting a son-in-law and making several stops just to collect funds and weapons. As reported by the New York Tribune, Brown stopped en route to participate in an anti-slavery convention that took place in June 1855 in Albany, New York. Despite the controversy that ensued on the convention floor regarding the support of violent efforts on behalf of the free state cause, several individuals provided Brown some solicited financial support. As he went westward, however, Brown found more militant support in his home state of Ohio, particularly in the strongly anti-slavery Western Reserve section where he had been reared.
Brown, taking advantage of the fragile peace, left Kansas with three of his sons to raise money from supporters in the north.
By November 1856, Brown had returned to the East, and spent the next two years in New England raising funds. Initially, Brown returned to Springfield, where he received contributions, and also a letter of recommendation from a prominent and wealthy merchant, Mr. George Walker. George Walker was the brother-in-law of Franklin Benjamin Sanborn, the secretary for the Massachusetts State Kansas Committee, who later introduced Brown to several influential abolitionists in the Boston area in January 1857. Amos Adams Lawrence, a prominent Boston merchant, secretly gave a large amount of cash. William Lloyd Garrison, Thomas Wentworth Higginson, Theodore Parker and George Luther Stearns, and Samuel Gridley Howe also supported Brown. A group of six wealthy abolitionists — Sanborn, Higginson, Parker, Stearns, Howe, and Gerrit Smith — agreed to offer Brown financial support for his antislavery activities; they would eventually provide most of the financial backing for the raid on Harpers Ferry, and would come to be known as the Secret Six and the Committee of Six. Brown often requested help from them with "no questions asked" and it remains unclear of how much of Brown's scheme the Secret Six were aware.
On January 7, 1858, the Massachusetts Committee pledged to provide 200 Sharps Rifles and ammunition, which were being stored at Tabor, Iowa. In March, Brown contracted Charles Blair of Collinsville, Connecticut for 1,000 pikes Sounds to me like a terrorist organisation getting geared up for some terrorist actions. All being fueled and coached by the Radical Republican Inner Circle!
In the following months, Brown continued to raise funds, visiting Worcester, Springfield, New Haven, Syracuse and Boston. In Boston, he met Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson. He received many pledges but little cash. In March, while in New York City, he was introduced to Hugh Forbes, an English mercenary, who had experience as a military tactician that he gained while fighting with Giuseppe Garibaldi in Italy in 1848. Brown hired him to be the drillmaster for his men and to write their tactical handbook. They agreed to meet in Tabor that summer. TRAINING the now funded terrorist for radical actions against the enemy.
On August 7, he arrived in Tabor. Forbes arrived two days later. Over several weeks, the two men put together a "Well-Matured Plan" for fighting slavery in the South. The men quarreled over many of the details. In November, their troops left for Kansas. Forbes had not received his salary and was still feuding with Brown, so he returned to the East instead of venturing into Kansas. He would soon threaten to expose the plot to the government.
The Secret Six feared their names would be made public. Howe and Higginson wanted no delays in Brown's progress, while Parker, Stearns, Smith and Sanborn insisted on postponement. Stearns and Smith were the major sources of funds, and their words carried more weight.
To throw Forbes off the trail and to invalidate his assertions, Brown returned to Kansas in June, and he remained in that vicinity for six months. There he joined forces with James Montgomery, who was leading raids into Missouri. On December 20, Brown led his own raid, in which he liberated eleven slaves, took captive two white men, and looted horses and wagons. On January 20, 1859, he embarked on a lengthy journey to take the eleven liberated slaves to Detroit and then on a ferry to Canada. While passing through Chicago, Brown met with Allan Pinkerton who arranged and raised the fare for the passage to Detroit:icon_scratch:
during the night of May 24 and the morning of May 25, 1856. In reaction to the sacking of Lawrence, Kansas by pro-slavery forces, John Brown and a band of abolitionist settlers – some of them members of the Pottawatomie Rifles – killed five settlers north of Pottawatomie Creek in Franklin County, Kansas. Allen Pinkerton pays the fare for these known terrorist murderers three years after the Osawatomie massacre?:icon_scratch:
Some time after dark, the party left their place of hiding and proceeded on their "secret expedition". Late in the evening, they called at the house of James P. Doyle and ordered him and his two adult sons, William and Drury (all former slave catchers) to go with them as prisoners. (Doyle's 16-year-old son, John, who was not a member of the pro-slavery Law and Order Party, was spared after his mother pleaded for his life.) The three men were escorted by their captors out into the darkness, where Owen Brown and one of his brothers killed them with broadswords. John Brown, Sr. did not participate in the stabbing but fired a shot into the head of the fallen James Doyle to ensure he was dead. Certainly sounds to me like there was a deffinite reason that John Brown shot Mr. Doyal between the eyes with a definite kill shot to make sure he was dead.'DOUBLE TAPPED" if you would, like a true PAID hit man would do.

Think about it, L.C. Baker

PS: WHY JAMES P. DOYAL??????? it is the answer to how we know John Brown was told who to kill, and funded to do so. And for some reason never charged and even aided later on by Allen Pinkerton future secret service agent for the United States Government.


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What? You don't believe that the Radical Republicans killed and tried to kill other pro-slavery Democrats? This letter from one Brother to another tells about Lane and his mens attempts to kill J.Sterling Morton who was sent to Nebraska by the K.G.C. to do battle with the abolitionist like Lane. Just like the first Gov. Francis Burt, who it seems more and more each day was assassinated by poisoning on his way there and finished off by the radical Republicans in Nebraska who like John Brown and Lane, thought they were doing g\God's work.

Nothing beats hard evidence, :thumbsup: L.C.

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Who did the Radical Republican terrorist squad leader John Brown and his squad of armed terrorist [/B]attack in the night, using a stealthy terroristic plan of attacking a sleeping enemy. and then hack to them to pieces with swords as they begged for their lives.? Just some random slave owners?

When the K.G.C. sent their hit man squad of assassins to kill Lincoln and his cabinet members they had chosen specific targets. Wouldn't you think that logically the opposition may have done the same thing when they sent their squad of hit men to kill their enemy targets?

Q: Did Booth and his men go into Fords theatre guns blazing, looking for a big body count and maybe getting the president?
A: NO, just the chosen, by a terrorist attack at night during a time of leisure

Q: Did John brown go into one of the local slave owners hang outs and hack up as many slave owners as he could?
A: No, just the chosen, by a terrorist attack at night during a time of leisure.

Who got killed by John Brown:icon_scratch:

!st one killed was the most important one right? wouldn't want him to catch wind of you coming and get away?

In 1855, Brown learned from his adult sons in the Kansas territory that their families were completely unprepared to face attack, and that pro-slavery forces there were militant. Determined to oppose the advances of pro-slavery supporters, Brown left for Kansas, enlisting a son-in-law and making several stops just to collect funds and weapons. As reported by the New York Tribune, Brown stopped en route to participate in an anti-slavery convention that took place in June 1855 in Albany, New York. Despite the controversy that ensued on the convention floor regarding the support of violent efforts on behalf of the free state cause, several individuals provided Brown some solicited financial support. As he went westward, however, Brown found more militant support in his home state of Ohio, particularly in the strongly anti-slavery Western Reserve section where he had been reared.
Brown, taking advantage of the fragile peace, left Kansas with three of his sons to raise money from supporters in the north.
By November 1856, Brown had returned to the East, and spent the next two years in New England raising funds. Initially, Brown returned to Springfield, where he received contributions, and also a letter of recommendation from a prominent and wealthy merchant, Mr. George Walker. George Walker was the brother-in-law of Franklin Benjamin Sanborn, the secretary for the Massachusetts State Kansas Committee, who later introduced Brown to several influential abolitionists in the Boston area in January 1857. Amos Adams Lawrence, a prominent Boston merchant, secretly gave a large amount of cash. William Lloyd Garrison, Thomas Wentworth Higginson, Theodore Parker and George Luther Stearns, and Samuel Gridley Howe also supported Brown. A group of six wealthy abolitionists – Sanborn, Higginson, Parker, Stearns, Howe, and Gerrit Smith – agreed to offer Brown financial support for his antislavery activities; they would eventually provide most of the financial backing for the raid on Harpers Ferry, and would come to be known as the Secret Six and the Committee of Six. Brown often requested help from them with "no questions asked" and it remains unclear of how much of Brown's scheme the Secret Six were aware.
On January 7, 1858, the Massachusetts Committee pledged to provide 200 Sharps Rifles and ammunition, which were being stored at Tabor, Iowa. In March, Brown contracted Charles Blair of Collinsville, Connecticut for 1,000 pikes Sounds to me like a terrorist organisation getting geared up for some terrorist actions. All being fueled and coached by the Radical Republican Inner Circle!
In the following months, Brown continued to raise funds, visiting Worcester, Springfield, New Haven, Syracuse and Boston. In Boston, he met Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson. He received many pledges but little cash. In March, while in New York City, he was introduced to Hugh Forbes, an English mercenary, who had experience as a military tactician that he gained while fighting with Giuseppe Garibaldi in Italy in 1848. Brown hired him to be the drillmaster for his men and to write their tactical handbook. They agreed to meet in Tabor that summer. TRAINING the now funded terrorist for radical actions against the enemy.
On August 7, he arrived in Tabor. Forbes arrived two days later. Over several weeks, the two men put together a "Well-Matured Plan" for fighting slavery in the South. The men quarreled over many of the details. In November, their troops left for Kansas. Forbes had not received his salary and was still feuding with Brown, so he returned to the East instead of venturing into Kansas. He would soon threaten to expose the plot to the government.
The Secret Six feared their names would be made public. Howe and Higginson wanted no delays in Brown's progress, while Parker, Stearns, Smith and Sanborn insisted on postponement. Stearns and Smith were the major sources of funds, and their words carried more weight.
To throw Forbes off the trail and to invalidate his assertions, Brown returned to Kansas in June, and he remained in that vicinity for six months. There he joined forces with James Montgomery, who was leading raids into Missouri. On December 20, Brown led his own raid, in which he liberated eleven slaves, took captive two white men, and looted horses and wagons. On January 20, 1859, he embarked on a lengthy journey to take the eleven liberated slaves to Detroit and then on a ferry to Canada. While passing through Chicago, Brown met with Allan Pinkerton who arranged and raised the fare for the passage to Detroit:icon_scratch:
during the night of May 24 and the morning of May 25, 1856. In reaction to the sacking of Lawrence, Kansas by pro-slavery forces, John Brown and a band of abolitionist settlers — some of them members of the Pottawatomie Rifles — killed five settlers north of Pottawatomie Creek in Franklin County, Kansas. Allen Pinkerton pays the fare for these known terrorist murderers three years after the Osawatomie massacre?:icon_scratch:
Some time after dark, the party left their place of hiding and proceeded on their "secret expedition". Late in the evening, they called at the house of James P. Doyle and ordered him and his two adult sons, William and Drury (all former slave catchers) to go with them as prisoners. (Doyle's 16-year-old son, John, who was not a member of the pro-slavery Law and Order Party, was spared after his mother pleaded for his life.) The three men were escorted by their captors out into the darkness, where Owen Brown and one of his brothers killed them with broadswords. John Brown, Sr. did not participate in the stabbing but fired a shot into the head of the fallen James Doyle to ensure he was dead. Certainly sounds to me like there was a deffinite reason that John Brown shot Mr. Doyal between the eyes with a definite kill shot to make sure he was dead.'DOUBLE TAPPED" if you would, like a true PAID hit man would do.


PS: WHY JAMES P. DOYLE??????? it is the answer to how we know John Brown was told who to kill, and funded to do so. And for some reason never charged and even aided later on by Allen Pinkerton future secret service agent for the United States Government.

THE DEATH OF Gov. BURT - The Omaha (Nebraska) Arrow extra, of Oct. 18th, contains the following particulars of Gov. Burt's death: Francis Burt, governor of Nebraska, died at the old Presbyterian Mission House, at Belleview, at about 3½ o'clock this morning, retaining at the last hour a realization of his situation, and surrounded by the friends who accompanied him from his Carolina home. Immediately upon his arrival in 'the territory he was confined to his bed by sickness, occasioned by the long and tedious journey hitherward, commencing, we are informed, upon reaching the limestone country bf Tennessee in his overland journey to Louisville, Ky. Retaining, about an hour previous to his death, a consciousness of his situation, he called his friend, Mr. Doyle; who had accompanied him from South Carolina, to his bedside, and gave such directions concerning his private matters as the urgency of the case seemed to demand,

Doyle became a slave catcher after Burt died and had been chosen to come with Burt to inforce slavery into Nebraska territory where S.F. Nuckolls had established Nebraska City where Burt stopped and spent his first night in the territory. The K. G. C. planned to make Nebraska City the Capitol city but the radical republicans poisoned him before he could name the capitol. The such directions concerning his private matters as the urgency of the case seemed to demand were what put Doyle at the top of the Radical Republicans hit list for Brown.


Think about it, L.C. Baker


"Death of Gov. Francis Burt"
 

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His death, at this time, may be regarded as a national calamity; -- for whatever his political faults, or his errors as a statesman may have been, (and we are among those who believe they were great,) his peculiar relations and exalted position, his firm and manly support of the Union, would have made his name a tower of strength. His services in the Senate and his influence in favor of the right, can, in these perilous times, be illy spared by the nation. It was reported that Mr. Douglas died in Chicago from typhoid fever on June 3, 1861 and that he was buried on the shore of Lake Michigan after his death. Signs and symptoms of typhoid fever are likely to develop gradually — often appearing one to three weeks after exposure to the disease. Senator Douglas escorted Mary Todd Lincoln to the First Inaugural Ball in March 1861. On the first presidential levee, the New York Times reported: “Here one minute, there the next – now congratulating the President, then complimenting Mrs. Lincoln; bowing and scraping and shaking hands, smiling, laughing, yarning, and saluting the people who known him, he was a pleasant sight to behold. He would have been infected around May 14th, 1861. He left after that and traveled most likely by several different modes of transportation the distance of 595 miles from Washington to Chicago. There was ample time and the means to infect him on this journey. Both ill persons and carriers shed Salmonella Typhi in their feces (stool). You can get typhoid fever if you eat food or drink beverages that have been handled by a person who is shedding Salmonella Typhi or if sewage contaminated with Salmonella Typhi bacteria gets into the water you use for drinking or washing food. This method may have been used in the National Hotel Disease case that almost claimed the life of President James Buchanan and killed John Quitman. It is my speculation that Stephen Douglas was killed by those in the U.S. Government that wanted to silence the "little giant".
Once signs and symptoms of typhoid fever do appear, you're likely to experience:
Fever that starts low and increases daily, possibly reaching as high as 104.9 F (40.5 C)
Headache
Weakness and fatigue
Muscle aches
Sweating
Dry cough
Loss of appetite and weight loss
Abdominal pain
Diarrhea or constipation
Rash
Extremely swollen abdomen
Later illness
If you don't receive treatment, you may:
Become delirious
Lie motionless and exhausted with your eyes half-closed in what's known as the typhoid state
In addition, life-threatening complications often develop at this time.
In some people, signs and symptoms may return up to two weeks after the fever has subsided.
The National Hotel epidemic manifested itself as a persistent diarrhea, which was often accompanied by an intense colic. Victims experienced sudden prostration along with nausea. The tongues of patients generally indicated an inflammation of the mucous membranes of their stomachs. Sufferers often complained of recurrences of symptoms even after leaving the National Hotel. Aside from a sudden onset of diarrhea, which happened generally in the early morning, vomiting occurred after the diarrhea ceased. Most people associate colic with crying, fussy infants, but adults can also suffer from a certain type of colic. Biliary colic is a health condition characterized by extreme pain in your upper abdomen. This pain happens when a blockage occurs in part of your biliary system, which includes your gallbladder, bile duct and cystic duc.
Adults with colic typically feel pressure or aches in the upper abdomen. A committee looked into the National Hotel epidemic without finding evidence of water poisoning, food poisoning, or arsenic poisoning. They did not look for biological warfare like drinking water infected with a piece of typhoid infected feces witch I suspect was also the same method of assassination used to kill the first Governor of Nebraska Territory Francis Burt, a slave owner who was appointed by President Franklin Pierce.
Governor Burt was commissioned on August 2, 1854 and left his home in Pendleton for Nebraska City, Nebraska on September 11 on a four week trip to the new territory. ( I am sure he drank water that was handed to him along the way)The new governor had suffered from digestive problems for several years and experienced what was assumed to be an intensification of old symptoms while en route. His medical condition got so bad and he was in so much pain that he spent several days in St. Louis, Missouri under care of a physician before arriving on the 6th of October at Nebraska City where he stayed his first night at the home of K.G.C. brother S.F. Nuckolls home. Upon his October 7 arrival by a horse drawn buggy driven by S.F. Nuckolls who delivered the new Governor to Bellevue he seemed fine but soon after Nuckolls left him there Governor Burt experienced a relapse and was immediately confined to a sick bed in the local Presbyterian mission to the Oto and Omaha. His symptoms were the same as the others.

Just my two cents as always, L.C.:thumbsup:
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This was a very important topic if you wanted rails to come your way and make you richer. It also got Thomas Cumming killed for betrayal, and no amount of corner lots can apease the K.G.C. who had a much larger scheme that he did not know about.(Transcontinental railroad)

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1439&context=greatplainsquarterly

When they say " Nuckolls Nebraska City gang" It was the K.G.C. who was brothers with President Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan and J. Sterling Morton.
 

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Tho, "Transcontinental Railroad" sounds MORE like a O.A.K. "thing"...

The O.A.K. was not born until 1863 Rebel, so the TCR was began in 1861 under a K.G.C. regeme and by the time it was completed on May 10, 1869, and the golden spike was driven at Promontory, Utah it was under an O.A.K. regeme.
 

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Tho, "Transcontinental Railroad" sounds MORE like a O.A.K. "thing"...

The O.A.K. was born in 1863 so the TCR was began in 1861 under a K.G.C. regeme and by the time it was completed on May 10, 1869, and the golden spike was driven at Promontory, Utah it was under an O.A.K. regeme.
 

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