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  1. #1726

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    Quote Originally Posted by b3y0nd3r View Post
    .... evidence, or anything of that sort(what ever definition you choose) which is presented for debate, needs to be scrutinized by the people that oppose it...
    And I thought that for any possible explanation the believer's propose, that so-too has the skeptics ALSO given possible explanations for the points of the legend, as well. I don't think that the skeptics have slacked in the task of attempts to squash the "pro" side points. Oh sure, you might not believe the merit of their points. But don't think for a moment that the skeptics haven't tried.

    And here's what happens when they try: Wack-a-mole game. Where: When any reasons for the salacious details, other than treasure, is proposed, the believers will come back with some remote contingency explanation of how some extreme feat of engineering or nature *could* be possible (given enough slaves, and alignment of stars). Thus: 20 pages of wack-a-mole.

    So please don't think for a moment that the believer's points "haven't been scrutinized". You may not buy into their explanations. That's fine. You can label it "conjecture". That's fine. So too is the believer's points "conjecture" as well.
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  2. #1727

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    Well, don't forget, income mobility in our American culture is very fluid. People can go up and down in income, via regular economics, all-the-time. And yet have nothing to do with whether-or-not they found a treasure.

    And re.: the bold italics in your quote above : Let's imagine that research showed any or all of them stayed economically the same. Or actually led a lesser/poorer lifestyle thereafter. I imagine that this would not detract from the notion of O.I. treasure.

    See how that works ? If someone of them could be historically shown to have "mysteriously grown wealthy", then we'd all say "Aha! Treasure !". But if they were shown to have stayed the same or decreased, then ..... that would not mean "no treasure". See how the "clues" can only point one-way, and not the other ? See the double-standard ?
    Wow you will literally argue about anything!
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  3. #1728

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robot View Post
    Tom in Ca

    Thank You...For Boosting This Thread...To Nearly A Quarter of a Million...Viewers!

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    To bad it is not worth reading now.
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  4. #1729

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    Quote Originally Posted by travis.gore.79 View Post
    Wow you will literally argue about anything!
    If you meant that as coming from the isle of the believers, then : Ironically coming from the side that says we "have not produced evidence". So when we go to produce evidence, then presto: We will " literally argue about anything" eh ?
    Last edited by Tom_in_CA; Feb 11, 2019 at 05:34 PM.
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  5. #1730
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    Sorry About That...Trying To Define...A Skeptic!

    Quote Originally Posted by travis.gore.79 View Post
    To bad it is not worth reading now.
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    The search for "Truth" and "Justice" is my "Prime Directive."

  6. #1731
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    Such animosity towards skeptics.

    I don't care WHAT you believe. I just don't reach the same conclusion that you may from the available evidence or lack of evidence.

    As new evidence is presented I will freely and publicly change my conclusion - as necessary.

    Will you do the same?

    How many dead-ends constitute a complete dead end?
    America was founded by tough hell-raisers. Rugged citizens who evaded taxes, spoke strongly against tyranny, grew tobacco, brewed beer, distilled spirits, and smuggled weapons. And it will be saved by those same types of citizens.

  7. #1732

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    So what do ya'll skeptics say about the original 3 already found what little treasure there was in the pit as some of their desendents have said..Sure I can't prove it happened and ya'll can't prove it didn't, yet there are family members claiming it did..
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  8. #1733
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    I'd go with the possibility a small amount of treasure was found near the surface. I said earlier (somewhere around here) that enough to be a year's regular salary for each would set them up pretty well. And they were smart enough to keep quiet about it for the next 60 years or so (that's when the first story that the young men had been digging came out).

    The following 26 attempts to find treasure would have obliterated any evidence of what may have been there.
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  9. #1734
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    There Are Always Ways...Of Getting Around...A Dead End!

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie P. (NY) View Post

    How many dead-ends constitute a complete dead end?
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  10. #1735
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    If you spent as much time digging up soil as you did memes we'd have some treasure to look at. ;-)
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  11. #1736
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    Just Biding My Time...Charlie...Biding My Time!

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie P. (NY) View Post
    If you spent as much time digging up soil as you did memes we'd have some treasure to look at. ;-)
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  12. #1737

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    It's time for another Bobby Dazzzzzler tonight.
    “The enemy never sees the backs of my Texans!" - General Robert E. Lee

    "While I could never repose confidence in a Yankee, I have never been deceived by an Indian" - Daniel Boone



  13. #1738
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    Do to the fact that no one here provided any evidence to the contrary, we must consider the original story as eyewitness testimony and to be true.

    So let's move on and discuss who/how this was built.
    Bucket list still needed:
    • Silver thimble
    • Spanish silver
    • seated half
    • flying eagle
    • early copper
    • 1700's coin
    • 1600's coin
    • silver 3 cent piece
    • nickel 3 cent piece
    • seated quarter
    • capped bust silver
    • draped bust silver
    • silver dollar

  14. #1739
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robot View Post
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    This is what you should have put.
    Axl is patience!
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    He could have dug the MP in like a day or two and had the 5 finger drains setup overnight!
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  15. #1740
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    Quote Originally Posted by b3y0nd3r View Post
    Do to the fact that no one here provided any evidence to the contrary, we must consider the original story as eyewitness testimony and to be true.

    So let's move on and discuss who/how this was built.
    Which "eyewitness" account was that? Had someone actually provided sworn testimony of something while under oath?

    "Testimony" has a very specific definition - not the same as "I once heard someone say that they had a great uncle who claimed to have known someone who . . . "
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