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    Corner notch-ideas?

    Any ideas what type this is? From Illinois.
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    us
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    With the serrations I think a Kirk, nice point.
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    Cool point. Not sure of the type but it looks archaic to me.

    I think the differences in flaking between the two sides are quite interesting. Your point is a bit like an old pickup truck. Quality where it mattered to get the job done, but not a lot of extra frills. The knapper could have made an amazing point based on the knapping demonstrated on those side to side flakes and the edge work on the A side, but he casually made and resharpened an artifact that suited his needs. Prettying up the B side would have cost him width & maybe length.

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    us
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    Nice point, workmanship is great!
    We are in a hobby that is supported by losers!!

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    Thank you. I couldn’t tell if the unifacial flaking is common or just a matter of the type of stone they worked with. It almost has a stillwell look to it....hmmmm
    Any idea of possible age?

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    us
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    Corner notch-ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jbenson View Post
    Thank you. I couldnít tell if the unifacial flaking is common or just a matter of the type of stone they worked with. It almost has a stillwell look to it....hmmmm
    Any idea of possible age?
    That style and flaking would make me think Archaic looks like Kirk or something in that cluster
    Last edited by arrow86; Jan 11, 2019 at 02:31 PM.
    I would rather see an authentic broken scraper posted than a G-10 Artifake!

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    Fascinating! What do you see in the flaking that is Kirk like? Appreciate all the help

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    that may be a large impact fracture which cause a large flake off the one side.

    What does the edge look like close up on the side with the large flake area? In the one image showing the large flake area and the notches, I dont see much pressure flaking.
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    Here is a pic of the reverse. Not much pressure flaking as there was not much to work from. Does this help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony in SC View Post
    Nice point, workmanship is great!
    Quote Originally Posted by dognose View Post
    that may be a large impact fracture which cause a large flake off the one side.

    What does the edge look like close up on the side with the large flake area? In the one image showing the large flake area and the notches, I dont see much pressure flaking.
    Yes, that under (ventral)-side of the point you are referring to, bothers me too...!
    A look at the very edge could tell whether there seems to be an HUGE accidental damage, as the rest of the object is well done,
    as seen by the craftsmanship of the raised (dorsal)-side of the point....!

    As for the Culture it was made in, more research needed for the Type Name/dating
    it by that means....
    Stick With It - It's not *IF* you'll find the good stuff , but WHEN!

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    I believe that is a Stilwell point. Early archaic and usually well made with serrations. Gary

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    Oct 2018
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    I think arrow86 is on target … likely early archaic unfaced initially with later touch ups / I always say likely because I'm no expert and have been wrong numerous times .. lol …. great find : )
    Gratz

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    Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. One guy told me that all early archaic pieces are beveled during resharpening which I know is not true. Made me wonder if itís a hopewell piece, but the serrations dont seem to fit.....

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    If this archaic, how old would this piece be? Thanks

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