Anyone familiar with the Kokoweef Peak story?

[cptbil]

Lab Rat...
Or!
Anyone else who would like to go out and see what we can find! :P
I am planning to spend time this fall, looking for THE! SECOND entrance into the cavern!
I would be glad to have any/some help, research, or, actual in the field help !
Anyone ready and willing to spend time researching or out there?
As I mentioned, ( Reply: Jan. 18, 2005 07:33 AM) I have been working on the Locating and I may have a way to find the SECOND entrance !
No One is going to find it by "shooting the breeze" on the "net" !
Or! By sitting around the house !!
Hey!
Take a chance!
cptbil

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[siborepunk]

have been interested in the subject of kokoweef for some time,have been there several times depending on time of year may be interested in joining you.let me know

[cptbil]

sibor...:
What's your situation/experience(s) ?
Are you able to stay for days, weeks, or ?
Are you equipt for extensive, remote areas camping ?

[siborepunk]

cptbil I am originally from minnesota so i am familur with inclamite weather and campiing. I am also self employed and able to take time of as long as i can plan ahead as far as field experiance im afraid i am green but in good health and am sure i can complete any task required.

[Parangjim]

California Seeker,
Just went back and cheecked my Cussler books. The story in which Pitt took the hovercraft through that subterranean tunnel to the Gulf was Inca Gold. Highly interesting reading, but a stretch to believe. Kokoweef seems to have so many tales that it is hard to deny, almost has to be some element of truth.
jim

[skeptic]

Hi, guys. I'm new to the forum, and am not exactly interested in mining or exploring for treasure, but I stumbled across this site.

My now deceased Grandfather, Lee Snyder, was at one time, the President of "Exploration, Inc." I grew up inside Larry Hahn's Surplus store (which is located at 2908 E. Lake Mead, NLV)

Hahn is a crook, and basically "stole" 60,000 shares of Exploration, Inc from my family after my Grandfather died.


What he likes to do is drill in one place for a certain amount of time, "realize" that it's a dead end, and begin to drill in another spot on the mountain.

Notice that all accounts of Dorr's story say that the entrance to the cave is close to the bottom of the mountain? Does anybody else find it odd that Hahn keeps starting at the top of the mountain and drilling down? These are just some observations I have made.


I think it's great that you guys are looking for the caverns on your own. I'm just warning you not to get involved with Larry Hahn.

[Desertdigger]

Skeptic has the story right, Explorations Inc has a patented claim on the area, they will sell you a share in "Explorations Inc and teach you to hard rock mine and drill and lower cameras in to holes, its a club that has been going on for years just like the Gold Prospectors or Lost Dutchmen but there is always another sucker that will put up his money and join. They have big potlucks and lots of social occasions out there and all kinds of trailers and mining equipment. Check with the Attorney Generals of California and Nevada before investing.I have 24 years experience in all kinds of mining and have done a through investigation of that area years ago. NOW if I can interest you in some gold mines in Mexico lets talk!!!!

[siborepunk]

is there a current web site for explorations inc,reading the last two post makes me wounder how anyone could supposidly sit on top of the cavern for 30 years and still not be able to find it.

[Las Vegas Bob]

I see some nasty rumors that need to be addressed here.

There are no shares being sold.

You can gain shares by donating time (going down and working as a team member not just on your own).

Another way is by donating useful equipment.

Still another is by donating money to the mine operation for equipment repair, fuel, blasting powder etc. etc.

As far as not finding the caverns after looking for 30 years.

Some of that can be blamed on the fact that most of the work is done on a volunteer basis which make's things move very slowly at times.

Don't forget were looking for something inside a mountain, underground. Something out of sight

In a mountain that is riddled with vugs.

You could have one inch of rock wall between you and a passage that leads to the caverns and never know it if you haven't moved that one inch of wall or if your superman with xray vision and he has not come to work with us yet.

We have found caverns, just not the right one.

This is a big mountain with lots of natural openings as well as manmade ones.

Of course we don't just let anyone go down and walk around.

There is not a working mine in the country that is just going to let strangers walk around at thier lesiure.

[cocoweepah]

RE: "is there a current web site for explorations inc,reading the last two post makes me wounder how anyone could supposidly sit on top of the cavern for 30 years and still not be able to find it."

Has anyone thought of why the ancient city of TROY was lost for centuries ... and it was on the surface! Earl 'Dorr's' so-called "entry" was allegedly small and, later, was intentionally hidden. (i.e. easy to hide then / hard to find nearly 80 years later) The "game of whisper" and intentional disinformation and misinterpretations has done the rest to obscure the "missing information."

25 Years of researching, volunteering and living at Kokoweef Peak has taught me a lot about the legend.

So, all you Kokoweef geniuses, do you REALLY believe that good old Earl P. Dorr (a practical miner) would give ANYone the complete and correct information regarding an entry location if:

1. ... the entry was involved with someone else's property, which he couldn't file a "clear 'n clean" mining claim on for legal title?
2. ... he'd set himself up for manslaughter or murder charges if he blasted and left skeletons inside "the only known entrance?"
3. ... he'd maybe implicate other relatives if they had knowledge of blasted and left-behind skeletons inside an "only known entrance?"
4. ... he'd give away $150 billion in gold if his 'free' information enabled others to leave him "in the cold without the gold?"
5. ... The National Park Service's position, even in the 40's, was to PREVENT "monument quality caverns" from falling into private ownership
6. ... World War II SHUT down ALL gold-only mines in America? (Would Earl have left his entry wide open for anyone in the meantime?)

This legend has everything to do with the psychology of imaginations, motivations and deceptions.

There is a BIG difference between BELIEVING in something and KNOWING something.

The Directors and investors in Explorations Inc. of have been sincere in their efforts at Kokoweef Peak.
At worst, they might be accused of inefficiency, but that is often a limiting nature within volunteering efforts and certainly not criminal.
Suckers are ignorant of "something" informationally and most of that can be traced back to Earl Dorr's motivations and deceptions, which were let out into the world of observers to suit his purposes and NOT leave himself disadvantaged.

In my opinion Earl survived to become the "great old gent" his nephew Ray experienced. He was a hot-tempered, young cowboy who escaped history to view and live through World War I, The Great Depression, WW II and the advent of the Atomic Age. People may judge him unkindly, based on unproved 'dasturdly deeds,' but I wasn't there with him. And, eventually, I realized that, as it is for everyone:
"Written descriptions by sideline observers are not living experiences."

[cptbil]

LabRat:
What's happening?
Are you still interested in going out?
I'll be over that way, Kokoweef, in June!
Care to meet up ?

[BeginAgain]

RE: "is there a current web site for explorations inc,reading the last two post makes me wounder how anyone could supposidly sit on top of the cavern for 30 years and still not be able to find it."

Has anyone thought of why the ancient city of TROY was lost for centuries ... and it was on the surface! Earl 'Dorr's' so-called "entry" was allegedly small and, later, was intentionally hidden. (i.e. easy to hide then / hard to find nearly 80 years later) The "game of whisper" and intentional disinformation and misinterpretations has done the rest to obscure the "missing information."

25 Years of researching, volunteering and living at Kokoweef Peak has taught me a lot about the legend.

So, all you Kokoweef geniuses, do you REALLY believe that good old Earl P. Dorr (a practical miner) would give ANYone the complete and correct information regarding an entry location if:

1. ... the entry was involved with someone else's property, which he couldn't file a "clear 'n clean" mining claim on for legal title?
2. ... he'd set himself up for manslaughter or murder charges if he blasted and left skeletons inside "the only known entrance?"
3. ... he'd maybe implicate other relatives if they had knowledge of blasted and left-behind skeletons inside an "only known entrance?"
4. ... he'd give away $150 billion in gold if his 'free' information enabled others to leave him "in the cold without the gold?"
5. ... The National Park Service's position, even in the 40's, was to PREVENT "monument quality caverns" from falling into private ownership
6. ... World War II SHUT down ALL gold-only mines in America? (Would Earl have left his entry wide open for anyone in the meantime?)

This legend has everything to do with the psychology of imaginations, motivations and deceptions.

There is a BIG difference between BELIEVING in something and KNOWING something.

The Directors and investors in Explorations Inc. of have been sincere in their efforts at Kokoweef Peak.
At worst, they might be accused of inefficiency, but that is often a limiting nature within volunteering efforts and certainly not criminal.
Suckers are --deleted-- of "something" informationally and most of that can be traced back to Earl Dorr's motivations and deceptions, which were let out into the world of observers to suit his purposes and NOT leave himself disadvantaged.

In my opinion Earl survived to become the "great old gent" his nephew Ray experienced. He was a hot-tempered, young cowboy who escaped history to view and live through World War I, The Great Depression, WW II and the advent of the Atomic Age. People may judge him unkindly, based on unproved 'dasturdly deeds,' but I wasn't there with him. And, eventually, I realized that, as it is for everyone:
"Written descriptions by sideline observers are not living experiences."

Was the claim sold to Mayan Gold Inc.? I grew up in Vegas going to church with two of the current major shareholders in the Kokoweef claim, haven't talked to them in years though. I had heard a rumor and read something online a while back that Utah based Mayan Gold, Inc. was interested in purchasing the claim. This is interesting since I am well aware of their successful ventures in Honduras and elsewhere... just curious what's new with Kokoweef. Being a Vegas desert rat, this legend has always fascinated me.