British LCM MK1

[Narked1]

Am looking on information on the British LCM MK1. Located one in about 7-8 Meters of water earlier this week a bit west of EL Alamein. Have been trying to identify which LCM it is. Have "Googled" it to death and have come up with 30 "possibles" from the 500 MK1's that were produced and are listed as sunk or missing (Listed as either lost in the Mid-East, Med, or Overseas). Don't know where to look for any additional identifying numbers other than the keel (which I can't get too). Serial numbers on the diesels have long since corroded to the point of not being readable. Any ideas?

Am thinking that if I can locate a list of ships British ships that were operating off the coast during WW2, that I can narrow the number of possiblities down by finding out what ship's would be carrying which LCM's.

The LCM is complete, even the screws (props) are still there. And the bridge console gauges are still intact. Engine compartment is pretty much filled with sand, as is the rest of the interior below decks. Alas, no treasure to be found, in the financial sense. But in the historical sense it's a good find and I may be able to contribute to the historical records of the LCM losses if I can identify it.

Will post some pics when I get them back from the developer (still using 35mm here, haven't upgraded to a digital underwater cam yet).

Any help would be appreciated,
Mike

[Cablava]

You might find it here if you can find the number


http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Brit...esbyArea06.htm

WESTERN EUROPE and BRITISH HOME WATERS 1944-45

1944

44/ Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.652, 669 (total 2, 9-11t each) Lost in Home Waters, presumed during 1944

January 1944

44/01 Ferry service vessel SANDVIKHORN (R, 78t nett, 1917) Sunk in collision, Londonderry, N Ireland

44/01/06 Trawler WALLASEA (545t, 31/7/43) Sunk by surface craft, torpedo, off Mounts Bay, Cornwall

44/01/16 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1029 (611-640t) Blew up, possibly mined, while at anchor off Skegness, E England

44/01/17 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.367 (150t type) Wrecked on passage Dartmouth to Portland, S England

44/01/19 Landing craft assault LCA No.783. 790, 865 (total 3, 11-13.5t each) Lost in Home Waters off E Scotland. Date reported

44/01/22 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.616 (9-11t) Broke adrift and badly holed in Home Waters

44/01/29 Landing craft assault LCA No.845 (11-13.5t) Became waterlogged and sank during exercises off Leith, E Scotland.

44/01/29 Yacht ORACLE (745t) Destroyed by fire off Liverpool, NE England

44/01/31 Trawler PINE (545t, 3/7/40) Sunk by E-boat, torpedo, off Selsey Bill, Sussex

February 1944

44/02 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.192, 234, 254, 279, 282, 327, 329, 367 (total 8, 30-37t each) Lost in Home Waters. Date reported

44/02 Landing craft vehicle LCV No.894 (10-11t) Lost on service with Royal Army Service Corps, CTC, Rothesay, Scotland. Date reported

44/02 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1066 (10.5-13.5t) Lost during exercises, Richborough area, Kent, SE England.

44/02/02 Landing craft infantry (Small) LCI(S) No.511 (110t) Beached at Portslade, Sussex, S England. Total loss.

44/02/07 Submarine, midget/X-Craft X-22 (29.8t, 31/10/43) Lost in collision, Pentland Firth, N Scotland

44/02/09 Landing craft assault LCA No.552 (11-13.5t) Wrecked during exercises off E Scotland.

44/02/13 Trawler CAP D'ANTIFER (R) Sunk by E-boat off Humber, E England

44/02/14 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.781 (9-11t) Lost in collision, Home Waters

44/02/15 Motor launch ML No.210 (On loan to R Norwegian Navy, 75t, 7/4/41) Sunk by mine off Dieppe

44/02/18 Yacht BREDA (1,207t) Sank after collision, Campbeltown Loch, Scotland

44/02/20 Destroyer WARWICK (1,200t, 1918) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, off W Cornwall, SW England

44/02/24 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.152 (8-11t) Wrecked during exercises in Home Waters

44/02/29 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.541 (8-11t) Lost off Isle of Wight, S England. Date given as 28th-29th

March 1944

44/03/01 Landing craft assault LCA No.726, 908 (total 2, 11-13.5t each) Lost in Home Waters.

44/03/02 Landing ship tank (Class II) LST No.362 (2,750t, 23/11/42) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, Biscay area

44/03/03 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.69 (13.5t) Sunk during exercises off E Scotland

44/03/13 Landing craft assault (Hedgerow) LCA No.689 (12t) Sank in Home Waters.

44/03/16 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.417 (37t, 8/9/42) Sunk by surface vessel, whilst attacking convoy between Calais and Boulogne. Date given as 15th-16th

44/03/20 Submarine P-715(ex-GRAPH, German prize vessel, 880t) Dismantled, broke adrift and lost on West Coast of Islay, W Scotland

44/03/26 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.352 (37t, 31/5/43) Sunk in collision, North Sea. Date given as 25th-26th

44/03/28 Submarine SYRTIS (715t, 23/4/43) Sunk by mine off Bodo, Norway

44/03/31 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.241 (38t, 30/3/42) Sunk by enemy action off ljmuiden and Helder

April 1944

44/04/02 Landing craft assault (Hedgerow) LCA No.672, 811 (total 2, 12t each) Foundered during exercises off E Scotland.

44/04/06 Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.9 (6t) Driven ashore at Weymouth, S England

44/04/10 Drifter FORECAST (96t, 1925) Sunk at Greenock, Scotland

44/04/18 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.707 (95t, 11/43) Cut in two in collision off N Ireland

44/04/24 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.671 (95t, 16/5/43) Sunk in torpedo attack on destroyers off Barfleur, N France

44/04/24 Tug ROODE ZEE (R, 468t) Sunk by E-boat, torpedo,off Dungeness, SE England

May 1944

44/05 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.584 (9-11t) Sunk in Home Waters.

44/05/05 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.708 (95t, 11/43) Damaged by friendly aircraft English Channel, and subsequently sunk by own forces

44/05/20 Trawler WYOMING (R, 302t, 1915) Mined and sunk off Harwich, E England

44/05/23 Landing barge, ramped dumb No.83 (100t type) 44/05/23 Sank on passage to Sheerness, SE England

44/05/28 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.732 (97t, 17/4/44) Sunk by accident, English Channel

June 1944

44/06 Landing craft infantry (Small) LCI(S) No.512, 517, 524, 531, 540 (total 5, 110t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.577 (52t) Lost in Operation Overlord, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.895 (9-11t) Damaged and sunk, Portsmouth area, S England

44/06 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.970 (9-11t) Lost in Home Waters. Date reported

44/06 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.894, 896 (total 2, 9-11t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.136 (6t) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.75, 76, 80, 81, 83, 91, 99, 101, 103, 108, 114 (total 11, 13.5t each) Lost in Operation Neptune Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft tank (Armoured) (MkV) LCT No.2273, 2301, 2402 (total 3, on loan to US Navy, 290-295t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft tank (Armoured) (MkV) LCT No.2428 (290-295t) Lost in Operation Neptune. Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.524, 715, 750, 809, 886, 947 (total 6, 611-640t) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06 Landing craft tank (MkV) LCT No.2498 (291-311t) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France.

44/06 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1016, 1029, 1031, 1033, 1044-1046, 1049,1054, 1056, 1062, 1065, 1084, 1088, 1093, 1098, 1101, 1102, 1104, 1106, 1111, 1114, 1117, 1120-1122, 1124, 1129, 1132, 1133, 1139, 1146, 1153, 1155, 1157, 1159, 1165, 1170-1172, 1184, 1188, 1201, 1204, 1211, 1216, 1218, 1242, 1245, 1246, 1248, 1249, 1251, 1255, 1260, 1262, 1264 (total 57, 10.5-13.5t each) 44/06 Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France. Date approximate

44/06/06 Destroyer SVENNER (ex-SHARK, on loan to R Norwegian Navy, 1,710t, 18/3/44) Sunk by surface ship, torpedo, off Normandy

44/06/06 Destroyer WRESTLER (1,100t, 1918) Damaged beyond repair by mine off Normandy

44/06/06 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.248 (41t, 4/3/43) Sunk in collision, English Channel

44/06/06 Landing craft tank (MkV) LCT No.2049, 2229, 2307 (total 3, on loan to US Navy, 291-311t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06/08 Frigate LAWFORD (1,150t, 3/11/43) Bombed and sunk on service as HQ ship,Normandy

44/06/08 Landing craft infantry (Large) LCI(L) No.105 (380-384t) Torpedoed, Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06/08 Netlayer MINSTER (R, 707t, 1924) Sunk by mine, Seine Bay, Normandy

44/06/09 Cruiser DURBAN (4,850t, 1919) Sunk as blockship for Mulberry Harbour, Normandy, N France

44/06/09 Training ship CENTURION (ex-battleship, 25,500t, 1913) Sunk as blockship for Mulberry Harbour, Normandy

44/06/10 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.681 (95t, 7/43) Sunk when attacking convoy off Holland. Date given as 9th-10th

44/06/11 Motor gun boat MGB No.17 (30t, 19/12/40) Sunk, possibly mined, off Normandy

44/06/11 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.448 (37t, 23/9/43) Sunk by accident in torpedo attack by friendly aircraft off Normandy

44/06/11 Tug SESAME (700t, 18/1/44) Sunk by E-boat, torpedo, off Normandy

44/06/13 Destroyer BOADICEA (1,360t, 1931) Sunk by aircraft, torpedo, off Portland, English Channel

44/06/13 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.229 (255t, 25/10/42) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/06/14 Water boat CHANT 69 (R, 400t, 1944) Capsized off Normandy

44/06/15 Frigate BLACKWOOD (1,150t, 29/3/43) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, English Channel

44/06/15 Frigate MOURNE (1,365t, 30/4/43) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, English Channel

44/06/19 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.905 (9-11t) Lost in bad weather in Home Waters

44/06/20 Tug SOLITAIRE (91t, 1904) Capsized and sank off Normandy

44/06/21 Destroyer FURY (1,350t, 1935) Damaged beyond repair by mine off Normandy

44/06/21 Harbour tender SENGA (R) Sunk in collision off Londonderry, N Ireland

44/06/24 Destroyer SWIFT (1,710t, 6/12/43) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/06/24 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.8 (255t, 8/1/41) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/06/24 Trawler LORD AUSTIN (R, 473t, 1937) Mined and sunk, Seine Bay, Normandy

44/06/25 Landing barge, emergency repair No.8, 17, 25-27, 57, 60 (total 7, 200t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, oiler No.10 (150t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, oiler No.46, 56, 81 (total 3, 200t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, vehicle (Mk1) No.3, 27, 49, 61, 67, 94, 95, 103, 209, 214 (total 10, 150t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, vehicle (MkII) No.172, 176, 206, 232 (total 4, 200t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, water No.7 (150t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing barge, water No.15 (200t type) Written off charge as result of damage caused in assault area during gale, Normandy Landings. Date given as 19th-25th

44/06/25 Landing craft headquarter LCH No.185 (384t) Sunk by mine, Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06/26 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.734 (97t, 30/5/44) Damaged by Beaufighters and eventually sunk by own forces, North Sea

44/06/28 Motor gun boat MGB No.326 (67t, 18/8/41) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/06-07 Landing craft assault (Hedgerow) LCA No.671. 690, 965, 1072 (total 4, 12t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06-07 Landing craft assault LCA No.171, 208, 279, 289, 303, 320, 337, 339, 341, 349, 350, 352, 360, 367, 383, 387, 401, 409. 418, 424, 431, 434, 442, 458, 462, 463, 476, 48.5, 494, 496, 503, 509, 318-520,522, 525, 530, 535, 540, 566, 579, 581, 584, 586, 588-590, 592-594, 611, 613, 623, 637, 642, 649-652, 655, 661, 664, 665, 673, 683, 691, 692, 704, 705, 710, 717, 721, 722, 729, 731, 738, 748, 750, 768, 775, 779, 780, 788, 791, 792, 795-797,803, 808-810, 812, 814, 815, 821, 825, 827, 835, 849, 853, 857, 859, 860, 867, 869-871, 879, 881, 886, 900, 903, 911, 913, 914, 918-920, 929, 933, 946, 949, 958, 978, 984, 998-1000, 1005, 1008, 1013, 1016, 1021, 1024, 1026-1028, 1034, 1050, 1057/1059, 1063, 1068, 1069, 1074, 1082, 1086, 1088, 1091, 1093, 1096, 1129, 1131, 1132, 1137, 1138, 1143, 1144, 1146, 1149-1151,1155, 1156, 1213, 1215, 1216, 1251-1253, 1256, 1338-1341, 1343, 1372, 1379, 1381/1383 (total 184, 11-13.5t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06-07 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.127, 128, 165, 168, 180, 191, 203, 216, 226, 229, 231, 241, 251, 281, 316, 319, 330, 335, 337, 338, 345, 346, 348, 355, 357, 377, 382, 383, 408, 409, 419, 421, 425, 443, 444, 466 (total 36, 30-37t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/06-07 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.531, 535, 568, 587, 627, 628, 631, 641, 908, 929, 1053.1059,1062, 1088, 1098, 1108, 1120, 1127, 1128, 1139, 1145, 1146, 1161, 1175, 1189, 1197, 1200, 1207, 1208, 1212, 1220, 1221, 1227, 1232, 1233, 1240, 1244, 1278, 1282, 1293, 1297, 1397 (total 42, 52t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normany Landings, N France

44/06-07 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.13, 14, 21-23, 40, 51, 121, 132, 139, 170, 175, 176, 187, 189, 197, 199, 208, 272, 280, 282, 285, 286, 289, 309, 312, 528, 556 (total 28, 8-11t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

July 1944

44/07 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.229, 298/300, 303/305, 308, 310 (total 9, 8-11t each) Lost in Home Waters.

44/07 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.683 (9-11t) Lost in action off coast of France. Date reported

44/07/02 Landing ship infantry (Large) LSI(L) EMPIRE BROADSWORD (4,285t) Sunk by mine off Normandy, N France

44/07/02 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.1019 (360t, 23/8/43) Sunk by mine off Cherbourg

44/07/03 Landing craft assault LCA No.1393 (11-13.5t) Lost in Operation Overlord, Normandy Landings, N France

44/07/03 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.460 (On loan to RCN, 41t, 22/3/44) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/07/05 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.666 (95t, 10/6/43) Sunk by surface craft off Holland. Date given is 4th-5th

44/07/05 Trawler GANILLY (545t, 3/9/43) Sunk by mine, English Channel

44/07/06 Minesweeper CATO (1,110t, 29/7/43) Sunk by human torpedo, off Normandy

44/07/06 Minesweeper MAGIC (1,110t, 28/10/43) Sunk by human torpedo, off Normandy

44/07/07 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.138 (30-37t) Lost, English Channel.

44/07/07 Fighter direction tender FDT No.216 (2,750t, 4/3/43) Sunk by aircraft, torpedo, off Barfleur, N France.

44/07/08 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.267 (8-11t) Sunk by mine off Cherbourg, N France

44/07/08 Minesweeper PYLADES (1,110t, 27/11/43) Sunk by human torpedo, off Normandy

44/07/08 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.463 (On loan to RCN, 41t, 25/3/44) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/07/08 Cruiser DRAGON (On loan to Polish Navy, 4,850t, 1918) Damaged by human torpedo, off Normandy. Constructive total loss

44/07/09 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.434 (37t, 25/1/43) Sunk by surface craft off Normandy

44/07/10 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.55 (255t, 3/9/41) Sunk by mine off Normandy

44/07/13 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1288 (10.5-13.5t) Lost in Home Waters,

44/07/14 Landing craft assault LCA No.1304 (11-13.5t) Lost in heavy weather in Home Waters

44/07/20 Destroyer ISIS (1,370t, 1937) Sunk by human torpedo or mine off Normandy

44/07/27 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.412 (37t, 14/2/42) Sunk in collision off Normandy. Date given as 26th-27th

44/07/27 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.430 (37t, 16/11/42) Rammed by E-boat off Normandy. Date given as 26th-27th

44/07/27 Submarine B1(ex/SUNFISH, on loan to Soviet Navy, 670t, 1937) Lost on passage to USSR with Soviet crew

44/07/28 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.971 (9-11t) Lost in collision in Home Waters

44/07/29 Landing ship infantry (Small) LSI(S) PRINCE LEOPOLD (R, 2,938t, 1930) Torpedoed by U-boat, capsized and sank, English Channel

44/07/29 Trawler LORD WAKEFIELD (825t deep, 1933) Sunk by aircraft off Normandy

44/07-08 Landing craft gun (Large) (MkIII) LCG(L) No.764, 831, 1062 (total 3, 530t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

August 1944

44/08/03 Trawler GAIRSAY (545t, 30/4/43) Sunk by human torpedo off Normandy

44/08/03 Escort destroyer QUORN (1,000t, 21/9/40) Sunk by human torpedo or mine off Normandy

44/08/14 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.154 (150t type) Sank at moorings off Portsmouth, S England

44/08/14 Landing craft infantry (Large) LCI(L) No.99 (380-384t) Sunk in convoy, presumed by U-boat, Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/08/16 Motor gun boat MGB No.313 (67t, 12/6/41) Sunk by mine or torpedo off Normandy

44/08/17 Landing craft flak (MkII) LCF No.1 (500-540t) Blew up and sank, Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/08/18 Examination vessel FRATTON (R, 757t, 1925) Sunk at anchor by underwater explosion, probably torpedoed by surface craft, Seine Bay, Normandy

44/08/18 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.93 (38t, 10/9/42) Lost in collision off Harwich, E England

44/08/22 Minesweeper LOYALTY (940t, 22/4/43) Sunk by mine, or U-boat torpedo, English Channel

44/08/25 Trawler CHOICE (R, 197t) Foundered, total wreck, Arromanches, Normandy

44/08/25 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1074 (611-640t) Mined, English Channel

44/08/27 Minesweeper BRITOMART (815t, 24/8/39) Sunk by accident in attack by friendly aircraft off Normandy

44/08/27 Minesweeper HUSSAR (815t, 1935) Sunk by accident in attack by friendly aircraft off Normandy

44/08-09 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.84, 85, 88, 97, 98, 110, 118, 128, 137, 145, 146, 149, 162, 163, 198, 200, 230/233, 235, 238, 239, 241, 242, 246, 247, 269, 293. 294 (total 30, On loan to US Navy, 8-11t each) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

September 1944

44/09/02 Auxiliary anti/aircraft ship GLEN AVON (R, 678t deep, 1912) Foundered in gale, Seine Bay, Normandy

44/09/05 Landing craft flak (MkIV) LCF No.31 (500-510t) Lost in Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France. Date reported

44/09/11 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.263 (30-37t) Wrecked on beach, Operation Neptune, Normandy Landings, N France

44/09/14 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.278 (255t, 8/3/43) Stranded on rocks in La Rance River, St Malo, N France

44/09/26 Landing craft assault LCA No.848, 1378 (total 2, 11-13.5t each) Lost in heavy weather in Home Waters

44/09/26 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.999 (9-11t) Sunk in gale in Home Waters

44/09/27 Destroyer ROCKINGHAM (1,190t, 1919) Sunk by mine, E Scotland

44/09/28 Motor launch ML No.216 (75t, 28/5/41) Foundered in heavy weather after being mined (19th), North Sea

October 1944

44/10/01 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.360 (37t, 30/6/43) Sunk by surface craft off Ymuiden, Holland

44/10/01 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.347 (37t, 18/3/43) Sunk by surface craft off Ymuiden, Holland

44/10/05 BYMS Minesweeper BYMS No.2255 (290t, 30/11/43) Sunk by mine, Boulogne, N France

44/10/06 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.7, 18 (total 2, 8-11t each) Lost in Home Waters

44/10/06 Trawler VIDONIA (R, 276t) Sunk in collision, English Channel

44/10/08 BYMS Minesweeper BYMS No.2030 (290t, 30/7/42) Sunk by mine off Le Havre, N France

44/10/11 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.52 (8-11t) Lost by fire, Portsmouth Area, S England

44/10/13 Landing craft tank (Armoured) (MkV) LCT No.2454 (290-295t) Ran ashore in Lyme Bay, English Channel, in heavy gale. Wrecked.

44/10/18 Landing craft vehicle LCV No.801 (10-11t) Broke adrift and holed, Portsmouth area, S England

44/10/19 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.480, 488, 491, 494, 7014, 7015 (total 6, 625-640t each) Lost through stress of weather off Land's End, SW England. Date given as 18th-19th

44/10/21 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.1011 (9-11t) Lost in collision in Home Waters.

44/10/23 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1171 (611-640t) Sunk off N European Coast.

44/10/25 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1045 (611-640t) Broke in two while in tow, English Channel.

44/10/30 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.936 (611-640t) Broke back through stress of weather off Lowestoft, E England

November 1944

44/11 Sailing barge DELTA (1898) Sank at Harty Point, Sheppey, SE England

44/11/01 Landing craft flak (MkIV) LCF No.37, 38 (total 2, 500-510t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren landings, Holland

44/11/01 Landing craft gun (Medium) (MkIII) LCG(M) No.101, 102 (total 2, 381t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/01 Landing craft infantry (Small) LCI(S) No.532 (110t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/01 Landing craft support (Large) (MkII) LCS(L) No.252, 256, 258 (total 3, 112t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/02 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.7011 (625-640t) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/02 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.789, 839, 1133 (total 3, 611-640t) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/02 Trawler COLSAY (554t, 4/3/44) Sunk by human torpedo off Ostend, Belgium

44/11/02 Landing craft gun (Large) (MkIII) LCG(L) No.I, 2 (total 2, 500t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland

44/11/05 Drifter SUPPORTER (R, 88t, 1914) Grounded off Newhaven, S England. Total loss. Date given as 4th-5th

44/11/05 Landing craft assault LCA No.713, 725, 817, 831, 843, 1018, 1030, 1079, 1125, 1260 (total 10, 11-13.5t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland. Date given as 2nd-5th

44/11/05 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.133 (8-11t) Lost in Schelde River Area, Belgium

44/11/05 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.302 (8-11t) Wrecked E of Ostend, Belgium

44/11/05 Landing craft tank (Rocket) LCT(R) No.457 (600t) Mined off Ostend, Belgium

44/11/06 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.609 (611-640t) Abandoned after damage by weather off Ostend, Belgium

44/11/07 Landing craft assault LCA No.551 (11-13.5t) Lost in heavy weather, River Blackwater, Essex, SE England

44/11/07 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.976 (611-640t) Abandoned with broken back, Schelde River area, Belgium

44/11/07 Special service vessel GRETHE MORTENSEN (R, 35t, 1943) Abandoned in sinking condition off N Foreland, Kent, SE England

44/11/07 Landing ship tank (Class II) LST No.420 (2,750t, 16/2/43) Sunk by mine off Ostend.

44/11/08 Motor launch ML No.916 (75t, 16/9/44) Sunk by mine at Walsoorden, Holland,

44/11/10 Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.129 (6t) Lost by fire at Hythe, S England

44/11/17 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1022 (611-640t) Wrecked through stress of weather off Dungeness, SE England

44/11/18 Trawler TRANSVAAL (R, 250t) Foundered in gale, English Channel

44/11/19 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.340, 424 (total 2, 30-37t each) Lost overboard from "John L Manson" in Mount's Bay, Cornwall, SW England

44/11/20 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1103 (10.5-13.5t) Abandoned at Chichester, S England

44/11/25 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1129 (10.5-13.5t) Sank, Portsmouth area, S England

44/11/27 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1228 (10.5-13.5t) Lost in Home Waters.

44/11/29 Landing craft assault LCA No.614 (11-13.5t) Lost in heavy weather, English Channel

44/11/29 Sailing barge DUNDONALD (50t,1897) Foundered when moored off Chatham, SE England

December 1944

44/12 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.127, 134 (total 2, 8-11t each) Lost in Operation Infatuate, Walcheren Landings, Holland. Date reported

44/12 Sailing barge E.F.Q. (32t, 1900) Sank at Sheerness, SE England

44/12/02 Trawler NORTHCOATES (R, 277t) Sank in tow, through stress of weather, English Channel

44/12/03 Collier P.L.M. 21 (R, 5,400, 1921) Grounded off Milford Haven, SW Wales. Subsequently sank

44/12/06 Frigate BULLEN (1,300t, 25/10/43) Sunk by U-boat torpedo, NW Scotland

44/12/06 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.7089 (625-640t) Hit obstruction in Boulogne Harbour, N France. Total loss.

44/12/11 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.257 (255t, 9/10/43) Sunk by mine, River Schelde, Holland

44/12/15 Transport vessel TRIUMPH VI (R, 46t, 1903) Sunk in collision, Rosyth area, Scotland

44/12/16 Tanker/oiler WAR DIWAN (5,550t, 1919) Sunk by mine, River Schelde, Holland

44/12/17 Harbour defence vessel MANORA (R, 1936) Lost through fouling boom

44/12/26 Frigate CAPEL (1,150t, 16/8/43) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, off Cherbourg, NW France

44/12/28 Landing ship infantry (Large) LSI(L) EMPIRE JAVELIN (4,285t) Lost on passage from Portsmouth to Le Havre. Believed torpedoed by U-boat.

44/12/29 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.782 (108t, 25/10/44) Sunk by mine off River Schelde, Holland

1945

January 1945

45/01/02 Balloon barrage vessel SVERRE (R, 1938) Foundered in two off E Coast of England

45/01/02 Trawler HAYBURN WYKE (R, 324t, 1917) Torpedoed by U-boat at anchor off Ostend, Belgium

45/01/15 Drifter GOLDEN WEST (R) Foundered in Aberdeen Harbour, E Scotland

45/01/18 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.11 (8-11t) Lost on passage from Brest to Cherbourg.

45/01/19 Balloon barrage vessel TANEVIK (R) Foundered in tow from Methil to Buckle, E Scotland

45/01/20 Landing barge, oiler No.17 (150t type) Swamped and sank in Arromanches Harbour during gale, N France

45/01/21 Trawler COMPUTATOR (R, 286t, 1919) Sunk in collision, Seine Bay, Normandy

45/01/23 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.1131 (52t) Lost in Arromanches Area, Normandy

45/01/26 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.1018 (9-11t) Lost in Scheldt area, Holland

45/01/30 Landing craft vehicle LCV No.814 (10-11t) Lost in Home Waters.

45/01/30 Motor Minesweeper MMS No.248 (255t, 11/9/43) Sank by mine off River Schelde, Holland

February 1945

45/02/03 Trawler ARLEY (R, 304t, 1914) Damaged by mine. Sank in tow, North Sea

45/02/11 Motor launch ML No.183 (75t, 10/2/41) Sunk after collision with East Pier, Dieppe, N France

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.255 (36t, 30/7/43) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.438 (37t, 31/3/43) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.444 (37t, 21/7/43) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.459 (On loan to RCN, 41t, 2/3/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.461 (On loan to RCN, 41t, 15/3/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.462 (On loan to RCN, 41t, 25/3/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.465 (On loan to RCN 41t, 31/3/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.466 (On loan to RCN 41t, 18/4/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.776 (108t, 8/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.789 (108t, 17/10/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.791 (108t, 4/11/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/14 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.798 (108t, 16/10/44) Lost by fire and explosion, Ostend harbour, Belgium

45/02/15 Motor launch ML No.1417 (46t, 28/3/44) Sunk by mine, in tow, off Flushing, Holland

45/02/17 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.605 102t, 16/6/42) Foundered after striking sub/merged obstruction on passage Ostend to Dover

45/02/22 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.707 (9-11t) Lost by enemy action in Home Waters.

45/02/22 Landing ship tank (Class II) LST No.364 (2,750t, 7/12/42) Torpedoed by U-boat off Ramsgate, S England

45/02/23 Destroyer LA COMBATTANTE (ex-HALDON, on loan to French Navy, 1,050t, 30/12/42) Sank by mine, North Sea

45/02/24 Trawler ELLESMERE (580t, 12/10/39) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, English Channel

March 1945

45/03/17 Minesweeper GUYBOROUGH (On loan to RCN, 672t, 22/4/42) Sunk by U-boat, torpedo, Bay of Biscay

45/03/18 Landing craft personnel (Large) LCP(L) No.764 (8-11t) Lost in Home Waters.

45/03/18 Train ferry DAFFODIL (2,500t) Sank after being mined off Dieppe (17th)

45/03/20 Landing ship tank (Class II) LST No.80 (2,750t, 19/7/43) Mined in English Channel and sank off Ostend, Belgium

45/03/25 Motor launch ML No.466 (75t, 31/3/42) Sunk by mine off Walcheren, Holland

45/03/28 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.840 (9-11t) Lost by enemy action in Home Waters.

45/03/30 Drifter HIGH TIDE (R, 106t, 1919) Foundered off N Wales

April 1945

45/04/07 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.494 (44t, 9/11/44) Rammed and sunk by E-boats, North Sea

45/04/07 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.5001 (102t, 18/12/44) Sunk by E-boats, North Sea

45/04/22 Landing craft assault LCA No.841 (11-13.5t) Sunk in operations off Holland.

May 1945

45/05 Landing craft assault (Obstruction Clearance) LCA No.1211 (13.5t) Lost in Home Waters, presumed during 1945. Date reported

45/05/12 Motor gun boat MGB No.2002 (93t, 5/7/43) Sunk by mine on passage Aberdeen to Gothenburg, Sweden

45/05/19 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.715 (On loan to R Norwegian Navy, 102t, 9/12/43) Sunk by explosion at Fosnavaag, Norway

45/05/24 Motor gun boat MGB No.2007 (93t, 28/8/43) Broke in two off Aberdeen, Scotland, after grounding (22nd)

June 1945

45/06 Human torpedo/Chariot No.29/XXIX (1.2t, 18/1/43) Lost, W Scotland. Date reported

45/06 Human torpedo/Chariot No.31/XXX1 (1.2t, 19/1/43) Lost, W Scotland. Date reported

45/06 Human torpedo/Chariot No.34/XXXIV (1.2t, 8/2/43) Lost, W Scotland. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, oiler No.11, 21, 24, 26, 77, 82, 92, 95 (total 8, 150t type) Written off. Date reported

45/06 Human torpedo/Chariot No.5/V (1.2t, 1/9/42) Lost, W Scotland. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, ramped dumb No.114 (150t type) Written off. Date reported

July 1945

45/07/08 Trawler LA NANTAISE (R, 359) Sunk in collision off SE England

45/07/10 Trawler KURD (R, 352t, 1930) Sunk by mine off Lizard Head, Cornwall, SE England

45/07/13 Collier ROLFSBERG (R, 1,831t, 1915) Sunk in collision, Firth of Forth, E Scotland

45/07/15 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1167 (10-11t) Lost, Channel Islands, English Channel.

45/07/31 Landing barge, kitchen No. 8, Sank in tow, English Channel

August 1945

45/08/02 Landing craft vehicle LCV No.802 (10-11t) Lost in tow in Home Waters

November 1945

45/11/26 Landing barge, ramped dumb No.59 (150t type) Sank in Edinburgh Channel, Scotland

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Possibly WESTERN EUROPE 1944-45

1944

44/ Landing craft assault LCA No.226, 254, 347, 440, 487, 696, 753 (total 7, 11-13.5t each) Cause and place unknown

44/ Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.1 (6t) Cause and place unknown

44/ Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.49 (13.5t) Cause and place unknown

44/01/11 Drifter NOT MANN (R) Cause and place unknown

44/01/14 Naval auxiliary boat SPIDER BOY (14t) Cause and place unknown

44/02 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.136, 149, 497 (total 3, 150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/02 Special service vessel ALYNBANK (R, 5,157t, 1925) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE BUNTING (6,448t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE DEFIANCE (4,632t, 1909) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE FLAMINGO (5,200t, 1920) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE MOORHEN (5,617t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE TAMAR (6,581t, 1907) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel EMPIRE WATERHEN (6,004t, 1920) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel INGMAN (R, 3,169t, 1907) Sunk as blockship

44/02 Special service vessel MODLIN (3,569t, 1906) Sunk as blockship

44/02/07 Special service vessel DOVER HILL (5,815t, 1918) Sunk as blockship

44/02/07 Special service vessel FLOWERGATE (5,200t, 1911) Sunk as blockship

44/02/08 Special service vessel BECHEVILLE (4,200t, 1924) Sunk as blockship

44/02/08 Special service vessel PANOS (4,900t, 1920) Sunk as blockship

44/02/10 Special service vessel ELSWICK PARK (4,200t, 1920) Sunk as blockship

44/02/11 Special service vessel SALTERS GATE (3,900t, 1924) Sunk as blockship

44/02/21 Drifter LE DUE PAOLE, Cause and place unknown

44/02/21 Special service vessel VINLAKE (3,938t, 1913) Sunk as blockship

44/02/26 Special service vessel LYNGHAUG (2,839t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/02/26 Special service vessel SIREHEI (3,888t, 1907) Sunk as blockship

44/03 Special service vessel EMPIRE TANA (6,148t, 1923) Sunk as blockship

44/03 Special service vessel GEORGIOS P (4,052t, 1903) Sunk as blockship

44/03 Special service vessel NJEGOS (R, 4,393t, 1908) Sunk as blockship

44/03 Special service vessel WINHA (3,391, 1904) Sunk as blockship

44/03 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.229, 266 (total 2, 150t type) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/03/13 Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.76 (6t) Lost on passage.

44/03/25 Special service vessel MANCHESTER SPINNER (4,767t, 1918) Sunk as blockship

44/03/27 Special service vessel MARIPOSA (3,800t, 1914) Sunk as blockship

44/03/28 Special service vessel BENDORAN (5,600t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/03/30 Special service vessel VERA RADCLIFFE (5,600t, 1925) Sunk as blockship

44/04 Special service vessel FORBIN (R, 7,291t, 1922) Sunk as blockship

44/04/06 Special service vessel INNERTON (5,300t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/04/14 Water boat GENERAAL VAN SWIETEN (1,300t, 1928) Marine cause

44/04/14 Water carrier GENERAAL VAN DER HEIJDEN (R, 1,213t, 1929) Marine cause

44/05 Landing craft assault LCA No.130 (11-13.5t) Destroyed by fire at Marve. Date reported

44/05 Landing craft assault LCA No.364, 382, 398, 417, 433, 459, 492, 526, 573, 761 (total 10, 11-13.5t each) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/05 Landing craft emergency repair LCER No.5, 14, 21 (total 3, 10t each) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/05 Landing craft personnel (Small) LCP(S) No.25, 50, 61, 73, 101, 135, 137 (total 7, 6t each) Cause and place unknown Date reported

44/05 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.59 (13.5t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/06 Landing barge, oiler No.6 (200t type) Cause and place unknown

44/06 Landing craft assault LCA No.182 (11-13.5t) Cause and place unknown Date reported

44/06 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.854 (9-11t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/06 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.47 (13.5t) Cause and place unknown

44/06 Landing craft tank (Armoured) (MkV) LCT No.2039 (290-295t) Cause and place unknown

44/06 Landing craft vehicle LCV No.719 (10-11t) Cause and place unknown

44/06 Special service vessel PARKHAVEN (4,803t, 1920) Sunk as blockship

44/06 Landing craft infantry (Small) LCI(S) No.537 (110t) Damaged beyond economical repair

44/06 Special service vessel BELGIQUE (4,606t, 1902) Sunk as blockship

44/06 Special service vessel EMPIRE BITTERN (8,500t, 1902) Sunk as blockship

44/06 Special service vessel PARKLAAN (3,807t, 1911) Sunk as blockship

44/06 Landing barge, vehicle (Mk1) No.16, 20, 51 (total 3, 150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/06/06 Landing craft assault LCA No.107 (11-13.5t) Sunk.

44/06/07 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.52 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/06/08 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.875 (611-640t) Sunk by enemy action

44/06/12 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.16, 51 (total 2, 150t type) Lost through stress of weather.

44/06/13 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.967 (611-640t) Mined.

44/06/15 Drifter GLEAM (57t, 1922) Sunk in collision

44/06/17 Landing craft infantry (Large) LCI(L) No.132 (380-384t) Lost and formally paid off.

44/06/24 Special service vessel NORFALK (5,672t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/06/26 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.84 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/06/26 Special service vessel NORJERV (5,600t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/06/29 Special service vessel STANWELL (5,800t, 1914) Sunk as blockship

44/06/30 Special service vessel MAYCREST (5,900t, 1913) Sunk as blockship

44/07 Landing craft personnel (Survey) LCP(Survey) No.154 (9t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/07 Landing craft tank (MkV) LCT No.2331 291-311t) Broke back.

44/07/01 Landing barge, ramped dumb No.43, 65 (total 2, 100t type) 44/07/01 Cause and place unknown

44/07/01 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.121, 175 (total 2, 150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/07/01 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.54 (13.5t) Cause and place unknown

44/07/09 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.511 (611-640t) Broke back while in tow.

44/07/09 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.390 (625-640t) Cause and place unknown

44/07/10 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.757 (611-640t) Formally paid off.

44/07/11 Landing barge, oiler No.87 (200t type) Cause and place unknown

44/07/13 Landing craft emergency repair LCER No.15 (10t) Cause and place unknown

44/07/15 Landing craft tank (Armoured) (MkV) LCT No.2263 (290-295t) Cause and place unknown

44/07/16 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.7057, 7064 (total 2, 625-640t each) Cause and place unknown

44/07/20 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.689 (611-640t) Destroyed by explosion

44/07/23 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1023 (611-640t) Damaged beyond economical repair.

44/07/24 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.901 (611-640t) Broke back

44/07/29 Landing barge, vehicle (Mk1) No.19, 28, 116, 122 (total 4, 150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/08 Landing craft tank (MkIII) LCT No.427 (625-640t) Cause and place unknown

44/08/05 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1039 (611-640t) Broke back

44/08/05 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1076 (611-640t) Broke in two

44/08/09 Landing barge, oiler No.53 (200t type) Cause and place unknown

44/08/09 Landing barge, oiler No.73 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/08/10 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.1092 (611-640t) Broke back while in tow.

44/08/17 Landing barge, oiler No.4 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/08/17 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.631 (611-640t) Broke back.

44/08/19 Landing barge, vehicle (MkI) No.83 (150t type) Sank in tow.

44/08/25 Landing craft support (Medium) (MkIII) LCS(M) No.42 (13.5t) Cause and place unknown

44/08/27 Landing barge, water No.14 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/08/31 Landing barge, oiler No.30 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/09/04 Special service vessel BOSWORTH (6,672t, 1919) Sunk as blockship

44/09/05 Collier lOANNI FAFALIOS (R, 5,670, 1919) War cause

44/09/12 Landing barge, water No.11 (150t type) Cause and place unknown

44/09/13 Motor fishing vessel No.1032 (93t, 2/44) Sunk in tow

44/09/17 Trawler MIRABELLE (R, 203t, 1918) Rammed and sunk by accident

44/09/20 Special service vessel SYLVIA (R) Lost by enemy action

44/10 Landing craft tank (MkIV) LCT No.943 (611-640t) Sunk.

44/10/03 Collier YEWDALE (R, 823t, 1929) Marine cause

44/10/04 Special service vessel DUPLEIX (R) Cause and place unknown

44/10/16 Harbour duty vessel ISMINI (R) Cause and place unknown

44/11 Landing craft personnel (Ramped) LCP(R) No.805, 806 (total 2, 9-11t each) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

44/11 Landing craft tank (MkII) LCT No.129 (450-453t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

1945

45/01 Landing craft vehicle (Personnel) LCV(P) No.1191 (10.5-13.5t) Cause and place unknown

45/01 Naval auxiliary boat No.47, Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/01 Naval auxiliary boat No.48, Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/01 Naval auxiliary boat No.49, Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/01 Naval auxiliary boat No.58, Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/01 Naval auxiliary boat No.59, Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/01/18 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.690 (102t, 15/9/43) Lost after striking wreck

45/02 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.136 (30-37t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/02/02 Transport vessel MARY VI (R, 13t) Destroyed by fire

45/02/09 Naval servicing boat No.38 (20t) Capsized and sank after damage

45/03 Landing craft assault LCA No.1112, 1153 (total 2, 11-13.5t) Presumed lost during 1945

45/03 Tug ALLIGATOR (39rt, 6/2/41) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/04 Motor gun boat MGB No.99, Constructive total loss

45/04 Special service vessel ARMENlER (R, 914t) Scuttled

45/05 Landing barge, vehicle (MkII) No.152 (200t type) Written off. Date reported

45/05/29 Landing barge, vehicle (MkII) No.132 (200t type) Written off

45/06 Landing barge, oiler No.13, 37, 63, 69, 88, 96 (total 6, 200t type) Written off. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, vehicle (MkII) No.1, 5, 9, 11, 31, 35, 42, 65, 72, 73, 75, 76, 99, 118, 211, 212 (total 16, 150t type) Written off. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, vehicle (MkII) No.137,140,157, 170 (total 4, 200t type) Written off. Date reported

45/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.1092 (52t) Cause and place unknown. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, emergency repair No.12, 30, 32-34 (total 5, 200t type) Written off. Date reported

45/06 Landing barge, water No.1, 6 (total 2, 150t type) Written off. Date reported

45/07 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.1185 (52t) Lost, presumed during 1945. Date reported

45/07 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.243 (40t, 18/11/42) Sunk as target. Date reported

45/07 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.635 (102t, 11/42) Sunk as target. Date reported

45/07/04 Trawler ELIZABETH THERESE (R, 156t, 1934) Sunk

45/07/19 Motor torpedo boat MTB No.712 (102t, 10/2/44) Formally paid off

45/08/01 Fuelling ship ILTON CASTLE (R) Cause and place unknown

45/08/17 Motor launch ML No.230 (75t, 28/3/41) Sunk in collision

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[Narked1]

Thanks Cablava,
Helped me eliminate two more of the "possibles". I know which LCM is isn't by using the process of elimination for now. More research required. Oh, and another excuse to get back in the water!

[gord]

Is this still in the immediate area of Alexandria? LCM (MkI) is a positive id? There were a number of operations across N. Africa, could be narrowed down further by location on the next index at that site

http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Brit...esbyArea08.htm

[gord]

Further thoughts on this - research might have to be widened to include Royal Australian Navy records, since their first operational location in The Med was Alexandria.

[Narked1]

Gord,
Yes, ID is positive that it is a MK1 LCM. Will post some pics when I return to Alexandria in a few days, alon with pictures of other MK1's for comparison from a modeling company. Am in sharm IL Sheikh taking a gas blending course right now. Location is approximately 20-25 kilometers west of of EL Alamein. Research leads to the belief that it is British due to the presence of a helmet which is corroded to the main deck. However, I do not know if the Aussies used the same style of helmets. Will have to do more research on that. Thanks for the tip on checking the Royal Aussie Navy. Did they use MK1's? Will continue to investigate.

Thanks again

[Narked1]

OK,
Here are some pics of the wreck, plus one from a modeling company that I found online since I couldn't find any actual pics of a LCM MK1. The model shows modifications done to the pilothouse for the approach to the beach at Normandy. The other pic that I have shows the LCM without the modifications and matches the pics that I took, but it too large to post here

If anyone can point me in the right direction to find out which ships that could have carred LCM MK1's off the coast of Egypt during WW2 it would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

[Cablava]

In October 1942 the Royal Navy maintained a force of five cruisers and 16 destroyers, as well as smaller craft, in the Western Mediterranean. Their task was to secure Montgomery?s northern flank, preventing interference by the much more powerful Italian fleet. The Italian Navy was both intimidated by the Royal Navy?s aggressive reputation and constrained by the lack of fuel resulting from the Allies? global maritime blockade.

On the night of Montgomery?s offensive a force of destroyers and landing craft carried out Operation ?Slender?, a simulated landing, 65 miles west of El Alamein. Both General Montgomery and General Alexander credited this with delaying the arrival of the German 90th Light Division at the main battlefront.

[gord]

From the RN's Med/East loss list, there are a number to eliminate:

41/05 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.106 (30-37t) Lost at Crete.
41/08 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.32, 55, 67, 95, 96, 103, 107, 108 (total 8, 30-37t each) Lost in Middle East. Date reported
41/08-09 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.82, 97 (total 2, 30-37t each) Lost in Middle East
42/03 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.51, 53 (total 2, 30-37t) Lost in Middle East
42/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.84, 90, 93, 119, 122, 135, 137 (total 7, 30-37t each) Lost in Middle East.
42/07 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.140 (30-37t) Lost in Middle East
42/08 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.23-25, 34, 45 (total 5, 30-37t each) Lost in Middle East
42/08 Landing craft mechanised (MkIII) LCM No.501, 510, 516 (total 3, 52t each) Lost in Middle East.
42/11/20 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.139 (30-37t) Lost through heavy weather in Middle East.
42/12/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.98 (30-37t) Lost by enemy action in Benghazi area
43/01/02 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.26 (30-37t) Sunk in Mediterranean, off Libya
43/01/25 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.58 (30-37t) Sunk in Mediterranean, off Libya
43/02/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.80 (30-37t) Stranded off Benghazi. Total loss.
43/02/08 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.61 (30-37t) Sunk in Benghazi Harbour through heavy weather
42/05/05 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.46 (30-37t) Capsized and sank, E. Indies.
42/10/22 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.89 (30-37t) Believed lost in tow en route to Colombo, Ceylon (Shri Lanka)
44/03 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.76, Lost in E Indies. Date reported
44/05 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.131, 182, 183, 207, 209 (total 5, 30-37t each) Lost in E Indies. Date reported
44/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.91 (30-37t) Lost in E Indies. Date reported
45/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.354, 493 (total 2, 30-37t) Lost in operations on Arakan Coast, Burma. Date reported
44/05 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.212, 215, 218, 219, 243, 272, 277, 285, 288, 324 (total 10, 30-37t each) Lost oveseas. Date reported [SE Asia]
44/06 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.295 (30-37t) Lost overseas. [SE Asia]


And these are 'probably nots', unless it got 'almost home' evacuating survivors/wounded:

42/06/20 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.110, 113, 145, 146, 148 (total 5, 30-37t each) Lost during fall of Tobruk
42/11 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.63-65, 69, 72, 73, 190, 147, 153, 161, 169, 186 (total 12, 30-37t each) Lost in Operation Torch, N. Africa (from the pictures, I presume the tank is not there, meaning it wasn't en route?)


With 2 'possibles':

42/04 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.38 (30-37t) Lost in Mediterranean. Date reported
43/10 Landing craft mechanised (MkI) LCM No.232 (30-37t) Lost in Mediterranean. Date approximate

Maybe we need to build a list to eliminate the 'non-candidates' for you.

[Narked1]

Thanks Gord for the list. Just added a few more "possibles" to my list (see below). And thanks to you Cablava for the info. The area that Operation "Slender" was conducted in is a few miles west of where this wreck lies and may have been involved in the operation. However, I haven't found that any of the recorded losses coincide with October of 1942. With that being said, the articles that I have found do not state a specific date when Operation Slender was actually carried out.

No need to make a list to eliminate the LCM's. Have already done that. Anything with a (*) shown below is what I added back onto my list based on Gord's information. All of these LCM's are listed as either lost in the Med, Mid-East, or overseas (unless overseas was anotated with with part of the world they were lost in).

LCM (MK1) numbers 23, 24, 25, 31, 32, 34, 38 (Lost in Med), 45, 51, 53, 56, 67, 82, 84, 90*, 93, 95, 96, 97, 103, 107, 108, 119*, 122*, 135*, 136 (Lost in Med), 137, 139, 140*, 232 (Lost in Med), 295 (Overseas).

Am planning a dive with friends this weekend (Which is Friday in most Arab countries), weather permitting, to take a closer look at it now that I think I know what to look for. And to get some better pics since I now have a digital underwater camera. The helmet pic that I posted appears to be a MK II "Tommy" helmet used by the British army. Odd thing though, it is chrome plated (if I remember the last dive correctly). Did the RN use the same style of helmet?

Thanks much,
Mike

[gord]

Doesn't need to be a RN helmet; they were transporting members of the other services.

[Cablava]

In July 1940 principal shipbuilders were called to a meeting to discuss the requirement and their advice was sought as to the way ahead. Further meetings were held and resulted in two companies, John Brown and Fairfields, working out the detailed designs.

It was a supreme measure of collaboration and effort when another of the principal shipbuilders, Hawthorn Leslie, delivered the very first Tank Landing Craft in history in November 1940. This was only made possible due to the enthusiasm and co-operation of all concerned at their Hebburn yard on Tyneside enabling the delivery of an entirely new type of craft. This was designated as an L.C.T. MK I.

The craft encompassed some novel features - some of which we now take for granted such as a ramp which was hinged just above the waterline (the forerunner of the Roll-On Roll-Off ferries) and a double floating dock type of hull. Furthermore, the vehicles were protected from the weather and concealed from view by the side tanks from which a canvas cover was suspended over the hold.

[Narked1]

This is for the research Guru's here,
Missed my window of opportunity to dive on the wreck last week due to work schedules and now have to wait on the weather to accomodate. So in the meantime I've been doing more research on the LCM MK1 and re-evaluating my dive plans I finally asked myself the question: "What do I do with the information about the wreck? Who do I send it too in order to have it entered into a historical database? (if indeed it is a missing LCM)". I have contacted a couple of WW2 museums in England and they came back with something along the line of me paying them to have research done on the wreck, not mentioning any avenue to have the wreck officially recorded.

If this is a missing LCM (and this goes for any previously undiscovered wreck as well), how does one get it properly recorded as a new wreck? Who do you contact? Concerning this wreck, a reality check on my part: 1.This wreck is most likely not of any significant historical value (but there may have been loss of life during its operations here which may give it historical value to survivors of those lost) 2. There is no monetary gain from listing the wreck in historical record. (History for history's sake.) 3. Why am I taking the time and effort to do it?......Because I can and I want too (Currently taking the MHAS video course and it has made me more aware of what I should be looking for.....call my project here a "training evolution" if you will). 4. Not looking for "glory" or reward here because it is just plain fun!

Obiviously I'm new to all of this, and so would ask: How would one submit into world record an undicovered wreck? I don't know and am asking for your advice, experience, and guidance that any of you may want to provide.

Mike

[Darren in NC]

Hey Mike,

We've got a group of divers here waiting on our MAHS videos to come in. We're looking forward to getting started. Would you say the course is worthwhile so far?

All the best to you,
Darren

[gord]

This is for the research Guru's here,
If this is a missing LCM (and this goes for any previously undiscovered wreck as well), how does one get it properly recorded as a new wreck? Who do you contact?
Mike

I would have to believe that the Royal Navy would be interested, at the very least. I have corresponded with British regimental historians, and they were prompt with responses to my queries; since it was land forces being transported, there could be interest from them as well when tentative identity is established.
Gord

[Narked1]

Darren,
The MAHS course so far is pretty intersting, albeit the videos are a bit dry at times. Some good information in them, but to be honest, a lot of it is just plain common sense for those that do this on a regular basis.

For Gord,
Thanks for the response. And yes, I think the Royal Navy would be interested. Just don't know how to contact the right department within the RN. Identity of the LCM has been confirmed as an LCM MK1 but not which one as of yet (Waiting on weather here). I do not know how to contact the British Regional historians from here. Will do the search online for an e-mail address but if you have one handy and can send it to me it would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

[gord]

Just looking for contact info, I came across another set of lists with loss locations:

http://www.naval-history.net/WW2Brit...Amphib.htm#lcm

Any entries in either of the lists that say 'Middle East' can probably be eliminated, they were usually pretty specific when it came to reporting locations. The Med battle/strategic documentation in the rest of that new site may be helpful in narrowing down an ID; may be able to get volunteer assistance through them.
Gord

[gord]

Hi Mike
Anything more panned out on the ID? As you mentioned in another thread, The Battle of El Alamein was the first possibility that occurred to me as a connection as well.
Gord

[Narked1]

No real change on my pet project "LCM-X", as I have named it. Weather and work schedules just aren't cooperating so far. In the meantime, I have been doing loads and loads of research and think that I am making some progress. I have narrowed down the probable WW2 Operations that it would most likely have participated in. One, being Operation Slender mentioned above by Cablava. The second operation would be Wavell's Operation Compass which ran from Sept 1940 until Feb 1941 in the defense of Sollum and Marsa Matruh located about 40-45 west of where the wreck is located. Since the MK-1 was not a particularly well armored craft and was basically a barge with a deckhouse, ramp, and folding sides, it makes sense to me that it may have been used to deliver Supplies, light vehicles, and troops well behind the battle lines and the distance seems about right. By the time the Battle of El Alamein took place the Allied Forces had withdrawn to El Alamein so I don't think that an LCM would have been forward of that battle line unless it was after the Germans had been defeated. Haven't been able to locate much information on the Allied activities on the north coast of Egypt after El Alamein. Another clue that I have is that I drove out to the cove where the wrecksite is located (about 3 hours by car) and found that the name for the area that I was originally told is, in fact, not the original name of the area. Not "Mina Caesar" (Caesar's Harbor), but it actually Side Haneish. There was an airbase located there during WW2, which, I think may lend some credence to the MK-1 being used to deliver supplies. The other supporting theory as to the MK-1 being used for Supplies, light vehicle, or troop delivery, is the craft's maximum load carrying capability of 16-tons which would not allow it to carry the armoured vehicles that were used at the time. (The "Matilda II" tank, for example, which was in common use at the time, weighed 23.6 tons.)

So, until weather and work schedules cooperate, continuing research here. And when I think I have all of the information that I need, will research it again. Will update the post as I make progress.

[Narked1]

Hi All,
Just an update on the progress of my "LCM-X" project. This post is more about the MAHS course than the LCM that I am researching. As many of you know, I have enrolled in the MAHS video course (really dry stuff...but lots of useful information for newbies to underwater surveying and archaeology). As part of the course completion requirements, one has to attend a MAHS Field School. Have been in contact with MAHS and Mr. Steven Anthony, and proposed that I do a survey of the wrecksite via remote proctorship in lieu of attending the MAHS Field School, with certain stipulations from the MAHS organization. All of which are do-able. My proposal is going to be put to the MAHS Board or Directors for approval, or not. Hopefully it will gain approval.

For the edification of other TN members here who are enrolled in the MAHS course, I found out that the Field School certifies all participating members to the level of PADI Master Diver (which I already have). And also, there is a statement in the parchment brochure that is included with the video shipment stating that the course participant has 30 days to complete the course after enrollment. Mr. Anthony informed me that this is inaccurate and had thought that the statement in the brochure had been purged. All participants of the course have 120 days to complete the course. Remote field study, if approved by the Board, requires additional purchase of the MAHS Field Study video. Mr. Anthony also indicated in his e-mail to me that extensions to the 120 day completion requirement are granted liberally.

Hope this information helps some of you out there.
Narked1