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    Quote Originally Posted by gollum View Post

    The Yavapai ARE Apache. I go in every res housing almost every day. They are called "The Yavapai Apache Nation". I'll drop a pic today.

    Hi Mike,

    Thanks...I'm aware of the POLITICAL issues surrounding the reservation being named "Yavapai-Apache" in the 1900's...and as Joe pointed out, they've intermarried to a large degree and are basically joined at the hip today...however, in Waltz's day, they were allies and neighbors, but they were of different genetic stock (the "PAI" peoples were there for a long time before the Athapascans were), they had different home ranges, they spoke different languages, and were in fact different people from different places. Americans started calling them Apaches back in the day, because they didn't know any better.

    Yes, I'm aware that Montezuma's headstone says he was an Apache, etc. etc...that is an Anglo construct that they just learned to accept, just like some learned to accept the name "Apache" when their name was actually phonetically spoken as "N'Deh"...but, the Yavapai that roamed the Supes, attacked the miners in the Bradshaws, etc., never considered themselves Apache, but put up with it after they were few in number and had no input as to what white folks and their government called them...What are/were called Yavapai-Apache and Apache-Mohave are actually different people, who were not Apaches...take care, Jim
    Last edited by PotBelly Jim; Jan 02, 2019 at 09:22 AM.


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