Oddyssey! A Hysterical Adventure of Discovery Dealing with U/W Archeologists

capt dom

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This is an excerpt from my manuscript I have been working upon
for some time now. This is somewhat paraphrased:

My 1st Experiences with specialists in undersea exploration
that have come to be called U/W archaeologists started on the telephone.
It was with Mendel Peterson. He had a position as the Curator of Navel Arms at the Smithsonian.
I was attempting to identify and date the first cannon we had recovered from the Jupiter Shipwreck Site.

The cannon was covered with encrustation and he basically told me I had to beat it with a hammer and
remove the encrustation if I expected to view any identifying or dating characteristics. He also stated I
should probably get in touch with the folks in Key West.

Once I cleaned the cannon off, I called the Treasure Salvers folks in Key West and got Jim Saint Clair
on the telephone. Duncan Mathewson was to busy to take my call. Jim wasn't yet a card carrying U/W
archaeologist and was acting as a metal and artifact preservationist in the TS lab. I told Jim
Mr. Peterson told me to clean off the encrustations on the cannon and Jim asked me where the trunnions
of the cannon were placed and what their shape was.

I asked him, "What the F_ _ _ is a trunnion?"

Jim took the time and explained they were pivot points for the cannon to shift on its carriage.
I told Jim They were on the bottom of the cannon - just about a foot off the mid point and of its length.
He hesitated then asked were they cylinder shaped?
I said, "No, they are thimble shaped". Jim gasped and then said,
"It looks like you have a 17th century cannon there!" "Now you better get yourself
a lawyer" - 'before the state finds out!"

If there is any level of interest in this post, I will continue:

but, it gets kinda "dark".....
 

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I can tell this is going to get real interesting, Please continue. :icon_sunny:
 

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Well, you've piqued my interest! Please continue...
 

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capt dom

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You are correct Alex it was a nice cannon.

What was interesting about the cannon was the marks that were not on it!
It was an iron cannon. It had 8 - 1 - 16 scribed just above the vent or touch hole.

{Alex you can tell the folks what that meant} Someone chipped off what may have
been English or Dutch casting marks on the top of the cannon. Our vessel may have been
a victim of conscription by what some folks now want to call the Spanish navy, ha, ha....

Now back to the topic. The next underwater archaeologist,
whose services I retained was a very complex character. As most of them
turn out to be.... Many believe him to be the, "father of the State of Florida's underwater
archaeological program. It was his idea for the state to set up four reserve areas back in 1968
well before UNESCO came up with the idea, to place a temporary halt on private sector salvage
of historic shipwreck sites until a time when the private sector became more enlightened
to their historic and cultural values.

Again, Carl Clausen, indeed was a very complex character but I figured if it was his idea to temporarily
halt private sector salvage in 1968 because of the cretin nature of dastardly salvers back then;
it was a great idea to have him collaborate with me to compose a proper research design
to address the potential historic nature of our find.

Unfortunately, Carl as many who choose the field of undersea archeology had some demons.....
We soon after the archaeological research design was submitted and accepted by the
State of Florida parted our ways.

Being a student of history Alex do you know where Carl is spending his days now..... and why?
As I continue you will see a pattern developing.....

We donated the cannon to a local Hysterical Society - after running it for over 2
years at my marina....
 

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capt dom

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I guess you don't know about our father of underwater archeologies
current where abouts Alex....
He is in jail forever for first knee capping his wife, then taking about
two hours to explain to her the errors of her ways
before finishing her off.

I thought our next state approved archaeologist only had a drinking
problem but we were later to find out he was absconding with artifacts,
and selling them for crack!
{what a guy}

The next one was at least honest....
or at least I thought he was until he
did a cultural resource survey for the Jupiter Inlet south Jetty extension
and stated nothing significant was really there.....
He went to a catholic university...


We almost gave him a twitch because he use to sit up]
in the boat attempting to draw pictures of the coins....
but we were finding them too fast
and he couldn't keep up
with us!

Ah.... the good old days.....
Maybe though you
had to be there
to really get
the hippocracy of it all!

There is moore, {whoops}
I meant more....
 

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Come on Dom, spit it out. The hystory (I mean mystery) is killing me!!!
 

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capt dom said:
I guess you don't know about our father of underwater archeologies
current where abouts Alex....
He is in jail forever for first knee capping his wife, then taking about
two hours to explain to her the errors of her ways
before finishing her off.

I thought our next state approved archaeologist only had a drinking
problem but we were later to find out he was absconding with artifacts,
and selling them for crack!
{what a guy}

The next one was at least honest....
or at least I thought he was until he
did a cultural resource survey for the Jupiter Inlet south Jetty extension
and stated nothing significant was really there.....
He went to a catholic university...


We almost gave him a twitch because he use to sit up]
in the boat attempting to draw pictures of the coins....
but we were finding them too fast
and he couldn't keep up
with us!

Ah.... the good old days.....
Maybe though you
had to be there
to really get
the hippocracy of it all!

There is moore, {whoops}
I meant more....

moore, (whoops) - Let's hear what you have to say about him?

Trez
 

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capt dom

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We attempted to retain the services of three other alumni of the treasure salvers
organization over these early years....

Although Jim Miller, the state archeologist approved the crack addict - he would not
approve Jim Saint Clair at the time, to our dismay. We later went after Dave Moore
but he,- seeing the hand writing on thr wall, was moving on to public employ in the Carolinas...

Then one night a sherriff's car from the Seminole police showed up at our Jupiter
Shipwreck Recovery Center and I was re-introduced to R. Duncan Matthewson
and his then side-kick, Dr. Robert Baer.... What an adventure of "discovery" this
has lead to....
 

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