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  1. #16
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    It is what it is, until it "Is" what it is.

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    Deep, this is without doubt the best thread I've read on here in years!
    Awesome!
    Stay Gold!
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  2. #17
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    Feb 2019
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    Great post. Just one question, what did you do for ten minutes in a corner to gain permisson? Sounds a little disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70ss454 View Post
    Great post. Just one question, what did you do for ten minutes in a corner to gain permisson? Sounds a little disturbing.
    Kind of a strange question and comment, but I'll answer it for you.
    I was riding around Sheldon(if you want to know where it is, look it up)looking for sites, came across a man cutting his 2 acre yard on a riding lawnmower. On this yard was a kinda new million dollar house and a Confederate camp and later a union camp.
    I stopped and asked if it was ok to metal detect his yard. The yard was not yet established and he was cutting more weeds than grass.
    He considered awhile and said he preferred not. While he was considering I was looking around the yard and saw a piece in the corner(if you don't know what a corner is,google it) of the lot that had been tilled for a garden. I pointed to the garden and asked if he would give 10 minutes to detect there and show him how I worked.
    After some thought,he agreed. 10 minutes, 2 eagle buttons and a knapsack buckle, later I stopped him on his lawnmower and showed him what I had found, offered him a button and the buckle, which he had no interest in and thanked him and asked him if he would reconsider. At that point he gave me the ok to do(metal detect) his yard.
    To answer you question of what I did in the corner was, showed the owner I cared for his property by covering my holes, made 3 nice finds and built his trust by showing him what I found.
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    If it's old, I'll dig it, dive on it, detect it or sometimes when I get lucky just bend over and pick it up.

    "Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result" Winston Churchill

    The truth I do not stretch or shove
    When I state that the dog is full of love.
    I've also found, by actual test,
    A wet dog is the lovingest.
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  4. #19
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    Jan 2019
    NC
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    It's frustrating.
    Years ago I used to fish and hunt regularly. It got so bad that idiots ruined it for me. They would go in without permission, leave trash and garbage everywhere, throw fish up on the banks to die, go "4 wheelin" and tear up land.
    The Land owners got tired of it, and although I was not the offender, they still painted me with the same brush- NOBODY has permission anymore they said. Was deeply upset over it for a couple reasons. #1- someone came in and abused/mistreated a nice person's property. #2- the fact I got booted out for nothing I did.
    In light of that and people being dangerous/stupid I stopped hunting. And due to a-holes ruining all my fishing permissions I stopped that too.

    Well today we have a different bunch out in the lands. They are worse than the old ones back in the 90's. Not only do they trespass and destroy property they try to blame it on everyone else.
    So here is my take on the situaton.. Ask for permission and emphasize you care about their property(and if you can't truly say this and mean it you don't need to detect in anyone else's land). SHOW them you mean it. If you see something strange or funny TELL them about it. If you do not tell them it is possibly you can kiss that place goodbye. Treat the property as your own. Respect the owner. If you can't do that in my opinion please get yourself out of metal detecting and take up something else so you don't ruin it for all of us that use this as a release, exercise, and fun. Take up Golf or something-forget about metal detecting!
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  5. #20
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    Jan 2019
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70ss454 View Post
    Great post. Just one question, what did you do for ten minutes in a corner to gain permisson? Sounds a little disturbing.
    Maybe he showed the land owner he wasn't an IDIOT.
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  6. #21

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    In the words of John Leguizamo “It’s not who you know....It’s who you yes”
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  7. #22
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    That is a great post, Deep1! I have had the same arguments with ego for many years. Guess I'm going t have a sit down talk with Jack, Jim or/and Johnny to trick ego into leaving. I have many times wanted to search a yard or property, but ego kept me away. Like you say, I wasn't detecting it before and didn't ask and I'm still not detecting it today!
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    I’m glad that I had a chance to revisit this post ArfieBoy. One of the top posts IMHO.
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    Rich

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    WOW, I frown on reading long posts, but I read yours. You've put things in perspective. I liked it, very true & enlightening. The best of treasure hunting to you.
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  10. #25
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    "Is that a Geiger Counter?"

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    Years ago (and in a prior recession) I had the opportunity to have a personnel manager from a publicshing scompany as an adjunt instructor in an evening class I was taking. He was a Lou Grant type (for those that remember Ed Asner - the voice of Carl in Up! for the rest of you). His recommendation when applying for jobs was to make it a challenge to collect as many "no's" as you could. That's a good policy.

    Don't get upset or take it personally - just move on and keep at it. Even if you get five "no's" a week you likely will get one "yes" every month.
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  11. #26

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    Dang that was some great positivity in my day. Great job
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