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  1. #16

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    try a photo again.

  2. #17

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    And a pic of GP from high.

  3. #18

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    That's where some retreating Confederates hid & camped after Glorietta. I suspect some marks are theirs.

    Yep and some of them treasure like Willie's. They had a camp from the time they entered NM around Las Palomas. One guy got over 50 cs buckle brass that had been striped of the lead some were around LP. Suspect they needed the lead fer dem bullets. Folks did not like that confederate money much, or them confederate I owe Yous.

    I suspect the rd rock was related to such. It has damage to it already and is now were near original location. Have tryed a bit to understand it.

    Were my interests now end up is the 33 parallel and the old stone foundation in that area. story goes with it as a German living in the area had saw a bunch of priest with mules and carts go into that area and when they left he built the place close to were it was. The geology in that area is interesting also. It had a spring at one time that still functions at times.

    As for claims I do try to find out who has them and get permision before going in there.

    A for the brothers, well what can one say? Every year more and more marks get damaged, and more get made! LOL

    Just for info the Rd map is in the GP area below the drolty hole and the tds claims/treasuretrove.

    Ahh what I usualy ask folks going out to hunt is Were are you going to dig and why? LOL Most areas I could give em a tour and they would realy wounder when I ask em that. Note I am not talking about them dowsers, they would dig any were due to there sticks crossed.

    Just a note on the lower hole and were some of the damage occured. Some one had built a GPR and located a signal that apeared to be a box. They waited for Drolty to leave and whent in with a back hoe. They did not find anything but when drolty came back he went there and started digging. Interesting for some one to claim the drill hole whent into gold to move from that location to were some one disturbed the ground dontcha think?

  4. #19

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    And for a good joke here is some rabbit ears.

  5. #20

    Jan 2008
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    LostCauses
    Ya might do good there, right cross the stream from that old Place. Access over the top there?

    I make out a compass in 1/8's. on the RD. Which way did the long shaft go? Or was an 1/8 missing? Also a sun sign and triangle with a pointing side. Did you draw what was on it?
    I had a pic of the tree with the rebel stuff on it, from near GP.

  6. #21

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    Well the rocks on the back side are still there as well as the cross in the tree of the back of the towers. At least the last time i checked. LOL

    The mule rock way out would take me some time to find again as it was covered up with a rock.

    As for the RD yes it seems to be a compass, though about half of the rock is missing. Making sure wich direction it shows creates a bit o trouble. It also shows the sun but does not get the true directions. It is one open to what ever one is willing to try.

    Its one of them things. Is RD some ones initials or a director?

    It is one of them things in my head as I move around on the mountain. One does gain a lot of info as one does such.

    I have also gone to geology in the trips. To find such a cave that goes for a long way is such that only certain areas show were such could be due to the old slips and faults.

    As for maps that show the right angle cross with initials, the ones I have seen all have the wrong initals. LOL

    For folks information a lot of the mountain has been run with diferent equipment. The one that had some of the more profound effects was the EM 1600. At the top of Cable canyon it had readings that still are unbelievable. That area is claimed as well as the area next to it due to some one looking for a silver mine in the same area. So far its all lead. That is way up close the top of cable canyon and close to the top of brushy mountain. Most of that area is claimed. One of these guys had some stuff riped off so they have gotten a bit paranoid up there. Oh well typical of those mountains.

    Folks are looking for the silver stash up there from the mine. There was an old cabin in the area. Material from in put it about 1860 and later. Interesting for that area. It would have been an interesting area up there back then.

    It is also the suspected area of one story By Buster Wards dad of a cave they all stopped work at the mine and went to thinking they would find treasure. From what was written they found a few corn cobs.






  7. #22
    Cptbil

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    Speaking of "Turtles"
    This is one of two That I know of, on Doc's 1st "find" !
    West side, below (south of) Palomas Gap!

    He's about 6-7 feet long and about 3' high
    I have never seen any mention of this kind of "Turtle" in any Treasure Book ( of "T" signs)
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    CptBil & Bugs

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    Cptbil

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    You have to look at the Photo with a very careful "Eye" 8) because there are several messages
    included with & about, the "Turtle" itself !
    The Turtle is about 100 yards from a Spanish "Look- at -Me" Rock ( A trail sign)
    This Site has more "T" Signs on it that I have ever seen or heard of before!
    It maybe indicating that this the "Mother of them All!" Cavern Treasure Area ?
    Anyone interested in spending a week or so there ?
    Doc & I will be up here some time this Summer !
    I believe that on my last trip, I located a "Hidden Canyon" thru my "Binocs" !
    Just below a 3d Image of a full lenght Indian, about 5-600 ' up a sheer cliff !
    CptBil & Bugs

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    Cptbild

    Oct 2005
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    Goldseeker7:
    We are getting things lined up for our 12+ month(s) long trip
    Much of the time, will be spent in The Caballos
    And!
    Over in "Dog Canon" ! (So. of Alamogordo)
    On both sides (E/W) & both ends (No./So.) of the Caballos
    After, we get back from a couple of sites in Southern Arizona
    Could you send me a Time/date & phone number so that we can get together and
    talk over some real serious TH'ing ?
    I will be flying over and around the Mnts to have a quick look
    & take some aerial photos
    I'd like to include your site(s)
    Things look a lot different from up there!
    Can we " Make a Deal " ?
    Could be very profitable for all concerned
    Cptbild & Bugs

  10. #25

    Jan 2008
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    Hey Bill
    I'll send you a number via private email... I have a couple HOT spots you can check out, I have the co-ords to make it easy.. I'm a solid 51% should you or yours find treasure or anything based on my input/information. Deal?
    You would have to determine possible access permission on one. The other is harder but free.
    Both of these sites can be worked with a good Detector. One site would contain bars and or a certain chest of stuff; the other would be bars only, probably Silver... but who knows? (-;
    G7

  11. #26
    red c gang

    Dec 2005
    virginia
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    was ta kin to a place on the road going to hatch when i lived there by Harvey snows son roger who was living in ca and he new all the good places in new Mexico! if you no your history of the area and the story's of the area from Nixon's era you.ll know who snow was!! well i was friends with roger and was at many great places including the one on your map from the stone! it is right off the road near a radio tower and dump and when you get to the top near the tower you can see hatch and you will see many other things that will blow your mined !"marking wise; also openings blasted shut! you will no you jump off onto the right road off the main one when you see just past the dump area and start up the road towards the tower a big carving of a Indian riding a horse! just one note! i wish i had the resourses that some of you guys had to go on your hunts;boy i could show you some stuff!! keep truckin,red c gang
    rcg

  12. #27

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    roger is still alive.

  13. #28

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    Just an FYI for some of you guys reading old Spanish maps. They made efforts to disguise everything, even the maps, should they fall into the wrong hands. One tactic used was to flip North and South on the map. They would generally leave East to West correct. In other words, backward.
    You might also try looking at your map reflected in a mirror. I have personal experience with both of these techniques that sometimes changes the whole perspective.
    Let me know if it helps anyone!

    The radio towers on top of the Caballos are north of & part of Timber Mountain. I have looked around up there some. Its a beautiful place, one can see hundreds of miles. I watched a forest fire burn over in the Black range from there one time. I suppose the spot referred to is up there? Its rough. There are old vehicles up there down in the raveens that never made it back out. You will find many strange and amazing things hiking from that top down toward Longbottom. Don't try it unless you are knowledgeable & well prepared.... you'll need ropes.

  14. #29

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    A great area you are talking about. Ropes? Yep have learned to take em with me in my older age. LOL had a knee lock in the middle of a cliff. That will teach one to carry, and use them ropes. down of the face and twords the beak (south of of the west face) is what they call angles landing. Some crazy folks digging in that rock pile. Of off the face of that is were George use to hunt. He said he was shown by Whitey an entrance when he was a kid. He died of a heart atack on the mountain, doing what he loved. Spent a bit oh time in them arreas as well as the north area also.

    A lot of story,s in that area.

  15. #30

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    It has been siad to come from a few diferent places.

    The rock is such that it is a reverse on one pic according to some. It is also on a New Mexico postcard.

 

 
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