DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County DREDGING STARTED Updated AUG 7, 2008

[bjw]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

Sounds like they continue to drag their feet. Thanks for the update. How did you make out in the yard you were going to hunt?
BJW

 

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[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

stupid me, I forgot the name of the road.
tried to find it by memory.
didn't work. before I knew it I was
winding all over back roads and ended up miles
away.
going to need to wait till my next trip out.
no worry it's a good ways off till fall anyway.
and I pulled the thread to keep it unknown
for now

 

[mtntrekr2]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

I was told the dirt was going to Guer's topsoil in the tuscarora- new philadelphia area.

Joe

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

Could be Possible Joe.

I was out Wednsday.
There is a dozer sitting along Lake Front Drive
But Still no Action.

Will check again Thursday.

 

[bjw]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

thanks for the update, Jeff. I was off line the last few days, moving to another house.
BJW

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

I'll be Checking again Tomorrow or Friday.

Have Fun Moving

Jeff

 

[bjw]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

I'll be waiting to see what you hear.
and moving; oh it's almost as much fun as sliding down a razor blade.
BJW

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

Ran by today.

The Dozer is gone, Guess they needed it elswhere.

 

[mtntrekr2]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

I found out last night at work the hold up with the dredging is that they need another permit. They are waiting for one from the Army Corp of Engineers. Yep should have it by the time we all retire and are unable to move anymore.
Just a little update for everyone interested.
Joe and Better Half Kathy

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

Thanks.

That's sort of what happend out at Sweet Arrow Lake.

Army Corp had to do their Testing
& Surveying, then all of a sudden
I believe the County got tired of waiting
then the Money wasn't there anymore
and the county let it fill & put it on the Stocking list.

The difference at Deer Lake, there is no room for water
anymore. it's all Silt & High weeds now.

and of course somebody saw a Box Turtle or Spider or something
at Swatara State park & the Army Corp shut that Dam Project Down.

My guess 10 years from Now Army Corp will
declare Deer Lake wetlands because of an Earth Worm
and it will never happen.

 

[bjw]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED

That would even be funnier if it weren't so true, Jeff!
Wetlands really is just another way of saying we don't want to be bothered and will let the mosquito's take over.
BJW

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Update, OCT. 19

Expected permit will aid Deer Lake


10/19/2007
Email to a friendPrinter-friendlyDEER LAKE — After nearly two years, Deer Lake council President David B. Crouse will finally get to the bottom of the problem with his borough’s 14-acre reservoir — literally.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said Wednesday the borough should receive a permit within the next few weeks to remove silt from the reservoir, hopefully before a window of opportunity for the project closes.

“I guess there was a little misunderstanding in the beginning about whether they needed a permit or not. They do need one and he’s going to do his best to expedite it while they still have the weather to be able to do it,” U.S. Rep. T. Timothy Holden, D-17, said Tuesday.

Holden’s office has been working with the Army Corps of Engineers to move the permit process forward.

By the end of the day Wednesday, a federal official was able to announce that the issue of a state general permit may be imminent.

“We’re looking to probably be able to issue a permit as early as next week,” said Ed Voigt, public affairs spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers’ Philadelphia district.

He said the permit should at least be issued over the next few weeks, hopefully within the remaining month of suitable weather before the end of the year.

Crouse said delays of almost six months have already nearly cost him the project, which was carefully pieced together to avoid the enormous costs potentially involved.

“I’ve lost the dry season over bureaucracy,” Crouse said.

He said the lake has been drawn down since late 2005 when the borough used $56,000 in funding from the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency to repair silt collection basins damaged by Hurricane Ivan in 2004.

“You could walk out on it. It’s as dry as can be,” Crouse said.

He said borough officials had originally been under the impression no permit was needed for the project then later discovered it was.

Besides bureaucratic entanglements, Crouse faced a money issue.

When work to remove silt was last done at the reservoir in 1986, the cost was more than $150,000 but included repair to the dam breast.

However, Crouse also believes total costs would be higher now, more than 20 years later, and his tiny borough of 600 residents could not hope to foot the bill.

One problem is that no public funding for municipalities exists for silt removal alone, Crouse said, although he did manage to get some silt removal funded in the 2005 and 2006 project since it was necessary to complete hurricane repair.

Instead, Crouse worked out a deal with Guers Topsoil and Mulch Products, New Philadelphia, to remove the soil and market it with the borough to reimburse any costs the contractor cannot recoup.

Although he still has no idea what that cost might be, Crouse said state Rep. David G, Argall, R-124, and state Sen. James J. Rhoades, R-29, have already pledged $20,000 each to cover that cost, he said.

“Our project is a small example of what’s happening on a large scale across the state,” Crouse said.

He said with little or no funding to cover major silt removal projects in bodies of water as large as the Susquehanna and Delaware rivers and as small as Tamaqua’s Owl Creek Reservoir, communities will need to find new options to complete needed work in the future.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18934584&BRD=2626&PAG=461&dept_id=532624&rfi=6

 

[soopacee]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

anyone go here yet?

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

Not this year yet.
Do you know if the dredging Started ?

I'm thinking of running out This weekend.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

At this point both sat & sun low 60's & chance of Rain.

Check here Thursday afternoon for a final decision If your intrested.

 

[deepskyal]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

Wow...some history. Not the lake but your post Jeff from Oct.8th,2006......"$1.16 found...almost enough for a gallon of gas"!!!

Hope you find a lot more this time.
Al

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

Wow...some history. Not the lake but your post Jeff from Oct.8th,2006......"$1.16 found...almost enough for a gallon of gas"!!!

Hope you find a lot more this time.
Al

Yea Not alot of Finds there Yet but I'm still Confident
the site will Produce. especially if and when they dredge the lake.

what they dredged from the creek and dumped in the wooded area
should be detectable now. I didn't hit it then
because it was just piles of mud at that time

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

Went by the Lake Yesterday.
No work started on it yet.

 

[bjw]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

thanks for the update, Jeff. If & when and if you want company just give a holler. I'll dig the shallow targets and leave the deep ones for you. At my age I try to conserve my energy!
BJW

 

[mtntrekr2]

Re: DEER LAKE : Schuylkill County to be DREDGED Updated OCT. 19

I asked about the lake at work today. And talking to someone who has the connections and knowledge says it is now scheduled for August.

As I hear more I will post.
Joe