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  1. #1
    us
    Mar 2009
    Green Bay, Wi
    Tesoro Tejon Tesoro Golden U-Max
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    Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    Not sure if thatís possible maybe there is something I donít know... Can a guy knock out pull tabs however keep nickels? Or do you knock out pull tabs the way it sounds? Doing air tests & killer b headphones I cannot make out a sound difference! Am I missing anything? Thanks.

  2. #2
    us
    Jul 2007
    Western Massachusetts
    Minelab Excal 1000, Tesoro Silver Umax, Tiger Shark and Whites MXT.
    3,637
    8 times

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    I actually am using the same set up and just got my Tejon, too. I have done air tests and found a couple of thawed spots today. I don't think that you can reject the tab and keep knickles. You could play with the discrimeter each time, but that is time consuming. I have been in areas that have pull tabs and it is tough. Due to only one tone, it makes it difficult, too.
    However, by taking it outside, I am starting to ditinguish the crackling and popping people are talking about. I am finding that it's another ball game. I think it's just going to take time, practice and alot of trash digging to really get to know this machine. I did find a bracellet today with it and there was no mistake that it was a good signal.
    The air tests were great to see how the detector works, but tuning my ear is happening out in the dirt. I hope the ground thaws more by next week so I can get back out there. Good luck with yours and I will keep an eye on this post also and I hope some experience with the Tejon will write , too.

  3. #3
    us
    Jun 2006
    Detroit, Michigan
    Fisher F75, Tesoro Tejon, Tesoro Mojave.
    679
    12 times

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    Yes, sort of. Take a nickel and a sample pull tab from the site you are hunting. Set Disc one to where the sound just barely crackles on a nickel. Set Disc two to crackle and break up on the tab. When you hit a crackle sound in disc one - it is likely a nickel. When you hit a repeatable target in disc one, quickly trigger over to Disc two. If it crackles - you know it's a tab. If it's solid on disc 2 - it's a more conductive target than a tab, which is usually a coin wheat, zinc,silver, etc. Problem is, screwcaps - if those are present, you will be (no pun intended) screwed

    I can hear a tab on mine - it's like a sharp edgy beep - on the louder side. A coin is a "round" sounding smooth target that hits small and smooth. Also, pinpointing on a tab is usually more difficult - a telltale sign. Hope that helps,
    Ian
    A bad day metal detecting is better than a good day at work . . .

  4. #4

    Mar 2008
    Virginia
    Minelab Equinox 600
    402
    293 times

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    Thanks for that info SaginawIan. I will definitely be trying that out this weekend. I am still learning my Tejon and am always looking for more education on it!

  5. #5

    Apr 2008
    359
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    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    The problem with tabs is there are at least 4 or 5 different types(alloys). Plus there are broken, round and square ones. No matter how you want to try and disc them and keep nickels you will be leaving some nickels behind.

  6. #6
    us
    Jul 2007
    Western Massachusetts
    Minelab Excal 1000, Tesoro Silver Umax, Tiger Shark and Whites MXT.
    3,637
    8 times

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    I agree with Squaby, I tried playing with the disk and it seems as though I either still get tabs as some react different or I do not get any nicklels. I set it right on where the tab disc out and some make no sound and some crackle. I was digging all kinds to see if I could single it out and I cannot as of yet. Though I am a new user of the Tejon, I have been logging some hours in parks to get used to the disc, ground balance and pinpointing. The woods are still on the frozen side around here anyway.

  7. #7
    us
    Jun 2006
    Detroit, Michigan
    Fisher F75, Tesoro Tejon, Tesoro Mojave.
    679
    12 times

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    I understand what you guys are saying - and maybe I made it seem too simple or easy. As you guys already know this is not fool proof and it is also a good point that different pull tabs bang differently. That's why I was saying if you tune it with the prevalent tab on your site - you should get close on the tab end. The nickle should be right on. If you have about 5 diffrent types of tabs - you might have to thumb your disc a bit and put a couple of stickies on your dial to find a "tab" range. It takes work, practice, and imagination, but honestly I feel like with the dual disc on the Tejon and some tinkering - you can be EXTREMELY accurate in identifying targets. I've got black marker all over my disc dials . . .

    I can only say that this method works pretty darn good - oh yes, you will still dig some tabs(broken, mangled, or odd ones) , but you should save yourself 70 percent of them when you get used to it.

    Oh yeah, another thing I do sometimes is dig about 10 tabs and get a sort of rough average of their depth and if it's like 4-5 inches - make a mental note of the tone it made (sound and shape). Then, when you get a similar tone - and combine this with the thumbing of the disc - you can fairly accurately identify a tab. If it's a softer / smaller(deeper) signal, it's likely an older coin.

    I feel confident that I can tell the sound of a tab, though. After digging thousands I think it's safe to say that the sound has distinct characteristics. It's a sort of edgy sound - like sort of a "square" sound while a coin to me is honestly quite a "round" smooth sound. I know that's extremely vague - but I think that's the best way to describe it.


    The only foolproof way? Go to a site was not occupied after 1960. It's a shame people are such slobs with their pop tabs, isn't it?

    Good luck,

    Ian
    A bad day metal detecting is better than a good day at work . . .

  8. #8
    us
    Jun 2006
    TreasureTerrain.com
    XP DEUS NOX 800
    688
    277 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Tejon and nickels... can I knock out tabs but keep nickels? Itís the sound?

    Just a reminder knocking out tabs will leave some gold behind.

 

 

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