Oak Island the Strange, the Bizarre, and Maybe the "Truth!

[ECS]

Were the Wooden Stakes found in the Swamp...originally used for Careening or better yet...Scuttling...of ships?
These wooden stakes would be used to secure the ship.
I am predicting that one of these ships...scuttled...was the HMS Sterling Castle...loaded with Spanish Havana Treasure!

There have been at least 5 royal Navy Ships of the Line named HMS STIRLING, beginning in 1679, followed by those launch in 1705, 1742,1775, and 1811.
The HMS Stirling that took part in the 1762 Siege of Havana was the one launched on 1742, was severely damaged during the assault, and was scuttled in Havana Harbour.
The HMS Sterling was never loaded with "Spanish Havana Treasure", nor was the Stirling ever at Oak Island.

 

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[LouMiller]

Were the Wooden Stakes found in the Swamp...originally used for Careening or better yet...Scuttling...of ships?

The swamp area of Oak Island in the 18th Century open to the Ocean with the rise and lowering of the Tides would have been a perfect area to tip a Sailing Ship for Careening the Hull or to access the Hull for Scuttling.

These wooden stakes would be used to secure the ship.

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I am predicting that one of these ships...scuttled...was the HMS Sterling Castle...loaded with Spanish Havana Treasure!

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LMAO

 

[Robot]

Again...Do.."Loose Lips Sink Ships" or was it really..."Freemasons"?

There have been at least 5 royal Navy Ships of the Line named HMS STIRLING, beginning in 1679, followed by those launch in 1705, 1742,1775, and 1811.
The HMS Stirling that took part in the 1762 Siege of Havana was the one launched on 1742, was severely damaged during the assault, and was scuttled in Havana Harbour.
The HMS Sterling was never loaded with "Spanish Havana Treasure", nor was the Stirling ever at Oak Island.

Oh How I Love it... when Critics...do not read my posts!...Please refer to Post #188 and #192!



The quantity of ships needed by the Freemasons to transport the plunder from the sacking of Havana's Morro Castle was immense.

The ships used and the treasure transported had to be accountable to the crown.

With all Admirals on "board" (Shirley, Keppel, Anson, Pollock) the lie presented, that most of these ships were lost not in battle but in an unexpected storm was accepted by the War Commission.

Britian had seized 20% of the ships of the line of the Spanish Navy, namely Aquilón (74), Conquistador (74), Reina (70), San Antonio (64), Tigre (70), San Jenaro (60), África (70), América (60), Infante (74) and Soberano (74), together with 3 frigates, 9 smaller vessels including the Marte (18) commanded by Domingo de Bonechea and some armed vessels belonging to trading companies (Compañía de La Habana and Compañía de Caracas). Furthermore, two new almost-completed ships of the line were seized in the dockyards - San Carlos (80) and Santiago (60 or 80).

Spanish ships that may have been used and declared lost:

América (Nuestra Señora de Belen) 64 (1736) - Captured by Britain 1762, released?
San Genaro 60 (1761) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, lost 1763
San Carlos 80 (-) - Destroyed on stocks at Havana, 1762
Santiago 80 (-) - Destroyed on stocks at Havana, 1762
Numerous unnamed Privateer ships declared lost

British ships that may have been used and declared lost:

Stirling Castle was declared unserviceable and was stripped and scuttled in the upper reaches of Havana harbour on 14 September 1762, on the orders of Admiral George Pocock.[3]

HMS Temple was a 68-gun third rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy Commissioned under the command of Washington Shirley she foundered at sea and was lost

HMS Marlborough 68-gun ship Whilst making her way back to Britain after participating in the reduction of Havana in 1762, Marlborough was caught in very heavy weather. On 29 November her crew were forced
to abandon the ship, which was sinking. All of Marlborough's crew were taken off by HMS Antelope. On her way home to England Antelope encountered Marlborough, under Captain Thomas Burnett, which had sailed from
Havana as part of the escort of a convoy of prizes and transports, but had become separated in very heavy weather. She was leaking so badly that her guns had to be thrown overboard and the pumps kept working.
Antelope took all her people off on 29 November when she started to founder and she was allowed to sink.

Spanish ships captured and accounted for:

Tigre (San Lorenzo) 70/74 (1747) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, sold 1784
Reina 70 (1743) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, sold 1775
Infante (San Luis Gonzaga) 70/74 (1750) - Captured by Britain 1762, renamed Infanta, sold 1775
Aquilón (San Damaso) 68 (1754) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, renamed Moro, BU 1770
Soberano (San Gregorio) 74 (1755) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, BU 1770
Conquistador 74 (1758) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, stricken 1782
San Antonio 60 (1761) - Captured by Britain 1762, same name, sold 1775
África 74 (1752) - BU 1809

Was the Royal Navy Ship "HMS Sterling Castle" not really damaged in her engagement with the taking of Morro Castle Havana?

Was it only a deceitful plan that Admiral Pocock used to pretend to scuttle her, but in reality used the ship to transport their treasure from Havana to Oak Island?

Was it in fact that the "HMS Sterling Castle" was one of the unfortunate ships scuttled and deposed of at Oak Island?

A credible witness wrote that the Sterling Castle did not engage any enemy fire and the captain of this ship was Court Martialed for his misbehavior.

"1762 Letter by Major Alexander Monypenny about the Havana Siege
1st. July. Our Batteries open on the Morro, at the same time. The Cambridge, Dragon & Marborough laid their broad sides opposite to it. The Stirling Castle had Ordrs to sail by. & draw off the Fire, whilst the other ships were placing themselves. Tis said, she did not obey her orders. Capt. Campbell (formerly The Nightingale) is now trying by a Court Martial for misbehaviour. The Fort was too high, they did it little damage, whilst the enemy plung`d every shot into the ships; Captain Goosetree, & a great many men of the Cambridge were kill`d: the others suffer`d, but not so much. They were ordered off. The Cambridge could set one sail."

Post #192



Did the Freemasons plan to deceive with their claim of scuttling HMS Sterling Castle?


"HMS Stirling Castle was a 70-gun third rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, built at Chatham Dockyard to the 1733 proposals of the 1719 Establishment, and launched on 24 April 1742.[1]
Whilst under the command of Captain Thomas Cooper, Stirling Castle took part in the Battle of Toulon on 11 February 1744. Stirling Castle was the lead ship in Rear-Admiral William Rowley's van division of AdmiralThomas Mathews' fleet that engaged the France-Spanish fleet. After the battle several officers were court-martialed, including Captain Cooper who appeared on 12 May at Port Mahon, where he was dismissed the service. He was immediately restored to his former rank and command however, as the charges against him were not deemed detrimental to either his professional honour or his ability as a sea officer.[2]
She took part in the Battle of Havana in 1762.[3] Shortly afterwards Stirling Castle was declared unserviceable and was stripped and scuttled in the upper reaches of Havana harbour on 14 September 1762, on the orders of Admiral George Pocock."

Was it in fact that the "HMS Sterling Castle" was one of the unfortunate ships scuttled and deposed of at Oak Island?

A credible witness wrote that the Sterling Castle did not engage any enemy fire and the captain of this ship was Court Martialed for his misbehavior.

"1762 Letter by Major Alexander Monypenny about the Havana Siege
1st. July. Our Batteries open on the Morro, at the same time. The Cambridge, Dragon & Marborough laid their broad sides opposite to it. The Stirling Castle had Ordrs to sail by. & draw off the Fire, whilst the other ships were placing themselves. Tis said, she did not obey her orders. Capt. Campbell (formerly The Nightingale) is now trying by a Court Martial for misbehaviour. The Fort was too high, they did it little damage, whilst the enemy plung`d every shot into the ships; Captain Goosetree, & a great many men of the Cambridge were kill`d: the others suffer`d, but not so much. They were ordered off. The Cambridge could set one sail."

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The quantity of ships needed by the Freemasons to transport the plunder from the sacking of Havana's Morro Castle was immense.

One of these words does not belong. Can you spot it?

Those who chose "Freemasons" move up one row.

I think you are confusing "The British Fleet" with "Freemasons".

 

[Al D]

One of these words does not belong. Can you spot it?

Those who chose "Freemasons" move up one row.

I think you are confusing "The British Fleet" with "Freemasons".

he sees Freemasons in every shadow, such is his obsession

 

[ECS]

The quantity of ships needed by the Freemasons to transport the plunder from the sacking of Havana's Morro Castle was immense.
The ships used and the treasure transported had to be accountable to the crown.
With all Admirals on "board" (Shirley, Keppel, Anson, Pollock) the lie presented, that most of these ships were lost not in battle but in an unexpected storm was accepted by the War Commission...
British ships that may have been used and declared lost:

Stirling Castle was declared unserviceable and was stripped and scuttled in the upper reaches of Havana harbour on 14 September 1762, on the orders of Admiral George Pocock.[3]

HMS Temple was a 68-gun third rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy Commissioned under the command of Washington Shirley she foundered at sea and was lost

HMS Marlborough 68-gun ship Whilst making her way back to Britain after participating in the reduction of Havana in 1762, Marlborough was caught in very heavy weather. On 29 November her crew were forced to abandon the ship, which was sinking. All of Marlborough's crew were taken off by HMS Antelope.
On her way home to England Antelope encountered Marlborough, under Captain Thomas Burnett, which had sailed from
Havana as part of the escort of a convoy of prizes and transports, but had become separated in very heavy weather. She was leaking so badly that her guns had to be thrown overboard and the pumps kept working.
Antelope took all her people off on 29 November when she started to founder and she was allowed to sink.

Robot, are you claiming that ROYAL BRITISH ADMIRALS, Shirley, Keppel, Pollock, and Anson were all Freemasons, and used the siege of Havana to loot alleged Spanish treasure for nefarious Freemason purposes AND lied to the British Royal Admiralty and Crown to cover their theft?
...and all the sailors on these ships never talked about this?
This version appears to be a paste and cut of unrelated random facts fabricated to support a pet theory.
This is why the citing credible sources is most important for claims such as this to taken as true.

 

[tinpan]

Hi HMS Stirling Castle was a 70 gun third rate ship of the line built in 1679 sunk in 1703 Goodwin of Deal . Strange how the exact wording of the latter ship is the same . Different ship builders When did ranks of the Royal Navy show the symbolism of the Freemasons ? TP

 

[ECS]

My "Theory" has the 18th Century Freemasons burying all the "Treasures" entrusted to them over Centuries: Shakespeare's manuscripts, Francis Bacon's written knowledge, Historical documents, Knights Templar treasures, and the gold, silver, and jewels from the sacking of Havana.

Robot, are these Freemasons the four British Admirals that you claim looted Spanish treasure during the siege of Havana?
When and how did these Freemasons gain possession of Shakespeare's manuscripts, the works of Bacon, Knights Templar treasures, and other historical documents?
Is there any real actual documentation acknowledged by professional academic historians and scholars that confirms that these listed treasures were in these Admirals possession and that they carried these treasures to Oak Island and/or another location?

 

[ECS]

Hi HMS Stirling Castle was a 70 gun third rate ship of the line built in 1679 sunk in 1703 Goodwin of Deal . Strange how the exact wording of the latter ship is the same . Different ship builders When did ranks of the Royal Navy show the symbolism of the Freemasons ? Closet Queen Conjure or Freemason Secrets One in the same TP

That was the first HMS Stirling Castle, four others followed, 1705, 1742 (which was at the Siege of Havana)1775, and 1811.
Reckon the Royal British Navy liked that name.

 

[tinpan]

That was the first HMS Stirling Castle, four others followed, 1705, 1742 (which was at the Siege of Havana)1775, and 1811.
Reckon the Royal British Navy liked that name.

Hi ,I was talking about the 70 GUN THIRD RATE SHIP OF LINE Term no the name . TP

 

[tinpan]

Hi Never once mentioned Sailing Ship Ballast Ajustments . The British could dry beach a 300 ton ship with cannon in uncharted waters more than 300 years ago .Journals of the Reobuck .It was also common for British ships to use unwanted heavy ordinances as ballast to supply their colonies with needy resource and reduce expenses . Guns of the HMS Nelson . TP

 

[Robot]

The Freemasons Of The 18th Century...Were Not The Boy Scouts Group You All Know!

They decided the future of Europe, England, Spain, Canada and America...over Kings, Queens and... the British Navy!

 

[Al D]

They decided the future of Europe, England, Spain, Canada and America...over Kings, Queens and... the British Navy!

LMFAO,

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I think Robot is confusing the Freemasons with the Illuminati.

I guess he holds the "Grand Unification Freemason Theory" that the Freemasons are responsible for all events and outcomes.

There are four fallback conspiracy theories:

Will of God (or gods, depending on your upbringing)

Freemasons

Aliens

We have no real control and events follow mostly uncontrollable circumstances.



The fourth is most terrifying and an already insecure person will embrace one of the others in vain hope that there is some control over chaos.

 

[LouMiller]

They decided the future of Europe, England, Spain, Canada and America...over Kings, Queens and... the British Navy!

LMAO

 

[Robot]

Hey Lou...Has Anyone Ever Accused You Of Being...A Man Of Few Words!

LMAO

 

[ECS]

They decided the future of Europe, England, Spain, Canada and America...over Kings, Queens and... the British Navy!

...and THEY are probably very aware of your posts revealing THEIR secrets.

 

[LouMiller]

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Yes , my wife say's it all the time. She also claims that i am easily amused.

 

[ECS]

When folks desire to believe in something, regardless all the contrary facts, they will manufacture all means of desperate evidences in order to cling to that belief.
Nowhere does this happen with more frequency then with treasure legends, which is why they survive as legends.

Which is very apparent on these Oak Island threads with all the different versions of who brought what from where and how did that coconut coir get there and on and on with no real proof requited.
"Confusion now hath made his masterpiece"- Shakespeare

 

[lokiblossom]

Which is very apparent on these Oak Island threads with all the different versions of who brought what from where and how did that coconut coir get there and on and on with no real proof requited.
"Confusion now hath made his masterpiece"- Shakespeare

Wow! And again, not proof, but "evidence", grounds for a belief!

Cheers, Loki