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    Re: Tesoro means treasure. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach toda

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron P
    Great collection of finds. We were firing 1943 made 50 cal in the mid 1980's in germany and had it as part of our basic load. It was packed in ether as a preservative. Excellent reliability.
    I still find good buys on original WWII & Korea era linked .50 ammo in their airtight cans and when opened....sniffffffffff....yes Ron....it still smells the same as 31 years ago if the can had a good seal.
    Solvents are used in production of extruded Nitro Cellulose based powders as as a wash agent. These solvents give off an oder that might smell like ether after a while, but its not. I buy bulk powder in #150lb containers and they give off this same oder. Using a low flash point flammable gas as an ammo can preservative would be like washing down the floor of a fireworks factory with gasoline.

    Deese- Your finds remind me of when I live on Okinawa in 1959-1962 as a 10-12 year old. Every day I would comb the beach after the tide went out and could easily fill a five gallon bucket with .30 & .50 projectiles. It drove our parents crazy with the stuff we would bring home...and usually resulted in a visit from the Base EOD when we found something bigger. Nice finds....

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    Re: Tesoro means treasure. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    I went back today and found a 40mm tracer projectile. Scared me a little.

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    here are some pics after cleaning.
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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    humm 40 mm were normally rapid fire anti aircraft type rounds used onboard ships as their anti aircraft guns -- bofors 40 mm gun twins (2) or (4) quad mounts

    -- towed targets -- pulled by a plane on a long wire lead were shot at for "practice"--- your shells were from ships offshore shooting shoreward at those towed targets---- the tracers were every 5th round to adjust your fire with visually

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Thats a lot of them... i dig only about 10-20 each hunt on a battlefield wich was strafed very much...and very much tracers. I think thats because of these are used for practice training. Take care if You find some silver tipped ones. These are phosphoric ones.... I hope that this ones are NOT used for training-but who knows...
    The shrapnel is from driving bands of the 40mm. They are copper? Compare the shrapnel with the band on the 40mm, looks to me the same size.

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    Re: Tesoro means treasure. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deese
    Quote Originally Posted by ivan salis
    bomb practice * as well as strafing -- delayed fuses ---- exploding bombs means shrapnel
    Thanks! we had figured that the shrapnel was from some sort of impact detonation shell or timed fuse but what we want to know what particular round left these remnants, and have scoured google trying to find something that looks similar before it was blown to smitherines, because we know exactly how it looks after! haha we have a whole pile of it. The shards are all relatively the same size and broke off in basically the same geometry. Apparently there were indentions in the outer layer of whatever the shell was, and the explosion unseamed fragments at each of the grooves. The pieces all have a common width of about 3/4 inch and a variable width of .5 to 2 centimeters, depending on which fault the separation occurred at. The thickness of these pieces of copper are roughly 3 millimeters. Can anyone find an example of a shell or rifle round that maye have these thatches on the side? I am really interested in finding out what they were! thanks!!!
    I made a pic for You. You see a 30mm AA projectile (training/no explosives only tracer) wich uses the same kind of driving band. The bigger the grenade the bigger the driving band as You see on the pic....the fragment on the rigth is from a VERY big one. The width of a driving band on a 155mm Long Tom grenade is one third of this...
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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Another one with the colour markings on cal. .50. Black is Armor Piercing, blue is incendiary, red tracer, silver (aluminum) tip armor piercing/incendiary. The aluminum tip is a fuze! Dont try to open these! You can crack the black tip open to get the armor piercing steel inner bullet out. Sorry that most of Yours are in bad shape, they look good on display!
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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Westfront
    Another one with the colour markings on cal. .50. Black is Armor Piercing, blue is incendiary, red tracer, silver (aluminum) tip armor piercing/incendiary. The aluminum tip is a fuze! Dont try to open these! You can crack the black tip open to get the armor piercing steel inner bullet out. Sorry that most of Yours are in bad shape, they look good on display!
    They have been in the ocean for 70 years,I cant believe how good they have held up.I havent looked for colors,I dont think any of the ones I found come apart but I will double check.

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    very cool finds !!

    You can teel the year and location of manufacture of the casings on the .50 cal the one you show was mad in 1943 at the Salt Lake ammunition depot. The projectile with the silver/white tip is an incindiery (SP) round...it has a pellet in the tip the "Blows Up" if you looked at some of the gun camera footage when a round hit a plane it flashed when it hit...tracer round tip were usually orange and represented every 5th round.. it assisted the pilot/gunner into walking the projectiles into the target.

    Did you find any links??

    All the best...
    Christian K Thomas

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Very cool digs You must be on the fringe of a target range? Gonna put my skirt on and say be very careful!! Unexploded ordance (UXOs) can be dangerous. I only spent 23 years in the U.S. Army and up until a year ago I handled an explosive detection K-9 (ergo my user name). I now have a safer gig running a narc dog. The older the round the more unstable it is.


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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Quote Originally Posted by tnt-k9
    Very cool digs You must be on the fringe of a target range? Gonna put my skirt on and say be very careful!! Unexploded ordance (UXOs) can be dangerous. I only spent 23 years in the U.S. Army and up until a year ago I handled an explosive detection K-9 (ergo my user name). I now have a safer gig running a narc dog. The older the round the more unstable it is. Where can I get a retired k9 that sniffs out money?


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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    WOW! These finds rate pretty high on my kewl beans factor scale!!!! All this in a 10x10 area? Wonder if the whole beach is like this?
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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skelly607
    WOW! These finds rate pretty high on my kewl beans factor scale!!!! All this in a 10x10 area? Wonder if the whole beach is like this?
    I'm trying to figure out how far it goes but keep digging bullets .Going back this weekend and dig some more.

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Nice bullets those .50 cal,s do some evil damage ,over in the Nam 1968 we had 1 quad .50 in our company we used nothing less then armor penetrating rounds with explosive casing,s that quad blew a Russian made tank into tiny little pieces i love firing that gun it gave you a full sense of power .Dd60
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    If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver copper and iron why leave them in the ground to disappear forever , dig them out and save History !!

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    Re: 40mm tracer projectile. 38 qty .50 caliber bullets came out of the beach today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deepdiger60
    Nice bullets those .50 cal,s do some evil damage ,over in the Nam 1968 we had 1 quad .50 in our company we used nothing less then armor penetrating rounds with explosive casing,s that quad blew a Russian made tank into tiny little pieces i love firing that gun it gave you a full sense of power .Dd60
    Well first of all Dd60...welcome back...and Thank you for your service.

    Second...WOW what a piece of machinery....I bet it was difficult keeping that hungry thing fed...

    Regarding the finds though I am curious why no links and casings?
    Christian K Thomas

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