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    GARRY CUNDIFF'S SITE BACK ONLINE

    Not sure if this is against the rules, but Garry Cundiff's site is back up. It's a great source of information on the LDM legend.

    http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~gcund...n/Dutchman.htm

    Good luck,

    Joe Ribaudo
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    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

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    Thanks Cactusjumper

    I'll check it out

    wrmickel1
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    More general Stone Map BS from that site.

    It's a waste of time.

    Just like RG did for 3 years. Nothing positive came out of it. .

    To bad all these people wasted their time on Travis. He just wasn't worth it.

    I should know because I was one of them!
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    I found the Reed letters interesting. Especially the part where he’s talking about up in the Iron Mountain,Rough Canyon area where there’s some caves that you don’t hear much about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Riley View Post
    More general Stone Map BS from that site.

    It's a waste of time.

    Just like RG did for 3 years. Nothing positive came out of it. .

    To bad all these people wasted their time on Travis. He just wasn't worth it.

    I should know because I was one of them!
    Bill,

    I would say you are the real expert here.

    On the other hand, Garry has done some great work and quite unselfishly shared it with all of us.

    Good luck,

    Joe
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    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Riley View Post
    More general Stone Map BS from that site.

    It's a waste of time.

    Just like RG did for 3 years. Nothing positive came out of it. .

    To bad all these people wasted their time on Travis. He just wasn't worth it.

    I should know because I was one of them!
    Well I'm sorry for your waste of mind, Bill
    But I'm sure the Time was not wasted, Weather a Healthier you or a new direction seen with your boots on the ground, have always been a benefit for me. Now to waste your mind on a con man, Well!
    From Ryan To Frank with a known place that Travis spent his time at. Has no bearing on weather the maps are fake. Unless you believe Travis was in the right place. Then I would assume the other hundred people who claimed they solved them like
    Ryan and Frank to Joe toooooooooooooo

    Wrmickel1
    Last edited by wrmickel1; Jan 28, 2019 at 03:31 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Well I'm sorry for your waste of mind, Bill
    But I'm sure the Time was not wasted, Weather a Healthier you or a new direction seen with your boots on the ground, have always been a benefit for me. Now to waste your mind on a con man, Well!
    From Ryan To Frank with a known place that Travis spent his time at. Has no bearing on weather the maps are fake. Unless you believe Travis was in the right place. Then I would assume the other hundred people who claimed they solved them like
    Ryan and Frank to Joe toooooooooooooo

    Wrmickel1
    Wrm,

    To be clear, I never paid much attention to the early information on the Stone Maps, or what others have dug up since. My conclusions are based entirely on the maps themselves, and what I found on the ground.

    Good luck,

    Joe
    " Hell, I was there!" Elmer Keith
    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

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    Thanks for letting us know Joe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco View Post
    Thanks for letting us know Joe.
    Hi Roy, Beth and assorted hounds,

    I have been checking on the site every since it was shut down. Finally had success. Hope all is well.

    Take care,

    Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusjumper View Post
    Not sure if this is against the rules, but Garry Cundiff's site is back up. It's a great source of information on the LDM legend.

    Lost Dutchman Mine Documents

    Good luck,

    Joe Ribaudo
    Joe, just FYI since the link you posted does not have a forum nor is it selling, in my opinion it does not violate our rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusjumper View Post
    Bill,

    I would say you are the real expert here.

    On the other hand, Garry has done some great work and quite unselfishly shared it with all of us.

    Good luck,

    Joe
    Thank you!

    I guess I am Joe!

    Anyone can become an expert on "Fake Maps carved by fraudulent means" all you have to do is read what the FBI said about the maps. Once you do that you become an instant "Expert" on carved fakes.
    When it comes to spending time researching the stone maps Gary has me out gunned. You're right though, Gary has unselfishly given us research which I read many years ago when the site was up. As with me, I'm sure at some time or another you've Patronized him as you do so casually to others on here. As I see it you're the "Expert" at doing such.

    Keep up the good work!

    May the Waltz force be with you,

    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Well I'm sorry for your waste of mind, Bill
    But I'm sure the Time was not wasted, Weather a Healthier you or a new direction seen with your boots on the ground, have always been a benefit for me. Now to waste your mind on a con man, Well!
    From Ryan To Frank with a known place that Travis spent his time at. Has no bearing on weather the maps are fake. Unless you believe Travis was in the right place. Then I would assume the other hundred people who claimed they solved them like
    Ryan and Frank to Joe toooooooooooooo

    Wrmickel1
    Frank and Ryan know more about Travis than we all do I would assume.

    At any given time in the Superstitions I would dare say there is at least four or five expeditions going on with groups that claimed to have found the end of the stone map trail. I'm privy to at least 3 of them right now. One large and two small clandestine groups all saying they've found the key. One group even claims that Ryan is with in site of their trove of unknown substance. In case anyone doesn't know it on the Tonto National Forest website it gives the seven steps to filing a Treasure Trove Permit. On the second step it says in plain writing if you're filing for the Lost Dutchman Mine or the Peralta Stone Maps your permit will get denied right then and there! So anyone that gets caught doing such will be thrown out of the range.
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    Common Reasons for Denial
    :

    • Any proposal determined to be “inappropriate use of System lands” or venue is better suited for non-federally owned lands. Proponent may be required to provide proof of efforts exploring alternatives prior submission.
    • Non-issued categories:
      • Treasure Trove — i.e.: Lost Dutchman Mine, Spanish Gold
      • Merchandise or Food Vendor — i.e.: Hot dog carts, Taco trucks
      • Service Provider - i.e.: Watercraft repair, watercraft rentals and delivery
      • Shuttle Services — i.e.: River tubing transport

    I stand corrected. It says "Spanish Gold" not the stone maps. But I believe at one time we had a Forest Service officer on here that said if you approached them with any stone map theories it would fall in the "Spanish Gold" category.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Riley View Post
    I stand corrected. It says "Spanish Gold" not the stone maps. But I believe at one time we had a Forest Service officer on here that said if you approached them with any stone map theories it would fall in the "Spanish Gold" category.
    anyone that tries to get a treasure trove permit in the supers is in for years of red tape and b.s. ..in other words it ain't gonna happen..but you will go broke trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    anyone that tries to get a treasure trove permit in the supers is in for years of red tape and b.s. ..in other words it ain't gonna happen..but you will go broke trying
    I do agree to a point, Dave.
    Going broke even if you were granted a permit is pretty much, what would happen anyway.
    But I do think if one had solid proof the maps are real they would grant a permit to examine early America Anglo life in the America's.

    Wrmickel1

 

 
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