Wanted native American yutchi Indian to tell me what marks on tree mean

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Why the yuchi? You found 200+ year old carvings on a tree? Unlikely. There are only a couple hundred Yuchi descendants left. I'm sure they'll be in touch. Good luck.
 

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if you think modern day native americans have some sort of secrete knowledge into the past, you are mistaken.
 

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if you think modern day native americans have some sort of secrete knowledge into the past, you are mistaken.

I wouldn’t underestimate the past or current knowledge of any cultures. Although it is certain that a vast amount of knowledge was lost when Native American populations were decimated by Eurasian diseases and their physical methods of communication were burned by the Catholics, vast amounts of knowledge undoubtedly remain. For example, Native Americans in the four corners region helped epidemiologists figure out the source of the “Sin Nombre Virus” through oral histories. To the epidemiologists, it was an emerging infectious disease that they hadn’t encountered. The Native Americans knew about it for centuries and the weather patterns which caused the disease to become more frequent.

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I wouldn’t underestimate the past or current knowledge of any cultures. Although it is certain that a vast amount of knowledge was lost when Native American populations were decimated by Eurasian diseases and their physical methods of communication were burned by the Catholics, vast amounts of knowledge undoubtedly remain. For example, Native Americans in the four corners region helped epidemiologists figure out the source of the “Sin Nombre Virus” through oral histories. To the epidemiologists, it was an emerging infectious disease that they hadn’t encountered. The Native Americans knew about it for centuries and the weather patterns which caused the disease to become more frequent.

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Yes, it would be a mistake to dismiss the persistence, and accuracy, of memories orally transmitted. For instance, the Henbury Meteorite crater, in Australia, was created by an impact some 4700 years ago. And the aboregenies passed down the fact that rocks falling from the sky created the crater. They remembered the crater had been created by meteoritic impact that happened nearly 5000 years ago. That is one highly impressive feat of oral memory transmission.

More local to myself, the Narragansett of RI have oral memories of a time when they lived in villages out in the Atlantic, benealth Block Island Sound, and RI Sound, and that can only have been thousands of years ago. When Deepwater Wind built the first offshore wind farm in the United States, off Block Island, members of the tribe were included as consultants in the necessary search for prehistoric underwater sites before Deepwater could built the wind turbines.
 

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reading stories on the internet is one thing, having first hand experience with tribes today is another.
 

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reading stories on the internet is one thing, having first hand experience with tribes today is another.

I do have first hand experience where offshore explorations and present day tribal oral traditions are concerned in my own neck of the woods. I likely would not have brought it up otherwise. On the other hand, I have no first hand experience with Australian aboregenies, although what I related is true as far as it goes.
 

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if you think modern day native americans have some sort of secrete knowledge into the past, you are mistaken.

Yes modern day native Americans have secrete knowledge into the past like 10-16K into the past. I have talked to ppl that have studied petroglyph's for a long time and they have tried to gain knowledge from native Americans about the glyph's and he said they only speak of a small fraction of what it means. This knowledge has been passed down for thousands of years.
 

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reading stories on the internet is one thing, having first hand experience with tribes today is another.

So are you saying that all “tribes” on earth have shared everything that they collectively know with humanity so that no secrets remain... or are you saying that through vast firsthand experience that you now possess the collective knowledge of all “tribes” on earth and therefore they hold no secret knowledge into the past because they have shared all of their collective knowledge with you alone?

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no, i am saying assimilaton has erased a lot. not saying an Athabaskan in central Alaska or a Dine' in Arazona have lost their culture...but those sorts of more islolated or larger groups will hang onto parts of their heritage much longer than most east coast or small mission bands in California.
 

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no, i am saying assimilaton has erased a lot. not saying an Athabaskan in central Alaska or a Dine' in Arazona have lost their culture...but those sorts of more islolated or larger groups will hang onto parts of their heritage much longer than most east coast or small mission bands in California.

Ok unclemac. That makes sense, although it’s entirely different than what you first said.

Growdude, we’re still waiting on the photos of the tree carvings...

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