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  1. #31

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    In the early 1990s, I was planning a detecting trip, to ruins and pueblos in the high mountains and deserts of Mexico. Talked to a few metal detecting club buddies about the plans, and got very similar sounding admonitions. Ie.: questions of "is it legal there ?" and "can you cross the border?" and "don't do it, corruption in rampant, laws invented on the spot, etc...."

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Try storing your detector in the luggage and go detecting in Cuba. Oh right you can't go there and if you did it's illegal to detect. I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to your GREY logical answers when trying to explain it looking out of a cold damp cement room.
    Hi pepperj, the topic here is Romania. Not cuba. By all means Cuba is an interesting one as well. It's come up on other threads as I recall. And ... sure .... perhaps some country does indeed have such a rule, border to border, even mere possession. If you start a thread about Cuba, I'd chime in on that. But this is about Romania.

    And everything else you say (about the 'cold damp cement room jail', etc...) is all true, if we start with a simple premise: That detecting there is illegal. If that's true, then sure: everything else you say does indeed logically follow. Ok, I'll bite: Got a reference or link to the law ?
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Hi pepperj, the topic here is Romania. Not cuba. By all means Cuba is an interesting one as well. It's come up on other threads as I recall. And ... sure .... perhaps some country does indeed have such a rule, border to border, even mere possession. If you start a thread about Cuba, I'd chime in on that. But this is about Romania.

    And everything else you say (about the 'cold damp cement room jail', etc...) is all true, if we start with a simple premise: That detecting there is illegal. If that's true, then sure: everything else you say does indeed logically follow. Ok, I'll bite: Got a reference or link to the law ?
    No just from asking when I went there, simple no, and a extra look through the screening area.
    Saying to just throw something into the checked luggage doesn't give somebody the green light to bring the detector into a country.
    If some customs agent likes the device there's no jumping up and down that will get it back. Seriously who is going to start arguing with a person that has the potential to be a hard arse and throw ones butt in a cell.
    Travelled enough to know that the person stamping the passport is the ruler of my well being at that moment. Life can be easy or hard at that very moment.
    Have you ever been through a customs check where the flag/emblem on the passport means the difference between a smile or getting the toothpaste squeezed from the tube?
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  4. #34
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    Ireland also has some very strict laws, NO Metal detecting! We seem to be so used to hearing of Great finds in the UK, but Ireland is Not the UK. I have an Irish buddy that told me it was not allowed, but I wasnt quite sure, so just checked it out. Sweden is another country that has strict laws. You need permission from the county, and need to have maps of where you intend to hunt, and im sure you would lose your detector, if you came up with a story of looking for your grannies lost ring.
    As far as shipping your detector, and have it waiting for you, when you arrive, you might
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  5. #35
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    As far as shipping your detector, and have it waiting for you, when you get there, you might have a big tax bill waiting for you, or it could be delayed or lost. Yes, im a pessimist, especially when dealing with boarder formalities, too much can go wrong!
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  6. #36
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    Im surprised, that no one has just googled Metal detecting in Romania, and any other country that may be of interest.

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    No just from asking when I went there, simple no, ....
    Ok, I think we have 2 issues going on in the discussion : 1) a metal detector in your luggage, versus 2) the act of metal detecting when you get there.

    It seems that your post #33 is addressing the import/luggage issue. Right ? If so: did their answer come via your A) asking ahead of time : "Can I bring a metal detector in my luggage?", or was that B) a routine inspection that all airline travelers get, where you stated that you had a detector ?

    If it was via (B), then I agree no one can argue with that. Even if arbitrary and based on no actual rule, I agree that you'd be on the loosing end of trying to argue with them. However if it was via (A), then perhaps you were the latest victim of "no one cared till you ask?" psychology ? I dunno.
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  8. #38

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    But back to the issue of detecting , in general, in Romania, here's a new bug for you guys: I just did a search on Minelab, Fisher, and Whites for their dealer listings around the world. Minelab & Whites have dealers in Romania. Fisher has at least two listed in Romania.

    Ok, I'll bite: If a detector can't arrive by airline, then ...... how did the detector get to those dealers/distributors ? Driven across the border ? Ok, fine, then what's to stop you from driving in from another part of Europe ? The mere fact these distributors/dealers can get their stock there, shows they HAD to enter the country SOMEHOW, right ?

    And this also comes back to the other question of : Is detecting legal there in the first place. Uh ... how could there be dealers there, if you can't use them ? I mean *presumably* they're being sold for lawful purposes, eh ?

  9. #39
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    I think the answer is a simple one, don't do it!

  10. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by maipenrai View Post
    Im surprised, that no one has just googled Metal detecting in Romania, and any other country that may be of interest.
    Maipenrai, I have done this over and over, whenever the subject of various countries comes up. And ... humorously ... you will invariably find people who've detected there. And someone else coming on and saying "I thought it was illegal there?". The md'r might say "we asked at the hotel and they said 'go ahead' " . Or "we never had a problem", etc...

    And as for this thread: Yes I googled that. And yes I found ample posts of persons doing show & tell from Romania. Even youtube videos. But this will always fall on deaf ears for the skittish folks: They will just say something like "maybe they didn't get caught" etc.... But at a certain point, if there are hobbyists (not hiding) and dealers, you have to ask yourself if you're not over-thinking it.

  11. #41
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    Of course, you could always just take your detector, go detecting, and tell us how big the fine was, and did they take your detector. If you do a little time, then when your out, you can tell how you liked it. I had a bit longer reply, but accidentally deleted it.

  12. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by maipenrai View Post
    Of course, you could always just take your detector, go detecting, and tell us how big the fine was, and did they take your detector. If you do a little time, then when your out, you can tell how you liked it. I had a bit longer reply, but accidentally deleted it.
    maipenrai, I repeat: Everything you're saying is true, when we start with the assumption it's illegal. No one's shown that yet. Why do you keep starting with this premise ? If it's true, then by all means: Everything you're saying logically follows. But let's answer the starting premise first.

    And you have not addressed the contrary evidence I point out in posts # 38 and 40: That there are dealers and hobbyists there. How can that be ? Did they face fines and confiscations that you say are imminent ?

  13. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Ok, I think we have 2 issues going on in the discussion : 1) a metal detector in your luggage, versus 2) the act of metal detecting when you get there.

    It seems that your post #33 is addressing the import/luggage issue. Right ? If so: did their answer come via your A) asking ahead of time : "Can I bring a metal detector in my luggage?", or was that B) a routine inspection that all airline travelers get, where you stated that you had a detector ?

    If it was via (B), then I agree no one can argue with that. Even if arbitrary and based on no actual rule, I agree that you'd be on the loosing end of trying to argue with them. However if it was via (A), then perhaps you were the latest victim of "no one cared till you ask?" psychology ? I dunno.
    It's always better to ask for permission than to ask for forgiveness when showing up at customs without the permission. The permission better be in writing from a gov't official and not a verbal one.
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  14. #44
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    Dealers there might be, but who do they sell to, maybe they sell to someone that has a permit for detecting. I really dont know, but if I was the OP, I would ask someone that was in the know. He will have a rough time, if he goes with his detector, and they stop him at customs, and he says, Tom told me I could take my detector!
    If he ships it, he may have to pay import tax or have it confiscated. If he takes it in his luggage, maybe they will check, maybe not. I have taken my detector through Thai customs many times, no one checked, and I usually had my sales receipt, just in case. If in Romania, you need a permit to use a detector, then the OP doesnt have a permit. Now what is he going to do.
    Detecting for raw gold in Thailand is only allowed for Thais, but dealers sell gold detectors to anyone that has the money. Of course I could be detecting in a river and just say Im looking for coins, now if someone believes me, thats good, if not, maybe I have problems.
    Kinda like hunting in Cali, at a park where detecting is not allowed, and when someone ask, just say Im looking for my wifes ring!

  15. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    It's always better to ask for permission than ....
    Ok, then it was option A. You inquired ahead and got told "no metal detector in your suitcase". Might have been the "no one cared till you asked" psychology. Who knows. I wonder if ... whomever rendered that opinion, had it based in any actual airline rules that truly said "no metal detectors" ? Because as pointed out in post # 38: Detectors are entering the country. I wonder how they get there, if not allowed on flights ? Perhaps being driven in ? Presto: fly into the neighboring airport, and drive in with detector ?
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