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  1. #16
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    I'm no stone expert, but have done considerable welding and grinding and the second picture on the right at the most narrow end of the scooped out portion looks just like the marks a grinding disc makes.

  2. #17
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    1st as Davesmith said there are modern tool marks in the scooped out spot. 2nd like Joshua said the shape and form is wrong. 3rd the lines are all the same width and you don't get that with stone and last the holes are not made right for either stone or cane drilled. JMO
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  3. #18
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    Ebay is surely the faker's friend!! Probably every category on the bay has fakes just waiting to take somebody for a ride.
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    Also a ton of stuff people actually think are real. This is not a remark related to the OP I hope you piece is authentic You could take it to a professional or to a University or the like and have it looked at nothing better than having it in hand to look at up close.......Tommy
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  5. #20
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    And I thought this weekend I should have said the same as Tommy, there's nothing like holding it in your hand. Pictures can be good, but sometime they just don't show it as it really is.
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  6. #21
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    *Sorry for the late reply.

    CC: antmike915

    Some people have more money than common sense!...lol

    Best regards,

    JG

  7. #22
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    CC: gunsil

    Indeed! ebay is a den of thieves. Fortunately, I've learned to be more patient and exercise a greater degree of caution before hitting the 'buy now' or 'bid' button since acquiring my "priceless" Native American artifact and the peace pipe...lol I haven't been fleeced since!

    Oh, would you guys like to see my "priceless" Peace Pipe?...lol

    As far as colonial and Rev pieces, I have established a relationship with a number of reputable sellers and buy mostly from them. These days, if something looks too good to be true, I leave it on the shelf.

    Best regards,

    JG
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  8. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relicgrubber View Post
    Letís see a head on pictures of the hole with light behind it? In the first picture the hole looks to be done with a drill. Most authentic drilled pieces the hole is conical from both sides.
    *Sorry for the late response. Here are a few Hi-Res closeups of the eye. There appears to be a residue of organic (maybe cordage) material lining the interior of the eye.

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    Best regards,

    JG
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  9. #24
    Prof. Shellman

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    the lines do not have any patina. freshie
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  10. #25
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    Just going to throw this out there --- I think I recall seeing this item posted here a long time ago. Maybe by the account Sunnyside or mogi.


    I recall the images and the interesting combo of a celt like bit area with a groove similar to what would have been made with a a grinding wheel.
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    I'll throw this out there too... Those drilled holes must not be as smooth as expected because there's a lot of debris/dust collected in the neck of the biconical holes.
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  12. #27
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    Hi,

    The debris lining the eye of this pendant does not appear to be dust. It looks like the remnant of organic twine or string. Perhaps an added touch by the faker to add authenticity to the forgery?

    I still haven't given up on this dud. I cling to the hope that this gorget has a 5% chance of being real. But the percentage of my expectations and hope are dropping by the minute...lol

    Best regards,

    JG

  13. #28
    ca
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    one more kick...if it had ever been worn as a pendant there would be wear in the drilled hole from cord or whatever..
    .or it had never been worn or used
    I just get a bad vibe about stuff like that or I just dont want to be a sucker
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  14. #29
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    Yes. There is little chance in the near future that I would embarrass myself by gifting this "priceless" relic to a museum...lol As of now, it's the most expensive soap stone paperweight in the State of New Jersey...lol
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    The only items I truly wonder about are the ones I did not purchase because I talked myself out of them and in most cases would have been not to regretful to find out that they are not what I perceived them to be. But there is always that "what if" in the back of my mind.
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