May 03, 2012, 10:39 PM
New to this site... I dug this awhile back using a Fisher CZ70.
May 03, 2012 10:39 PM
May 03, 2012, 10:45 PM
This was dug along with about 30 religious medallions and around 20 crosses some of the items are silver and some gold. A silver ringing with Mother Marry on it. Some of the items are dated to the 1700.
May 03, 2012, 10:47 PM
Sorry about the picture. Can't figure out how to get it to load right side up.
May 04, 2012, 03:27 PM
May 04, 2012, 03:31 PM
It's dangerous to be right when those with a thimbleful of perceived authority are wrong.
That is amazing. The crown should be in a museum.
You found this in a vacant lot? Somebody probably robbed a monastery or church or something. Odd that there would be so many crucifixes in one spot.
Story: Nazis plunder a village in Europe. They round up the villagers, taking their crucifixes and rings and rob the church, stealing the crown. The officer in charge gathers them all together, continuing to fight.
He is killed by Americans, and the collection is captured by an American who smuggles them back to the US. The soldier then buries the loot in his yard, and dies without revealing where it was.
The house is torn down, but the loot remained undisturbed til you found it.
Last edited by Diggit; May 04, 2012 at 03:35 PM.
May 04, 2012, 03:36 PM
This lot was next to a very old roadway I believe it was left there by a traveling priest and he never returned to get it. Some of these items date to the mid. 1700s
May 04, 2012, 07:39 PM
Great bunch of good stuff. Love the sorry D.D.
May 04, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 04, 2012, 10:34 PM
That is a stupendous find. Congratulations.
Can you tell us more about the crown please.
Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.
May 04, 2012, 10:53 PM
It appears to be made of brass with gold overlay. I have not had it checked out by anyone I don't think the stones are real I believe they are glass. It's about 7" tall and 4" wide. Can't tell you more than that. It is kept in a safe and and will belong to my kids one day.
May 04, 2012, 11:33 PM
May 05, 2012, 01:51 AM
Cool find for sure. These Catholic medals are very hard to date because they made millions. I see some 20th century items like the Holy Communion. Some may certainly be older but I looked very quickly.. Did you post the 1700 identified stuff? Look for crucifixes with skulls.
The Miraculous Medal ring cannot possibly be older than 1830 but they all have the same date even today. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SkS28ZZ9ef...lous_medal.jpg I see it has a hallmark on it. Does it say Sterling? If you post closeup of the mark we may be able to ID it. We can ID rings best by the hallmarks IMO. Is the gold marked?
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 05, 2012 at 02:16 AM.
May 05, 2012, 01:59 AM
The one medal looks like silver. Very nice. Is that from 1700's? It looks as if there may be a wide date range.
May 05, 2012, 02:14 AM
Looks like a ST. GERARD MAJELLA PRAY FOR US medal with the skull but I cant read it.
May 05, 2012, 07:39 AM
In the inside of the ring sterling is stamped on it. There is a M with a cross above it and below the M is 2 hearts above one of the hearts Is a small cross. All of this is circled in stars.
May 05, 2012, 08:05 AM
Yes its the Miraculous Medal. Cannot possibly be later than 1830. Can be dated by the stamp sterling as well but I forget when. You can eliminate anything aluminum as being very old. It may be a mixed bag and like I said very nice find.(I came over from the WII forum) I realize you werent asking for ID but you were asking to date the crown. We date the medals, we can probably date the crown,
Originally Posted by Deputy Dave
May 05, 2012, 08:18 AM
Thanks for that information. I'll try to post more other items.
May 05, 2012, 11:25 AM
May 05, 2012, 11:48 AM
That's very similar but mine has no writing on it other than what's on the inside.
May 05, 2012, 11:55 AM
Here's a closer look at the same (or similar link) that Big Cy posted earlier. It has a little more info on the Virgin Mary image and hallmark, but still nothing specific.
I'm beginning to think the M is for Mary or Miraculous/Medal and not a hallmark.
The Meaning of the Miraculous Medal | eHow.com
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