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    Nemo me impune lacesset

    Jan 2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real of Tayopa View Post
    not straying from the topic, but do you think this is worth presenting to an exploring 'Co in Mexico? 500 yrds frgorgot to include the test rexults
    a power line, same for an all weather. roadom oo9's Attachment 1834469TACH]

    Ah dang it compadre but you DO know how to get an old prospector's blood going! I wish I were able to act on it but it is not possible at the moment. Manana - who knows, the whole world can change pretty dramatically overnight. Of course I see it with the eye of perhaps a 'mom and pop' type operation not the massive way corporate mining outfits work.

    Please do continue,

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    That requires teter's mine - next to toyaps Free as of this moment.

  3. #8253
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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Hello Don Jose amigo

    There are two ways a mining the site nibble at it until your broke or mining it profitably.

    Any project would have to factor in the processing of ore. Its not just simply digging it up. Any mining operation would have to have an ore concentrator, Depending of size depends on volume.

    These metals are bounded together. Usually the concentrated copper ore would be smelter-ed and cast into anodes then through electrolysis in tanks of sulfuric acid that anodes dissolve and the copper leaches on to purer copper plate and the impurities of gold silver lead would fall into bottom of the tank. the slime's would be pumped into a precious metal plant and silver and gold separated through flotation tanks the cast into ingots.

    Miners either needs deep pockets to develop a smelter or refinery or have an process agreement with over smelter or refineries . There is far as I know two copper smelters in Mexico both in northern Sonora. So any processing costing would have to be competitive than having to invest smelting and refinery infrastructure to any mine site.

    Just one of many coasts to factor in? At the end of the day the extraction costs per ton has to be lower than gross profit per ton. And able to survive fluctuations in commodity markets.

    However if it was planned well it could indeed be very profitable.

    Cow
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    Crow, mi amigo, all smelters in Mexico are required to use part of their capacity to outside work. That property was up for grabs, Bert decided to take.

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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Gidday Don Jose Amigo.

    I could in-visage the site if meeting the viability requirements for investors as being developed in comparison the "Mina Pino Alto"gold silver mine near Ocampo.

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    You can see above diagrams of the ore body underground mining areas reserves open cut and underground. They also have a large area to place mine tailing waste. Most likely that waste has some Copper content. Perhaps at the end of the life of the gold and silver deposit they or another company will reprocess the tailings for the copper content.

    However such projects takes time. planing and money

    Crow
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    Ocampo is where
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    Crow, Ocampo is where I origionally filed on Tayopa. When we (Bert & ) arrived there it was closeing down. All records were in dusty cardboard boxes, They allowed us to file on Tayopa, and revise the very old records in the boxes. ( back to the 1600s.)but We had to go to Chihuahua for the final phase. The records from Ocampo were stored in a basement in one of the gov'ts other building, To this date they are still unopened. as it was, Tayopa,s filing were delayed, a confirming Call on a friday of the last day caught th Jefe (boss) attention, and he checked the mail before he closed on Friday, monday would have been too late - talk about a "ciff hanger." But that was standard for Tayopa. As I mentiomed Tayopa was developed with Jesuit help, one step at a time. I always felt that a Jesuit was helping me, one step at a time, never more. When ever I was stoped, His help took me to the next, never more than to clear up and move on. I eventually became used to this, but ?? How many mines have you ever heard of that were revealed by a long dead Jesuit makes you wonder about a hereafter.



    i origiomally files on Tayopa.
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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Gidday Don Amigo You might be happy top know I caught up with Amy she has two little boys. Two little scallwags getting up to mischief with my son Nick. Oh to be young without a care in the world my friends. The greatest treasure of em all amigos.

    Cannot wait for things to get back to normal....the trio have a few projects....that are like race horses chomping on the bits just waiting the gate to open and back to normal.

    Some projects will soar like and eagle others will fall like a stone. Such is life amigos.

    Well once again old Crow has to fly the coop to collect some pickings ripe for the taking....It appears I have as well as the trio a little windfall.

    Enough at least for raggedy old crow with his missing tail feathers and his little love nest to be doing well. And keeping out of mischief as any old pirate could.

    Crow

  8. #8258
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    Correctiom, that was proof of the necesayr work, surveying , etc. In the inital filing tou are protected for so many days, you then have to complete your survey work wthin this time period s or your filing is cancelled. That was why I said the title was a cliff hanger. Incidentaly our Surveyor was a full blooded Apache and a darn goood surveyer, the fault in getting the results to the Office in time was of the Mexican Postal system, Reminds me of my old US Airforce answer - " yes Sir, no sir,no excuse sir"
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  9. #8259
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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Hello Don amigo that must of been very challenging to get paperwork done and then surveyed in such a limited time frame.

    Crow

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    Crow, , thanks for the news about Amy,,she is still married to that broken down foot ball player eh "Actually they are a fine couple As for you I also envy you, new adventures. I was just about to start posting of my incidents of lost mine hunting, of swmming with a 30 ft serpent in the upper Fuerte river ( I never swam nude after that) Or the treasure cave that can't be salvaged why ? you'll have to wait untill I Tell it, or the Zimmermman gold bars, payoff to Mexico An incident from WW1.brought up to date or ? or. It seems that I traded a life of being a correct citizen to one of constant adventure ) Etc. Looking forward to your returning, fatter in both body and your banking interests. I'll always rember you from the incident of the bed in the tho main street in New Guinea, or the Hawka dance. Be careful my friend and give the other two my best.

    I exist to live, not live to exist
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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Gidday this is all for those who had not worked in the gold mining industry. The following clip is a basic process of mining from a underground mining operation not an open cut. But it gives the basics although some of the process varies a little between mines depending on size.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UdTXIFLw-4








    Here is another clip of the 4 key mine stages of a modern mine development. It brings back a few memories for me. As some of jobs I actually work as in my early working life. Exploration drilling. Drilling blast holes. And smelting gold.

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    Anyway they both give an insight into mining but are not gold placer mining. Placer mining is like the TV shows like Yukon Gold etc....

    or like this mine on the Palmer river.

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    A lot of work.....

    Crow

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    Crow, I worked as the Assayer for the Colorados mine in Sinaloa,/ Durago, At the top of the Sierras, then later they combined the job as trouble shooter and Assayer.Eventually leading to mill foreman / assayer . But we were in no way comparable to the giants you presented. I had to make my own cupels by scrounging all of the dead cows.for thier bonesc calcining the bones for the cupels. hen there wern't enough dead cows I had to mix the bones wth cement.m then making the cupels It was fun in general, except when the Indians held us ( Bert and I) hostage for three days .Interesting story there, want it? It was fun working at the mine.Not too big an operation. We only had 4 mills. I was allowed complete judgement.I always ate with the men to show them that we were well aware of any food problems, I sure raided the chille jars. Bert was the only woman up there, I think that she loved it, she worked as a form of secretary, the men loved her. We had a rotation of monthly for the men.one week down It took 14 hrs to go to Culican.It was beautiful up there, Pines and oak, not what most think as Mexico.I did enjoying working there. You might say that I am knowlagable of small mines. in remote areas.Politics lrad to the deactivation of the mine and I wert back to my exploring.
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    fWell I reported in to mine, to find my quarters Berts' and mine were 'up on the hill" with the boss - I always fugured he was counting on gourmet meals free of chargeWell
    Later I checked on the assayers building, it was down in the ravine, below the mine. there I found a locked room. I quickly foun the key, and entered to find a Perkin/Elmer adsorbion meter instrument, about 4 or 5 ft across, very dusty and showing disuse. When I had free time i disassembed it, cleaned it, and eventaully recalibrated it, there were several bottles of calibrating liquid. He immediately developed a love?hate relation with me.The company had been putting him off on the guarentee M touching it had immediately voided the guarantee. The Cahn electronic balance was the next, I had to comepletelly rebuild and recalibrate it. After that I could do no wrong and turned over every poroble to me.
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    Raggedy old Crow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real of Tayopa View Post
    fWell I reported in to mine, to find my quarters Berts' and mine were 'up on the hill" with the boss - I always fugured he was counting on gourmet meals free of chargeWell
    Later I checked on the assayers building, it was down in the ravine, below the mine. there I found a locked room. I quickly foun the key, and entered to find a Perkin/Elmer adsorbion meter instrument, about 4 or 5 ft across, very dusty and showing disuse. When I had free time i disassembed it, cleaned it, and eventaully recalibrated it, there were several bottles of calibrating liquid. He immediately developed a love?hate relation with me.The company had been putting him off on the guarentee M touching it had immediately voided the guarantee. The Cahn electronic balance was the next, I had to comepletelly rebuild and recalibrate it. After that I could do no wrong and turned over every poroble to me.
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    Gidday Don Amigo

    Ah... the Joys of working in the mining industry. A symphony of characters with conflicting ambitions trying to do a job without strangling each other....

    I remember a host of people some times ya loved other times you hated them. So so many gone from the passage of time I wonder how many are left? I miss them all just to catch up once more but old man time has taken so many I am afraid.

    Its there stories of everyday people in their time and places is the real treasure amigo......

    Crow

 

 

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