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  1. #1

    Feb 2007
    Garrett Sea Hunter Mark 2
    72
    Banner Finds (1)

    4 inch Copper Nail???

    Hello Guys,
    Two days ago I was hunting with my buddy, and he found that 4 inch Copper Nail. Now I had never seen a copper Nail before. Could it be that it was used in wooden boats instead of using iron nails that would rust? aleman
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  2. #2

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    I would say YES it was used in a wooden SHIP.
    I have a few Iron nails and a few SILVER nails and 1 copper nail but none of them are as fine as yours.
    Peg Leg

  3. #3
    us
    ARRG

    Feb 2005
    Sarasota, FL
    Whites Surfmaster PI Pro and Whites Surfmaster PI, Minelab Excal NY blue sword.
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    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    It most likely is bronze, they did make small nails out of copper, but it is very soft. Most spikes like that were bronze. Polish it up and if its gold colored it is bronze, if copper colored, then of course copper. Iron nails would rust away very quickly. English ships had a broadhead stamped in every metal part, so if it had that then its English. Nice find!

  4. #4
    us
    Sep 2006
    Pensacola, Fl
    Minelab Explorer XS
    914
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    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    I second the bronze nail theory but it's still a great find indeed. I have several that are actually 6" in length but nearly the same diameter head.

    Pcolaboy

  5. #5

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Would it hurt to polish the silver nails or leave them as is?
    Peg Leg

  6. #6

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    I posted the other day about a friend that I am actually Grub Staking. He is really interested in Treasure Hunting but could not afford a MD so I bought one for him to get started,
    ANYWAY
    He recovered a few silver nails. Three were still in the wood so he broke the wood apart and took the nails out. He brought them to me to look at.
    They were SILVER. Of course they were not used to hold anything together. I believe they were silver that was being smuggled back to Spain. The best are three in good condition considering they have been in the ocean for a few hundred years. I have cleaned them up so anyone can tell the are silver. The three best ones weigh 116 grams together. The silver content runs from .800 to .925.
    I told him to NEVER take anything apart until I get a chance to look at it. Hell he is just leaning. He is my legs MD the beach.
    NO photos yet until a buy a new camera then I will post a few.
    Peg Leg

  7. #7

    Feb 2007
    Garrett Sea Hunter Mark 2
    72
    Banner Finds (1)

    A Iron one!!!!

    The other day I went to the same spot where my buddy found the brass nail, and found myself a Iron one! Looks like there is something out there............
    aleman
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  8. #8

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    The iron nail is about the same size as the silver ones but in better shape than the iron nail.
    Peg Leg

  9. #9

    Oct 2004
    182

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Get that iron nail in Salt Away and keep it there until you can do preservation!

  10. #10

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    I will ask again.
    WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO CLEAN THE SILVER NAILS OR LET THEM BE.
    pEG lEG

  11. #11
    us
    discovering & preserving our past for future generations

    Dec 2004
    Jupiter, Florida
    Aquapulse, DetectorPro Headhunter
    1,993
    1 times
    Shipwrecks

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Electrolytic Reduction, Pegleg. A small silver nail should only take a few days or a week at the most. If you don't have an electrolytic bath set up or aren't familiar with the process, there are many references on this website, or Google it.

    If you just let it go, those salt chlorides will slowly keep expanding and your nails will be reduced to nothing (silver sulphide?)

  12. #12

    May 2006
    1,522

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Thanks
    Peg leg

  13. #13
    Seahunter

    Jan 2006
    PALM BEACH COUNTY,FLORIDA
    801
    2 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Peg leg
    Do you have a picture of those silver nails. I would really like to see them. What a great way to smuggle.
    Seahunter

  14. #14

    Mar 2007
    Minelab Sovereign GT/Fisher Impulse/eyes + hands
    83

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Aleman,here are pictures of spike. shank is round thanks,keegah
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    He is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose.

  15. #15

    Nov 2006
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    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    Looks like a brass or bronze pike to me. We find them all the time on 1800's vintage wood wrecks. The square ones are used to hold decks or planking. Larger round ones are for the ribs.

    Safe Diving
    Capt. Dan
    www.aquaexplorers.com

  16. #16

    Mar 2007
    Minelab Sovereign GT/Fisher Impulse/eyes + hands
    83

    Re: 4 inch Copper Nail???

    what is iron grubby? (sorry for the newbie ignorance)
    He is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose.

  17. #17

    Mar 2007
    Minelab Sovereign GT/Fisher Impulse/eyes + hands
    83

    "iron grubby"

    sorry, grubby. i'm so new @this i thought you meant it was "iron grubby" lol. are square headed spikes of a certain time period. i'm a carpenter and the only square headed nails i've seen are cut nails(concrete nails). thanks,keegah
    He is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose.

 

 

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