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  1. #1
    us
    Feb 2010
    California
    Tesoro Tejon,Tesoro Lobo
    132
    Relic-Hunting,Metal Detecting,Prospecting

    Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    I thought I'd post this unique find I made in the beginning of this year. My friend gave me permission to hunt his 30 acres in the Sierra foothills that had been a Chinese camp for miners working the local creeks in the area. First few hours I found many iron square nails, opium tins, and other common items found in this area. As I moved towards a flat spot I started to find things like Chinese ceramic pieces from dishis and cups and other items including what appeared to be a broken blade from a sword. I showed it to my friend and and pretty much called it a day. The next day my buddy and I hunted the same area and he found the other end of the blade puzzle. The handle had mother of pearl and the length was apprx. 12 inches long.
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  2. #2
    us
    It's there,you just gotta look for it!

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    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    VERY nice pig sticker!! God Bless Chris

  3. #3
    us
    Nov 2011
    Whites MXT
    19
    Prospecting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Awesome knife

  4. #4
    Charter Member
    ca
    Apr 2010
    Ontario Canada
    Garrett At Pro, Garrett Pro-Pointer, Samson T-Handle Shovel, Lesche Knife
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    Relic Hunting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Very interesting sword / knife!
    I'm thinking that because the handle is 12" long, it must have been designed to be used as a two-handed sword. This having been said, I'm also thinking that there must have been a piece or possibly a number of pieces in the middle that are missing? Do the two broken ends of the blade mesh perfectly together?

    Very nice find Relichunter1!
    Dave
    I love hunting old relic sites . . . as I feel
    the imprint of past lives often linger there.

    I view relic sites as windows to the past, sacred places
    in a way, yet at the same time attesting to the reality
    that the past is still very much a part of our today!

  5. #5
    us
    Feb 2010
    California
    Tesoro Tejon,Tesoro Lobo
    132
    Relic-Hunting,Metal Detecting,Prospecting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ANTIQUARIAN
    Very interesting sword / knife!
    I'm thinking that because the handle is 12" long, it must have been designed to be used as a two-handed sword. This having been said, I'm also thinking that there must have been a piece or possibly a number of pieces in the middle that are missing? Do the two broken ends of the blade mesh perfectly together?

    Very nice find Relichunter1!
    Dave
    Antiquarian, yes the blade matches the knife exactly. The total length with blase and handle is 12 inches, would not want to be stuck by that, Talk about chopped suey . Mother of pearl handles, but all worn out and broken. Would be a nice restoration project for someone who knows knifes.

  6. #6
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    Oct 2006
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    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    ya know this is on the verge of Banner finds .

  7. #7

    Jun 2008
    38

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    that is an awesome find there!

  8. #8

    Mar 2003
    Oakhurst,CA
    4500, MXT, Minelab 18000,
    86

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Nice find Fred-

    Shep
    "Going to see elephant"

  9. #9
    us
    Nov 2011
    Phoenix, AZ
    19
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Incredible find. I wonder what the reasoning for the extra long handle was... Some sort of task specific function? First thing that comes to mind is additional force in double-overhand stabbing, but I admittedly have zero knowledge in weapon use beyond experience!

  10. #10
    us
    Feb 2010
    California
    Tesoro Tejon,Tesoro Lobo
    132
    Relic-Hunting,Metal Detecting,Prospecting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Thanks folks ! Hey Shep how are things...I am biased but I do think this is a great find because the dagger/knife was incredibley decorative when new..160 years ago. The canons, and the face you can clearly see, with the brass/bronze/ mother of pearl handles it must not have been a cheap piece or possibly a custom. I think I am going to look into restoreing it to its full glory.such a piece deserves it. Plus it connects Chinese miners in California to the California Gold Rush.. . When I do I will post new before and after pictures, it may than get banner...

  11. #11
    us
    Dec 2011
    California
    Tesoro Lobo, White's Mxt Pro & GMT, Gold Master ll.
    91
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    This is a high quality find. BANNER for sure! What a treasure....

  12. #12
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    MR.

    Feb 2006
    Northern & Southern California (Left Coast)
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    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    The sword / knife may be fir ceremonial purposes as opposed to utilitarian.

    Perhaps an Chinese antique dealer in San Francisco or elsewhere could identify the knife, period and history.
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  13. #13
    Charter Member
    us
    Aug 2011
    Southwest Florida
    Garrett & Fisher
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    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Looks like a switch blade ,one cannon looks like it moves and is that a spring on the other side of the handle ??

    Jonnie
    Jonnie

  14. #14
    us
    Dec 2010
    Pike County Kentucky
    Garrett Ace 250, Garrett Pro-pointer, Lecshe Digging Tool, Predator Mauler T-Handle
    408
    Relic Hunting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Very nice!!
    Relicminer

  15. #15
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    Tuberale

    May 2010
    Portland, Oregon
    White's Coinmaster Pro
    2,945
    1 times

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Weapon of choice? Maybe.

    I'd think that would make a dandy crevicing tool.

    GREAT find!

  16. #16
    us
    Feb 2010
    California
    Tesoro Tejon,Tesoro Lobo
    132
    Relic-Hunting,Metal Detecting,Prospecting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by baywalker
    Looks like a switch blade ,one cannon looks like it moves and is that a spring on the other side of the handle ??

    Jonnie

    Baywalker, no springs on this old thing..The blade folded into the handle. This knife was found on a 1860's Chinese mining camp on my friends private property. We hunt this area once in a while and have uncovered opium tins and a few Chinese coins and things. So I am pretty sure this knife was a miners personal weapon of the last resort....

  17. #17
    us
    Feb 2012
    Storm Lake, Iowa
    12
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    This is an amazing find, I love it. I have a few of those chinese coins like the one pictured. great find.
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  18. #18
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    da book worm--researcher

    Feb 2007
    callahan,fl
    delta 4000 / ace 250 - used BH and many others too
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    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    most likely it was a weapon and likely all they had to defend ones self with ---robbery of chinese and black miners was fairly common especially in the pre civil war days and often little or nothing was done about it legally speaking -- often the miners were nearly helpless since "local" white store owners often would not sell guns and ammo to chinese or black miners in those days --they were easy picking for claim jumpers and robbing criminals --the civil war allowed many free blacks and asians to 'arm" themselves for the first time because of all the guns being suddenly 'availible"

  19. #19

    Sep 2004
    3,598
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    Banner Finds (3)

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Relichunter1
    I thought I'd post this unique find I made in the beginning of this year. My friend gave me permission to hunt his 30 acres in the Sierra foothills that had been a Chinese camp for miners working the local creeks in the area. First few hours I found many iron square nails, opium tins, and other common items found in this area. As I moved towards a flat spot I started to find things like Chinese ceramic pieces from dishis and cups and other items including what appeared to be a broken blade from a sword. I showed it to my friend and and pretty much called it a day. The next day my buddy and I hunted the same area and he found the other end of the blade puzzle. The handle had mother of pearl and the length was apprx. 12 inches long.
    Weapon of the Chiness sword dancer [Dragon Teaser] Very nice find,

    tinpan

  20. #20
    Charter Member
    us
    Dec 2010
    Rhode Island
    T2 SPECIAL EDITION
    1,603
    History Hunter

    Re: Chinese miners weapon of choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by aa battery
    ya know this is on the verge of Banner finds .


    I agree this is BANNER find all day..

    Especially because it was found in American soil

    My vote is in



    Blaze
    Metal detecting,once you get hooked to this lifestyle,that lure of treasure......Its an adrenaline rush just talking about it..

 

 
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