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  1. #1
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    Buy, Sell & Trade Used Detecting Gear! 100% FREE!! Dealer Stock Welcome :) TreasureClassifieds.com

    Jun 2009
    I've swung White's (MXT), Minelab (Safari) & currently run with an Omega 8000 by Teknetics & Fisher CZ-3D (1021 Model)
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    NEL Tornado coils from Russia???

    I've watched a few of the videos online showing the sheer depth of the NEL Tornado coils and must say I'm quite impressed. Have any of you actually used one before? If so, is the depth everything I've seen and heard about online?? I want to get one for my Omega 8000.

    BTW, seems this company is located in Russia. Should I trust them? Their website doesn't even have the text in English, so, not sure what to make of this outfit. Any feedback??

  2. #2
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    The Past Tells the Future! Let's try not to do it over .

    Feb 2011
    Strafford , Missouri
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    Re: NEL Tornado coils from Russia???

    I have dealt with many companies in Russia , and I have had no issues at all . In fact they when beyond in making sure everything went fine .

    It is not like the old Russia or the U.S.S.R of old .

    And if you send an email most of the time they have an English speaker that will work with you.
    So far all has gone well working through Russia !
    Few things I love to do is , Metal Detecting for anything of the past!
    Making Detectors better ! Tuning and finding ways to upgrade Detector hardware , To make them work the Best that is possable !

  3. #3

    Oct 2005
    XLT, Whites D.F., Treasure Baron, Deepstar, Goldquest, Beachscan, T.D.I., Sovereign, 2x Nautilus, various Arado's, Ixcus Diver, Altek Quadtone, T2, Beach Hunter I.D, GS 5 pulse, Searchman 2 ,V3i
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    Re: NEL Tornado coils from Russia???

    Some of them seem to be copies of the SEF coils but are claimed to be lighter and cheaper.

    The only test results I've seen were for the Garrett 250 and depth improvement was 1 to 2 inches but then the NEL (Hunter?) was a bigger coil by about an inch and a half in width so you would expect that to add depth.

    I've had equipment from Russia, Poland and Bulgaria without problem apart from getting a phone call from the British delivery company demanding payment by credit card to cover British import duties though sometimes an item comes straight through without these charges.

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    Jul 2009
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    Re: NEL Tornado coils from Russia???

    They are don't located in Russia. Are located in Ukraine and as I know are joint american - ukraine company. All videos about their products:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/alex547950
    Don't think that their coils are copy of SEF coils, because already they introduced coils for X-Terra. As I know there on the market aren't yet coils for X-Terra?

  5. #5
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    Jan 2009
    Arkansas, by way of Louisiana
    Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505, teknetics Gamma 6000 HeadHunter PiratePro, Garrett Propointer
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    Re: NEL Tornado coils from Russia???

    As stated earlier the company is in the Ukraine. The NEL Tornado coil is AWESOME on my Gamma. I have only taken it off once since I received it and that was to hunt a very trashy area with the 5" DD. I put it back on and re hunted the same area and found 2 wheat pennies and other non money items the small coil missed. It has amazing target seperation and I personally believe it allows the Gamma to be all it can be. In my hunting areas the targets are not really deep so I can't say how much deeper it will go. I have recovered a quarter at 8", my deepest so far. It pin points extremely well and I only use the pin point mode for a depth reading with this coil. I can tell a new style pull tab 90% of the time and an old style beaver tail with the tail attached and in the outward position 99% with this coil. Can slaw still gets it though but 2 out of 3 ain't bad. If you use the google chrome browser it gives you the option to translate the website to English. The coil was $168.00 plus 20 some odd bucks to send it western union. It took a little over a month for the coil to get to me in Arkansas. They will give you a tracking number but it is only good for tracking it in the Ukraine. The us post office could tell me nothing about the package and it just showed up one day. It is worth much more in my opinion and I would by another in a heartbeat if I needed it. It comes with a 2 year warranty. Shoot then an email if you are serious about getting one. The English is not the best but you can get their meaning in general terms. Hope this info helps you.

    capt.
    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"....Spock
    "Do, or do not, there is no try"....Yoda

  6. #6
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    Aug 2009
    Chesapeake, VA
    Minelab X-Terra 705, White's TDI
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    Quote Originally Posted by capt1989 View Post
    The NEL Tornado coil is AWESOME on my Gamma. I have only taken it off once since I received it and that was to hunt a very trashy area with the 5" DD. I put it back on and re hunted the same area and found 2 wheat pennies and other non money items the small coil missed. It has amazing target seperation and I personally believe it allows the Gamma to be all it can be. In my hunting areas the targets are not really deep so I can't say how much deeper it will go. I have recovered a quarter at 8", my deepest so far. It pin points extremely well and I only use the pin point mode for a depth reading with this coil. I can tell a new style pull tab 90% of the time and an old style beaver tail with the tail attached and in the outward position 99% with this coil. Can slaw still gets it though but 2 out of 3 ain't bad. If you use the google chrome browser it gives you the option to translate the website to English. The coil was $168.00 plus 20 some odd bucks to send it western union. It took a little over a month for the coil to get to me in Arkansas. They will give you a tracking number but it is only good for tracking it in the Ukraine.

    capt.
    My decision is based on whether or not this is going to work on highly mineralized soil (Culpeper County, VA to be specific). I am trying to ind something to overcome this soild without dropping money on a PI machine. While a PI might be the best way to deal with that soil any advantage or way to mitigate the mineralization without buying a whole new machine would be great.

  7. #7

    Oct 2005
    XLT, Whites D.F., Treasure Baron, Deepstar, Goldquest, Beachscan, T.D.I., Sovereign, 2x Nautilus, various Arado's, Ixcus Diver, Altek Quadtone, T2, Beach Hunter I.D, GS 5 pulse, Searchman 2 ,V3i
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    A slight change in coil design isn't going to help with ground mineralisation. If the coil is bigger its going to be more hampered.

  8. #8
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    Nov 2011
    Garrett AT PRO INTERNATIONAL ,NEXUS coronado SGE,MINELAB Explorer II ,MINELAB Quattro MP ,MINELAB musketeer advantage ,ACE 250 ,White´s SPECTRUM EAGLE
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    Welcome to Ukraine is not Russia. The head super Garrett Ace 250, +40% more depth. Ossi

    "1100 years ago in the middle of Europe "
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    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...looked-me.html

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    LRL fraud debunked

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    ciudadano del universo, residente de El Paso TX
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    In general, larger searchcoils provide a larger "sweep" and a little bit more depth (not much if any), but with more electrical interference and more ground pickup than a standard size searchcoil, and some loss of the smallest targets. For searching in soils with low mineralization and not much trash, a larger searchcoil can be a good thing.

    I am not in a position to endorse specific aftermarket accessory searchcoils. However I can speak in generalities. ......Twenty years ago, the aftermarket business was pretty spotty in terms of reputation. Nowadays with the Internet, you can earn a bad reputation a lot faster than a good one, and the result has been that most aftermarket companies that have been in business several years or more succeeded because they did right by their customers. Nowadays it's hard to stay in business by ripping off customers, the Internet pretty much stops that.

    --Dave J.

  10. #10
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    Aug 2006
    Auburn NH
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    I use a NEL Sharpshooter on my E-Trac it gets great depth and pinpoints right on. Last week pulled up a 1911 quarter and another spot an indian head they were both over 8".

  11. #11

    Oct 2005
    XLT, Whites D.F., Treasure Baron, Deepstar, Goldquest, Beachscan, T.D.I., Sovereign, 2x Nautilus, various Arado's, Ixcus Diver, Altek Quadtone, T2, Beach Hunter I.D, GS 5 pulse, Searchman 2 ,V3i
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    With any coil you have to decide if its going to be sufficient of an improvement to warrant the extra cost. An example of this is my T2 with the 10 x 12 SEF coil. On small hammered silver the in ground depth was just about the same whereas with a large coin (bigger than a quarter) the depth gain was around two inches.

    How many really small/thin targets have you in your area compared to larger ones ?

    You can still waste money though as you will see reports that SEF's, NEL's, Coilteks, Razorbacks are the finest things like sliced bread but you might not have the exact model mentioned and the results could be different. Another example is the 12" Sunray coil that I prefer on the older Sovereigns but it offers little over the stock coil on the Sovereign GT.

  12. #12
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    Aug 2009
    Chesapeake, VA
    Minelab X-Terra 705, White's TDI
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.K. Brian View Post
    A slight change in coil design isn't going to help with ground mineralisation. If the coil is bigger its going to be more hampered.
    I am still a newbie to this - only been at this since December. I am trying get the most out of the machine I bought. My understanding is that a NEL coil could help me get cover more ground but only experience with my machine and its operation will make a difference in hot ground.

  13. #13

    Oct 2005
    XLT, Whites D.F., Treasure Baron, Deepstar, Goldquest, Beachscan, T.D.I., Sovereign, 2x Nautilus, various Arado's, Ixcus Diver, Altek Quadtone, T2, Beach Hunter I.D, GS 5 pulse, Searchman 2 ,V3i
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    Many fool themselves as to the advantages of larger coils. Whatever the brand the more surface area presented to the ground the more mineralisation is picked up. If mineralisation is near what your detector can cope with, with its stock coil, then going bigger will cost depth.

    Selecting an elliptical coil can help with the width being a guide to how deep it should detect and the elongated length providing a wider sweep whilst minimising the mineralisation pick up. Don't forget G.B. (ground balance) doesn't in fact balance out the effects of mineralisation, its still there doing its worse. Don't let me put you off buying a third party coil. The manufacturer should make the best for each of their models but the fact is they often don't.

  14. #14
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    Mar 2010
    Denver, Colorado
    MXT Pro, XP Deus, Whites IDX Pro w/Bills mods, TDI SL
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    I use the 5.5x9.5 Sharpshooter on my Etrac as my default coil. It seems to perform on par with the stock coil. Being an elliptical DD coil I think it helps the Etrac responsiveness since it isn't processing as many targets at a time. The delivery was only a couple of weeks and included a cover. It seems to be constructed as nice as any other coils.

  15. #15

    May 2012
    Minelab Sovereign GT ,Fisher F2 DD Coil, NEL Tornado Coil, Garret Propointer ....
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    I just bought one for my Fisher F2... on its way

 

 
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