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  1. #41

    Oct 2005
    Maryland
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?


    since its "total freedom"....
    how about the Yorktown battlefields? Lived near them most of my life
    and know the history, just not aloowed thanks to the theives mentioned above!
    And also around the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Lots of tourists dropping clad,
    one of the earliest settled areas for older coins, and then to mention all the lost
    pirate treasures buried around there!
    Noob MDist/Coin Collector/Treasure Seeker

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  3. #42
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    SORRY, I have to take Exception With Running down "Night Hawks, Even tho, I wouldn't Have Guts to do it..

    ? ? ? ? ? ? The Thieves Are The Ones NOT allowing it. They Want it ALL for Themselves & will ONLY allow you to LOOK at some of it "FOR A PRICE" in their little Museums.

    Altho "NIGHT HAWKS" are Sneaking in, and Removing Things, (AND IT IS BREAKING THE LAW),
    SORRY, But, I can't Really Run them into the Ground for it, & I won't.

    ? In? "My PERSONAL (Freedom of speach)? opinion, They are Not Responsable For the Hobby Getting a Bad Name.

    Those Who Search Real PRIVATE PROPERTY,Not Paid for with OUR Tax Dollars, without Permission.
    ? And The Archeologists, are the ones Giving the Hobby a Bad Name.

    Can Someone Tell me HOW, A civil war Gun, Lying under ground, can Belong to all of us, But,
    ONLY IF it stays Rotting under Ground, or in a Drawer in the Basement of an Archeologists house, where Non of us can see or touch it ?

    SORRY FOR MY RANT on a LIGHT HEARTED THREAD.

    ? But as Someone once said.

    ? ? ? ? ? ? "This just Sticks in my Craw"?

    ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? JEFF
    ? ? ? ?

    P.S.
    ? ? ? ? Some of you are Supprising me that SOME of the Place you Mention Are "OFF LIMITS" ?

    HAS anyone EVER actually TRIED to Gain Permission For D.C. ?
    ? ?At LEAST the Area Where The Protests & Beach Boys Played Every Year.

    Once a Year, The "LEGALIZE POT" Rally in D.C. Brought out Thousands Smoking (The way I Hear).

    Why Not a "Legalize Metal Detecting Government Property" Rally, On the White house Lawn, Once a Year, With ALL of us Showing Up WITH our Detectors

    ? ? ? ? ? ?I'm Realy Enjoying this Thread?

  4. #43
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    Oct 2004
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Sure, we can start our own Hall of Fame, like the Baseball, Fottball, Etc. Show the people of this country what we really do and how to properly do it. Admission-one thin silver dime.
    Show the world that we do not go quietly into the night Sorry didn't mean to shout.

    If everyone else can have a rally in D.C., why can't we?

  5. #44
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

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  6. #45
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    Apr 2004
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    On top of the Atocha, El Salvador, Deliverance, SS Central America, 1715 fleet, 1733 fleet, and so on....

  7. #46
    ZumbroKid

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Well, I'd have to say right where i'm at now. Cause i know the area, where all the old buisnesses were once located. The soil conditions and the expected depth of the older coins and relics. I never have to travel far to get in a good spot.

  8. #47
    Kentucky Kache

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbow
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    Jbow, that wishing well that you are looking for is in St. Agustine, Florida.?

    jbot, not jbow. He must be my twin bro. Honest mistake.
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  9. #48
    Kentucky Kache

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff of pa


    ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Why Not a "Legalize Metal Detecting Government Property" Rally, On the White house Lawn, Once a Year, With ALL of us Showing Up WITH our Detectors?

    ? ? ? ? ?
    A million man metal detecting party? Where do I sign up? Man, those coins don't stand a chance.

  10. #49

    Oct 2005
    Maryland
    63

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?


    shoot, i'd show if a rally was held!
    and in case we don't get too many attendee's, why not hold
    it on the same day as another cause, that way we seem larger
    in numbers? Oh, I don't know, maybe the same day the national
    Female Sex Addicts rally is or the national Cheerleaders convention?
    Noob MDist/Coin Collector/Treasure Seeker

  11. #50
    Kentucky Kache

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    I vote for the Cheerleaders convention. Waite a minute, what was that other one?

  12. #51
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Jeff,

    If you think about it, a place you cannot hunt is perfect for a dream hunt. I like the thought of a free for all day for metal detecting, though it would never go. I have to stand behind my statement on Night Hawks they are bottom feeders. They ruin any possibilities for the average metal detector user and the motive is GREED. I would assume most of DC is Federal park lands and as we all no there is no ways to get on it, short of "Night Hawking", Putoowee!
    Keep detecting, Keep finding, Keep digging!

    Ed Donovan

  13. #52
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    Oct 2005
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Getting back to the Night Hawk thing, I wonder if we've ever thought this thing through all the way?

    Some view the Civil War battlefields as sacred and anyone who would dig up anything from those locations is a low life.

    But then I wonder, why is it okay for the government specialists to dig in these same areas?? Or, why are battlefields from one war singled out? What about all the battlefield areas of WWII?? Aren't they also sacred? What about the wars of Rome?

    We all have points of view and reasons for our biases. Personally, I?d have no problem hunting any battlefield site if I had permission to do so. And I might also add, If I knew the area was free of landmines.?
    "Everything is an anomaly" Michigan Badger

  14. #53
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    Aug 2004
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    I would have to agree that any battlefields would be held as sacred to us, the red blooded american. The problem lies with the horribly slanted view of the archies. Many times detectorist have offered to help without predjudice or motive only to be told that " WE DON'T WANT YOU PEOPLE TO TEAR UP OUR SITE!" Well, it looks to me like THEY do a pretty good job of tearing up a site as well. Take the Olympic park out in the mid west. The main part of the complex was to be built over an old fort. When detectorist asked permission they were told no and that they would be arrested if they tried. Archeologist had first dibs. Okay. When the archies were through, still no addmittance to detectorist. Some ingenuitive hunters decided to hunt the piles of dirt being hauled from the site and found bookoo's of goodies. Early shells, pins, coins and so on. If only the archies had let them hunt a bit. Well I have raved enough I suppose.

    By the way my spot would be under the city of Philidephia. Imagine the artifacts from our earliest history as a nation! HH! Chris
    "Today's the day" Mel Fisher
    " Argue for your limitations and they become yours" Abraham Lincoln
    "You just bought WHAT?!!" My wife

  15. #54

    May 2005
    Hampton Roads VA
    Teknetics T2SE
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Well since since I live right near there I would agree on the Yorktown battelfields.

  16. #55

    Jan 2005
    Florida East Coast
    73

    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Don't shoot me, but...
    I was in Austin, TX in the early to mid '80's when I read an article in the paper about an archaeologist surveying a building site for anything historical. It was on the edge of an ancient creekbed. He found a few Indian campsites from somewhere around 5000 years ago. One site in particular was a central site where the Indians would sit around the fire and make their arrowheads and spear points.

    The decision was made that the builder could preserve it by PUTTING A PARKING LOT over it. Yeah. Right.

    My bad, I guess. I went. I dug. I found several very nice chert arrowheads, one spear point and two knives. Not to mention a few burned buffalo teeth.

    Now a parking lot is there. Was I wrong? If so, I'm sorry. Kind of equating it to the battlefield discussion.

    Happy Hunting and Wishful Thinking,
    BobJ
    ClamBob aka He Who Raises Clams...If it looks like a clam, eat it.

  17. #56
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Yes and no . A little cooperation and sensibility from the land owner would have solved everything. I have no ill feelings towards Archaeologist. Some are a little narrow minded. What is not realized is that detectorist would play a part in preservation if allowed. Just a fewpoints.

    1. Most dectectorist hunt to collect not to sell.
    2. They would gladly exchange the loan of finds for showing for the right to hunt.
    3. Most would will or donate some or all of their finds if theydon't have an interested family member or friend to give them to.
    4. Historical societies, federal gov., states are all overlooking a good resource for preservation by have an unfounded negative attitude toward detectorist.

    Ed Donovan
    Keep detecting, Keep finding, Keep digging!

    Ed Donovan

  18. #57
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClamBob
    Don't shoot me, but...
    I was in Austin, TX in the early to mid '80's when I read an article in the paper about an archaeologist surveying a building site for anything historical.? It was on the edge of an ancient creekbed.? He found a few Indian campsites from somewhere around 5000 years ago.? One site in particular was a central site where the Indians would sit around the fire and make their arrowheads and spear points.

    The decision was made that the builder could preserve it by PUTTING A PARKING LOT over it.? Yeah.? Right.

    My bad, I guess.? I went.? I dug.? I found several very nice chert arrowheads, one spear point and two knives.? Not to mention a few burned buffalo teeth.?

    Now a parking lot is there.? Was I wrong?? If so, I'm sorry.? Kind of equating it to the battlefield discussion.

    Happy Hunting and Wishful Thinking,
    BobJ
    Well, all I can say, BEING OPEN MINDED is :

    CONGRATS ON THE FINDS !

  19. #58

    Dec 2004
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    usually the battlefields {protected part} only cover a very small amount of the actual property used in the battles, the rest usually is private property, and often accessable if people are approached right............already did okracoke...................i would have to say i would take colorado mike and kellys instrument and their knowledge using it, along with a trackhoe and a bulldozer, and dig up all of new mexico to a depth of 40 feet, possible deeper..........then i would be off to meet grizzly bare in georgia to hunt some nunnehi and make rocky face ridge a sandbox...................................gldhntr

  20. #59
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    Oct 2005
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    Getting back to the Night Hawkers again, I guess I don't quite understand why they're so terrible.

    Please don?t misunderstand me; I?m not trying to start something. Lots of people young and old read these posts so I think we should be clear.

    I?m taking a natural stance and asking questions so that I can get this all straight in my own mind.

    If Night Hawkers are terrible because they are trespassing, why do I read so many messages on here where people openly admit they found something while trespassing?

    Example: Some person digs an awesome coin on his neighbor?s property (without permission) while his neighbor is gone, etc.

    Example: Some person stops at an abandoned piece of property (without permission) and hunts.

    Or, are Night Hawkers bad because they hunt battlefields? If so, shouldn't we be consistent and refrain from hunting on any battlefield areas (native American, WWII areas, WWI, etc., etc.), which would rule out almost the entire planet. Is a specific battlefield area more sacred because it has been designated as a "park??

    I?m just curious. What specifically is it that makes a Night Hawker evil?
    "Everything is an anomaly" Michigan Badger

  21. #60
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    Re: If You Had Total Freedom To Hunt Anywhere--Where Would You Hunt?

    It all depends on your personal view of right and wrong. The world would not be worse/better off if no one Night Hawked ever again? Would it.

    Ed
    Keep detecting, Keep finding, Keep digging!

    Ed Donovan

 

 
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