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  1. #1
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    Jul 2011
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    New to this site... I dug this awhile back using a Fisher CZ70.

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  3. #2
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    This was dug along with about 30 religious medallions and around 20 crosses some of the items are silver and some gold. A silver ringing with Mother Marry on it. Some of the items are dated to the 1700.

  4. #3
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    Sorry about the picture. Can't figure out how to get it to load right side up.

  5. #4
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    Jul 2011
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    More pictures of the religious cache I found while detecting with my Fisher Cz70. This was dug all in the same hole while I was searching a vacant lot.

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  6. #5
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    It's dangerous to be right when those with a thimbleful of perceived authority are wrong.

    Mar 2012
    Michigan
    White's MXT, DFX, GMT and Fisher F5
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    Metal Detecting
    That is amazing. The crown should be in a museum.
    You found this in a vacant lot? Somebody probably robbed a monastery or church or something. Odd that there would be so many crucifixes in one spot.

    Story: Nazis plunder a village in Europe. They round up the villagers, taking their crucifixes and rings and rob the church, stealing the crown. The officer in charge gathers them all together, continuing to fight.
    He is killed by Americans, and the collection is captured by an American who smuggles them back to the US. The soldier then buries the loot in his yard, and dies without revealing where it was.
    The house is torn down, but the loot remained undisturbed til you found it.

    Last edited by Diggit; May 04, 2012 at 02:35 PM.

  7. #6
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    Jul 2011
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    This lot was next to a very old roadway I believe it was left there by a traveling priest and he never returned to get it. Some of these items date to the mid. 1700s

  8. #7
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    Pug

    May 2011
    Ohio
    Garrett AT Pro, pro pointer
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Great bunch of good stuff. Love the sorry D.D.

  9. #8
    us
    Aug 2011
    Central Pa
    At Pro/F75 LTD
    80
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Wow!!!

  10. #9
    us
    Jun 2008
    Kalamazoo County, Michigan
    Garrett AT Pro, Garret Pro-Pointer, Gut Feelings
    100
    25 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    That is a stupendous find. Congratulations.

    Can you tell us more about the crown please.
    Is it okay to shout "movie" in a crowded firehouse?

  11. #10
    us
    Jul 2011
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    It appears to be made of brass with gold overlay. I have not had it checked out by anyone I don't think the stones are real I believe they are glass. It's about 7" tall and 4" wide. Can't tell you more than that. It is kept in a safe and and will belong to my kids one day.

  12. #11
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    Sep 2009
    Southern California
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    Dave ~

    The more I look around, the more it strikes me that some (if not all) of the stuff you found might be related to the ...

    Infant of Prague

    I have just barely researched this possibility, but it looks as if "Infant of Progue" items involved a lot of charms and stuff like that. Please check out these comparisons and see what you make of it. Plus, there is tons of IOP information and pictures on the internet to check out.

    I'm really not sure if IOP stuff was specifically geared towards children, but it might have been.

    SBB

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_Jesus_of_Prague

    Calistiana - Carnelian and Bronze Divine Infant of Prague Beaded Rosary

    Notice the small figure on the top left. (one of your pieces).
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  13. #12
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    23,601
    751 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Cool find for sure. These Catholic medals are very hard to date because they made millions. I see some 20th century items like the Holy Communion. Some may certainly be older but I looked very quickly.. Did you post the 1700 identified stuff? Look for crucifixes with skulls.


    The Miraculous Medal ring cannot possibly be older than 1830 but they all have the same date even today. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SkS28ZZ9ef...lous_medal.jpg I see it has a hallmark on it. Does it say Sterling? If you post closeup of the mark we may be able to ID it. We can ID rings best by the hallmarks IMO. Is the gold marked?
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  14. #13
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    23,601
    751 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    The one medal looks like silver. Very nice. Is that from 1700's? It looks as if there may be a wide date range.

  15. #14
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
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    751 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Looks like a ST. GERARD MAJELLA PRAY FOR US medal with the skull but I cant read it.

  16. #15
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    Jul 2011
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    In the inside of the ring sterling is stamped on it. There is a M with a cross above it and below the M is 2 hearts above one of the hearts Is a small cross. All of this is circled in stars.
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  17. #16
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
    70's Whites TM Amphibian, HH Pulse, Ace 250
    23,601
    751 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Dave View Post
    In the inside of the ring sterling is stamped on it. There is a M with a cross above it and below the M is 2 hearts above one of the hearts Is a small cross. All of this is circled in stars.
    Yes its the Miraculous Medal. Cannot possibly be later than 1830. Can be dated by the stamp sterling as well but I forget when. You can eliminate anything aluminum as being very old. It may be a mixed bag and like I said very nice find.(I came over from the WII forum) I realize you werent asking for ID but you were asking to date the crown. We date the medals, we can probably date the crown,

  18. #17
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    Jul 2011
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    Thanks for that information. I'll try to post more other items.

  19. #18
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    Sep 2009
    Southern California
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    Here's a ring that is very similar, with the same mark inside. I can't quite make out what yours has on the front or sides. There are some great close ups of this ring on the link.

    The one on the link states it is from the 1940s, but doesn't specify who made it or how they came up with that date.

    SBB

    Jewelry Virgin Mary Ring 1940's vintage by TheIDconnection on Etsy

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  20. #19
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    Jul 2011
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    That's very similar but mine has no writing on it other than what's on the inside.

  21. #20
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    Sep 2009
    Southern California
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    Here's a closer look at the same (or similar link) that Big Cy posted earlier. It has a little more info on the Virgin Mary image and hallmark, but still nothing specific.

    I'm beginning to think the M is for Mary or Miraculous/Medal and not a hallmark.

    SBB

    The Meaning of the Miraculous Medal | eHow.com

    http://www.wherewewalked.info/feasts...mber/11-27.htm

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