Human Skeleton Found on Famed Antikythera Shipwreck

[eyemustdigtreasure]

human skeleton found on famous shipwreck, the same site as Its most famous find to date has been a surprisingly sophisticated clockwork device that modelled the motions of the Sun, Moon and planets in the sky—dubbed the ‘Antikythera mechanism’.

Human Skeleton Found on Famed Antikythera Shipwreck - Scientific American

 

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[vpnavy]

Nice find - seeing that intact skull kind of gives me the creeeeeeeeeeeps (considering the age and all). Thanks for sharing the article.

 

[ARC]

I read about this...
I am skeptical... I could not pinpoint how they dated / determined that the both the wreck and the skeleton are "absolute" in relation.

 

[1percenter]

It's possible depending on salt content and sediment in the water.

 

[Salvor6]

Why are they disturbing a grave site?

 

[jeff of pa]

sweet

 

[seekerGH]

I could not pinpoint how they dated / determined that the both the wreck and the skeleton are "absolute" in relation

There were several methods used to date the wreck, pottery has a very distinct evolution in style over time. The device itself was able to be dated.

Although the retrieval of artifacts from the shipwreck was highly successful and accomplished within two years, dating the site proved difficult and took much longer. Based on related works with known provenances, the bronze statues could be dated back to the 4th century BC, while the marble statues were suggested to be Hellenistic-era copies of earlier works.

Some scholars have speculated that the ship was carrying part of the loot of the Roman General Sulla from Athens in 86 BC, and might have been on its way to Italy. A reference by the Greek writer, Lucian, to one of Sulla's ships sinking in the Antikythera region gave rise to this theory. Supporting an early 1st-century BC date were domestic utensils and objects from the ship, similar to those known from other 1st-century BC contexts. The amphorae recovered from the wreck indicated a date of 80–70 BC, the Hellenistic pottery a date of 75–50 BC, and the Roman ceramics were similar to known mid-1st century types. However, any possible association with Sulla was eliminated when the coins discovered in the 1970s during work by Jacques Cousteau and associates were dated between 76 and 67 BC.[2] Nevertheless, it is possible that the sunken cargo ship was en route to Rome or elsewhere in Italy with looted treasures to support a triumphal parade. Alternatively, perhaps the cargo was assembled on commission from a wealthy Roman patron.[8]

Remains of hull planks showed that the ship was made of elm, a wood often used by the Romans in their ships. Eventually in 1964 a sample of the hull planking was carbon dated, and delivered a calibrated calendar date of 220 BC ± 43 years. The disparity in the calibrated radiocarbon date and the expected date based on the ceramics and coins was explained by the sample plank originating from an old tree cut much earlier than the ship's sinking event.[9]

Further evidence for an early 1st-century BC sinking date came in 1974, when Yale University Professor Derek de Solla Price published his interpretation of the Antikythera mechanism. He argued that the object was a calendar computer. From gear settings and inscriptions on the mechanism's faces, he concluded that the mechanism was made about 87 BC and lost only a few years later.

 

[eyemustdigtreasure]

I read about this...
I am skeptical... I could not pinpoint how they dated / determined that the both the wreck and the skeleton are "absolute" in relation.

Yeah, good question. Bone doesn't last that long, right?
A passing swimmer/diver passes-on, body come to rest on the wreck, and the dating both, or one - then assumed the other was just as old.
I'd suggest researching it, AARC, and find out - I believe the Nat. Geo. Society did an article on the original ‘Antikythera mechanism’ discovery and the wreck - maybe they say how it was dated....
Let us know! Thanks

 

[eyemustdigtreasure]

There were several methods used to date the wreck, pottery has a very distinct evolution in style over time. The device itself was able to be dated.

Although the retrieval of artifacts from the shipwreck was highly successful and accomplished within two years, dating the site proved difficult and took much longer. Based on related works with known provenances, the bronze statues could be dated back to the 4th century BC, while the marble statues were suggested to be Hellenistic-era copies of earlier works.

Some scholars have speculated that the ship was carrying part of the loot of the Roman General Sulla from Athens in 86 BC, and might have been on its way to Italy. A reference by the Greek writer, Lucian, to one of Sulla's ships sinking in the Antikythera region gave rise to this theory. Supporting an early 1st-century BC date were domestic utensils and objects from the ship, similar to those known from other 1st-century BC contexts. The amphorae recovered from the wreck indicated a date of 80–70 BC, the Hellenistic pottery a date of 75–50 BC, and the Roman ceramics were similar to known mid-1st century types. However, any possible association with Sulla was eliminated when the coins discovered in the 1970s during work by Jacques Cousteau and associates were dated between 76 and 67 BC.[2] Nevertheless, it is possible that the sunken cargo ship was en route to Rome or elsewhere in Italy with looted treasures to support a triumphal parade. Alternatively, perhaps the cargo was assembled on commission from a wealthy Roman patron.[8]

Remains of hull planks showed that the ship was made of elm, a wood often used by the Romans in their ships. Eventually in 1964 a sample of the hull planking was carbon dated, and delivered a calibrated calendar date of 220 BC ± 43 years. The disparity in the calibrated radiocarbon date and the expected date based on the ceramics and coins was explained by the sample plank originating from an old tree cut much earlier than the ship's sinking event.[9]

Further evidence for an early 1st-century BC sinking date came in 1974, when Yale University Professor Derek de Solla Price published his interpretation of the Antikythera mechanism. He argued that the object was a calendar computer. From gear settings and inscriptions on the mechanism's faces, he concluded that the mechanism was made about 87 BC and lost only a few years later.

Oooo, thanks! Appreciate!