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  1. #1
    ca
    Jun 2018
    Victoria, BC
    White's Treasure Master and a Makro Kruzer
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Grumble

    I'm no longer a new detectorist and I know more about what happens when you're out detecting and what you find and the hoops you jump through to keep the hobby fun. I would really wish that YouTubers who make their detecting videos... who fill them with hit after hit after hit of coins, rings and nothing but treasure do a bit of truth in advertising.

    Detecting just ain't like that... not at all. You might have a run... a day or two of finding some good finds but for the most part you're finding spare clad, pop cans and pull tabs with the occasional foil and iron bits. (your finds will vary depending on where you are) Please oh please video makers... do like some of the better 'tubers do and show your days take... show the mountain of crap that you dug to find your handfull of pretty shiny things. I have a few friends who are frustrated beyond belief because they got into the hobby with the hope of going out and finding... something... not garbage and not necessarily treasure but something fun... and they don't get why it doesn't work that way. I've had them out with me and they consider me the anomaly... the fact that my big find is a dinky toy makes them scoff and say it's cause I'm still new or that my machine is garbage or that I just don't know how to do it right. They don't get a few things... if there isn't anything to find... you're not going to find it, if you're in a high traffic, high detected area... you're not likely to find gold bullion. And if the machine you buy is high end with enough bells and whistles to find the fillings in your teeth... then don't blame me when it stumps you as to how to use it as a new user. Not my fault... I watched videos on how to and spent a good hand full of hours getting used to the bleeps, bloops and whee's that my machine makes and what they most likely mean. Didn't just step in and find the motherload... not even sure what the motherload actually looks like... but all this... all my blather... just boils down to... please those of you who are going to be guiding the newbs... make sure it's a ring of truth that you put into your videos... not just the gold rings.

    thanks.

  2. #2

    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
    Explorer II, Compass 77b, Tesoro shadow X2
    13,525
    9859 times
    Banner Finds (4)
    When my hunt partner & I make videos, we MAKE SURE not to make it like a "bass fishing" show. Where every cast is a lunker. We include footage of junk (camp lead), shotgun butts, lantern parts, rivets, etc.... In addition to the coin-recovery/reveal footage.

    Also we try to capture audio of both the signals we chase, vs those we'd pass. Otherwise, a "beep" of a good target, has no rhyme-or-reason vs targets we've elected to pass. And try to include an analysis of what we think it likely is, ahead of time. This is especially true for an environment where cherry-picking is going on (junky turf, when trying to isolate old coins vs shallow clad and foil). The interpretation of a fluty orchestra machine , showing what you'd "chase" vs "pass", makes those videos very fun.
    Metal detecting is my one worldy vice!

  3. #3
    Charter Member
    us
    Nov 2012
    Maryland
    XP Deus, Tesoro Cibola, Tesoro Tejon
    11,709
    19125 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (7)
    I consider a lot of the youtube videos as creative lying 101.

  4. #4
    us
    Feb 2013
    Flagstaff, AZ
    Tesoro Sidewinder Umax, Garrett AT Pro, Equinox 800
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    622 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    What gets me are the ones with titles like "Epic Hunt, Silver Coins Galore". You start viewing, and learn that the video is comprised of numerous different permissions spanning multiple bunches of days. Then they're all edited just to show the good finds only. You can bet they dug some trash! Youtube has become kind of a joke in this regard, with people doing just about anything to get the views and likes. I've become very selective about the individuals that I watch now, and even then take most things with a grain of salt. Just my two cents, FWIW.
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  5. #5
    us
    Feb 2014
    Ohio and Florida
    CTX3030 w 11" and 17" DD coils, Minelab Excalibur II w 10" coil, BH Discovery 3300 w 7" coil, Troy Shadow x2 w 7" coil Vibra-Tector 730 w 4" coil, Fisher Pulse Pointer, Whites (1970s)
    581
    1353 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    I've been on this bandwagon before; us all biasing viewers every time we post a great find but never post the average day where, for me as an example, can spend 5 hrs in the surf battling 2 footers all day and come away with 2 coins/hr and half of those are cents! Not to mention $15.00 to park and about $9.00 in gas to get there.

    However, these MD Utube videos, where you find great things every time you're out, may be one reason there has been an uptick in Newbies hitting the beach with either a Bounty Hunter or NOX 800. Some I meet are really astonished that that hadn't found more as they meandering about; going nowhere fast.

    "Dang, I've been at this for 2 hrs and haven't even found one gold ring...something must be wrong with the detector!"

    I try not to bother them... and I hope to get a good deal on a slightly used NOX 800 for my next hunting season.
    Metal Detecting Goal in Life is to Find Wife a 2ct Diamond Ring (so she'll be quiet about all my metal detecting).

  6. #6
    Charter Member
    us
    papa

    Feb 2017
    Georgetown, SC
    Fisher F75
    2,676
    4504 times
    Metal Detecting
    Videos. Usually don't watch the self-promoting, ego-inflated, lying productions. Especially those with huge gaudy colorful title, some guy with the wide open mouth, crazy eyes, or flapping his arms around. I do watch some. I'm sure not everyone is lying. Surely not Tom.


    "And so the population was gradually led into the demoralising temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilisation', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian, written AD 98.

  7. #7
    us
    Just dig it

    Jan 2018
    California
    Garrett Ace 350, Harbor Frieght
    490
    1110 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Why? Because some get kickback from big brands or shops and just to get veiws. I don't mind watching edited videos. Better than watching 30 mins of trash digging. Even though they show all of these killer finds, they are still doing the work getting permissions, looking up sites, digging trash. I like most of them.
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  8. #8
    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2013
    OC, CA
    XP Deus, Equinox 800 & 600 720i Stealth Scoop
    6,927
    6255 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Well written post, thanks!
    I want to see the TID numbers for each target while still in the hole, not just what comes out at the end.


    We are not what we take, we are what we leave.

  9. #9
    Charter Member
    us
    Nov 2012
    Maryland
    XP Deus, Tesoro Cibola, Tesoro Tejon
    11,709
    19125 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (7)
    Don't get me wrong. I do watch some, but, with a hefty does of not believing this stuff attitude, I see it as just entertainment. Make believe for the most part. I tried a video once, and figured I could dig or video, not both at the same time.
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  10. #10
    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2017
    Northern Virginia
    AT MAX/AT PRO/Garrett Pro Pointer, Lesche diggers, and the custom made Freeloader Pack Mule Pouch!
    2,940
    3705 times
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    I try to stay away from the click bait videos and look for ones that have some educational value, there are some out there but tough to find.
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  11. #11
    Charter Member
    us
    Watch For Motorcycles

    Dec 2009
    St. Charles County, Missouri
    Garrett AT Pro, Tesoro Vaquero, Bounty Hunter Land Star, Teknetics Delta 4000, Garrett Carrot
    2,198
    1415 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Kray Gelder View Post
    Videos. Usually don't watch the self-promoting, ego-inflated, lying productions. Especially those with huge gaudy colorful title, some guy with the wide open mouth, crazy eyes, or flapping his arms around. I do watch some. I'm sure not everyone is lying. Surely not Tom.
    There are several of those 'tubers who are members here. Drives me nuts.
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    Watch for Motorcycles

  12. #12
    us
    Mar 2018
    Delaware, The First State
    White's, Technetics, Fisher M, AT Pro
    177
    328 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I like the Aquachigger guy. He's fairly honest about all the junk and still seems to be having a good time.

  13. #13
    us
    Just dig it

    Jan 2018
    California
    Garrett Ace 350, Harbor Frieght
    490
    1110 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    When my hunt partner & I make videos, we MAKE SURE not to make it like a "bass fishing" show. Where every cast is a lunker. We include footage of junk (camp lead), shotgun butts, lantern parts, rivets, etc.... In addition to the coin-recovery/reveal footage.

    Also we try to capture audio of both the signals we chase, vs those we'd pass. Otherwise, a "beep" of a good target, has no rhyme-or-reason vs targets we've elected to pass. And try to include an analysis of what we think it likely is, ahead of time. This is especially true for an environment where cherry-picking is going on (junky turf, when trying to isolate old coins vs shallow clad and foil). The interpretation of a fluty orchestra machine , showing what you'd "chase" vs "pass", makes those videos very fun.
    I like your video, even if they have catchy titles and digging silver coins. But please don't talk bad about shotgun butts like they are trash. All shotgun butts matter hahaha. I guess in am bias though because I live in California, you guys keep making your videos!
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  14. #14

    Mar 2007
    Salinas, CA
    Explorer II, Compass 77b, Tesoro shadow X2
    13,525
    9859 times
    Banner Finds (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick79 View Post
    .... All shotgun butts matter hahaha....
    Really ? Ok, I got a bunch I'll sell ya ! $10 each ... cheap !

    My hunt partner and I got back from a recent ghost-townsy trip, but only did "still picture" shots of the show & tell. Not a video this time. I put those pix @ FMDF, d/t nothing too spectacular. The only coin on this trek (of note) was an 1860 S dime that my buddy got. But it was hosed, so we didn't do a video. All the footage would have been henry shells, rivots, suspender clip, etc... Good filler material (and great vantage points from my Go-pro that I'm still perfecting @ mounted on a visor). But since we didn't get any live footage of any crisp older coins, we elected for just some still photo's this time.
    SeabeeRon likes this.
    Metal detecting is my one worldy vice!

  15. #15
    us
    Just dig it

    Jan 2018
    California
    Garrett Ace 350, Harbor Frieght
    490
    1110 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Haha, me too, I find it hard to make a video of just 1 good find. I might do one of my live dig Santa Clara token and stills of other stuff. Unfortunately I didn't get a live dig of my 1900 barber there cause I had no room on my cell phone was too full
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