Long range locater way back in early 1990's

[Darke]

I just figured there MUST be Devine intervention when using them. I mean, those rods ARE called DEVINING rods, aren't they? (OMG, I found something!) TTC

It's also called witching so it might not be divine intervention(depends on your religion). Awww man there isn't a Satan smiley?

 

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[Darke]

Thanks, I scrolled right past it.

 

[diggerdeeper]

Year's ago, the guy I worked for claimed he could find water with a pair of pliers.
I didn't believe him, so he grabbed an old pair of pliers and went outside into the drive way.
Holding one half of the pliers in each hand and having the most serious look of concentration,he walked over a water puddle and threw the pliers in and said- SEE !!!
The funniest thing I ever saw.

But seriously, go on YouTube and look this up. There's numerous videos concerning the veracity of the dowsing process.
For example--

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I just figured there MUST be Devine intervention when using them. I mean, those rods ARE called DEVINING rods, aren't they? (OMG, I found something!) TTC

What is very fun, is to watch the "back and forth" action when the proponents try to explain how they work.

a) On the one hand, they will try to distance themselves from any supernatural. Because if they rely on THAT as their explanation, then ... immediately .... they enter into the realm of hocus pocus, mystical, religion, faith, spirits, etc....

b) So they will hop back and forth over the fence and say that there's something scientific going on (hey, they've got batteries and wires after all, right ? Or even if they're just coat-hangers, they will try to describe some sort of "attraction" going on, blah blah, as if there's science to it).

And the moment you try to pin them down on one explanation, they'll hop back over the fence to the other explanation. Quite comical.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... There's numerous videos concerning the veracity of the dowsing process.
For example--

Great link. Loved to watch that. And the end (from 3:45 onwards) was predictable: The results don't dent the dowser's confidence. WTF ??

Oh wait:

a) The tests weren't fair. They were rigged in some way.

b) Durned those sunspots anyhow.

c) Bad vibes given off by the skeptical tester (who no doubt had a magnet hidden in his pocket) were messing up the test results.

 

[TerryC]

What is very fun, is to watch the "back and forth" action when the proponents try to explain how they work.

a) On the one hand, they will try to distance themselves from any supernatural. Because if they rely on THAT as their explanation, then ... immediately .... they enter into the realm of hocus pocus, mystical, religion, faith, spirits, etc....

b) So they will hop back and forth over the fence and say that there's something scientific going on (hey, they've got batteries and wires after all, right ? Or even if they're just coat-hangers, they will try to describe some sort of "attraction" going on, blah blah, as if there's science to it).

And the moment you try to pin them down on one explanation, they'll hop back over the fence to the other explanation. Quite comical.

Stan, a friend in Murphys CA surely believes in dowsing. He showed me an area just south of Judy's place on BLM that he dowsed and said there is a billion in gold underneath..... but he won't go after it because it would cost millions to recover. DUH!! Nobody breaking speed records to help him recover it! TTC

 

[Darke]

What is very fun, is to watch the "back and forth" action when the proponents try to explain how they work.

a) On the one hand, they will try to distance themselves from any supernatural. Because if they rely on THAT as their explanation, then ... immediately .... they enter into the realm of hocus pocus, mystical, religion, faith, spirits, etc....

b) So they will hop back and forth over the fence and say that there's something scientific going on (hey, they've got batteries and wires after all, right ? Or even if they're just coat-hangers, they will try to describe some sort of "attraction" going on, blah blah, as if there's science to it).

And the moment you try to pin them down on one explanation, they'll hop back over the fence to the other explanation. Quite comical.

Micron gold. It messes with everything be it scalar waves, orgone or NMR. You'd think people who can build meters to measure these waves when no "mainstream scientist"(read - legit science field lol) would be able to conquer that pesky problem. Of course if you don't use those special crystal containing transistors the scalar waves won't operate correctly either. Ahhh life is so difficult for those poor LRL scientists.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

What they need is an "eighth wave" generator to levitate the gold up to where you can pluck it out of the air rather than have to dig for it.


Hmmmmm.

Send $20 for Charlie P's bag of Magic Eighth Wave Pixie Dust which will levitate gold if you do it right and really, really believe.

 

[Darke]

What they need is an "eighth wave" generator to levitate the gold up to where you can pluck it out of the air rather than have to dig for it.


Hmmmmm.

Send $20 for Charlie P's bag of Magic Eighth Wave Pixie Dust which will levitate gold if you do it right and really, really believe.

Do you take bitcoin?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... said there is a billion in gold underneath.....

And let me guess : The burden of proof will be on you to prove the gold isn't there. The burden of proof won't be on him to prove that it is there.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Micron gold.....

Durned that micron gold anyhow ! I'm not sure which is more of a nuisance : the micron gold or the sunspots.

 

[jeff of pa]

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[Darke]

Durned that micron gold anyhow ! I'm not sure which is more of a nuisance : the micron gold or the sunspots.

I actually tried to get a large sample of the soils that supposedly contained micron gold during dowsing testing to refine. You can imagine how well that went.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

I actually tried to get a large sample of the soils that supposedly contained micron gold during dowsing testing to refine. You can imagine how well that went.

If you couldn't refine or detect the gold in the soil, it would only mean that you're not doing it right. Or that it's undiscovered science. But rest assured.: The soil is causing the dowsing test to fail. It's not that the dowsing itself doesn't work.

 

[macronova]

Hard to say. There were several Companies Making them.
All were outrageously Priced imo .
I Personally Doubted their Ability to Locate anything But Buyers.

Though there were/are some who Swear they work.

Personally I Think they work as well as a Pair of Dowsing Rods.

And only for those who Can also get Dowsing Rods to work For Them.

(a Psychic Thing )

I Knew an Old Gentleman. As Long as I Knew Him ,
He was looking for a Cache in the Town he was Born in.
His Dads Cache I Think.
(Ghost Town Now) Every time a New Better Detector came Out He bought it.

Long Story, Shortened . He swore LRL's work.
Even inferred he Had one. Yet he never Found the Cache with it so

Yes, they are all ultimately dowsing devices. I've seen them work with my own eyes. If you believe it works and do not doubt, it will work. But a lot of things can interfere with your results. I usually refer to it as mental baggage connected to certain things you may be looking for. The purity of your desire to find the thing you seek is always the determining factor. This is why so many dowsers fail "dowsing tests" and probably why that gentleman never found his dad's cache. When you're trying to pass a dowsing test or trying to find something that you already know too much about, the desire is no longer pure, your mind and the thought form of what it is you seek is already polluted. During the test, you're focused too much on passing and performing for onlookers. While searching for your dad's cache, there's way too much emotion and irrelevant mental imagery attached to the hunt. Its a science that is simple yet extremely complex at the same time. One day I hope we fully understand it. Certain discoveries in the quantum physics realm come close to giving explanation.

 

[Darke]

Yes, they are all ultimately dowsing devices. I've seen them work with my own eyes. If you believe it works and do not doubt, it will work. But a lot of things can interfere with your results. I usually refer to it as mental baggage connected to certain things you may be looking for. The purity of your desire to find the thing you seek is always the determining factor. This is why so many dowsers fail "dowsing tests" and probably why that gentleman never found his dad's cache. When you're trying to pass a dowsing test or trying to find something that you already know too much about, the desire is no longer pure, your mind and the thought form of what it is you seek is already polluted. During the test, you're focused too much on passing and performing for onlookers. While searching for your dad's cache, there's way too much emotion and irrelevant mental imagery attached to the hunt. Its a science that is simple yet extremely complex at the same time. One day I hope we fully understand it. Certain discoveries in the quantum physics realm come close to giving explanation.

I too have seen recoveries by dowsing and there are thousands of faith and metaphysical based feats throughout history but unfortunately correlation does not equal causation. This also bring us back to what Tom said about LRL/dowsing proponents wanting to distance themselves from faith or psychic based phenomena. Pseudoscience or just outright lies seem to be preferred in those scenarios. There will probably never be a large enough test of the population to determine any complete debunking of this type of phenomena. And even of their was it wouldn't change the personal beliefs of most people no matter the evidence. Flat earthers are prime example of this.

In quantum physics if you accept M-theory then the dowsing device would somehow have to become a brane to function the way it is believed to. Whether humans can access 4th or higher dimensions without some type of augmentation would also have to brought into play.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

..... If you believe it works and do not doubt, it will work....

Except in double-blind controlled tests.

..... But a lot of things can interfere with your results.....

Correct. And take your pick of which one get rolled out the moment dowsing fails. Sunspots, micro-gold, mental baggage, impure desire, too much emotion, etc....

..... Its a science that is simple yet extremely complex at the same time. One day I hope we fully understand it. Certain discoveries in the quantum physics realm come close to giving explanation.

Yup, there it is. I love that line the best: "Unexplained science" . I could make a claim that a peanut butter and jelly sandwich can find gold too. If someone tried to say "that's silly and illogical", I merely have to say: "It's unexplained science".

 

[Darke]

Yup, there it is. I love that line the best: "Unexplained science" . I could make a claim that a peanut butter and jelly sandwich can find gold too. If someone tried to say "that's silly and illogical", I merely have to say: "It's unexplained science".

So if you eat the gold finding sandwich does that mean you'll have a gut feeling where the gold is?

 

[jeff of pa]

Yes, they are all ultimately dowsing devices. I've seen them work with my own eyes. If you believe it works and do not doubt, it will work. But a lot of things can interfere with your results. I usually refer to it as mental baggage connected to certain things you may be looking for. The purity of your desire to find the thing you seek is always the determining factor. This is why so many dowsers fail "dowsing tests" and probably why that gentleman never found his dad's cache. When you're trying to pass a dowsing test or trying to find something that you already know too much about, the desire is no longer pure, your mind and the thought form of what it is you seek is already polluted. During the test, you're focused too much on passing and performing for onlookers. While searching for your dad's cache, there's way too much emotion and irrelevant mental imagery attached to the hunt. Its a science that is simple yet extremely complex at the same time. One day I hope we fully understand it. Certain discoveries in the quantum physics realm come close to giving explanation.

I Purchased a simple Pair of Dowsing rods on Ebay earlier this Year.



Been too Lazy/Embarrassed/Forgetful depending on area to Pull them out & Try them.
My Big Problem is I don't Know How to get them to Search for a Gold Ring, Silver Coin, or Water.

in an other word discrimination. on a pair of Rods ?
because of that, I feel it's a Total waste of my Time To even Consider them as Viable For Me.

I May actually purchase A pair with handles to make them easier to Balance
By next Spring though, Because I Am Curious.


but I still will need to convince myself to try even though I'd be going in Blind.

Same with LRL's. I am not saying they are a Scam. I Won't go that Far.
Too many I Do Respect insist they work. Just saying I Don't feel any Personal Confidence
they would work for me.

If I ever Catch an LRL at an Auction for under $20 Bucks, I'd Grab it.
Over that, Would depend on how badly the Money I Have is Burning a Hole in my Debit Card