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    1730 Counterfeit British Half Penny, Tombac Button and Little More

    Hi All,

    I got out for a couple hours after work. I went to hunt the woods next to a field that has produced many 1700's coppers and Silvers. Anyway I was in the woods last week and got integral shank button. I sent an email to Don SJ and he confirmed it was a mid 1700's button or even could be a little earlier. So I hit the woods again today. I dug 1730 half penny fairly early in the hunt. I put it on my scale and it weighs 8.5 grams. I dug the Tombac button next. Then a little more junk and I do the pewter spoon bowl. Not to long after the spoon bowl I dug the little button which was a cool find have no idea what it is or how old it is. Last but not least I eyed the white thing that looked like a shell to me it had a pretty cool design, so I took a picture in the woods and then when I got home. I don't know if I am right on the shell idea or not so if anyone can confirm it that would be cool. Overall not a bad hunt today.

    Bubba65
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  2. #2
    Nice finds...the shell is nature's design!
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    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

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    I love the pics of the copper coins fresh out of the ground. That's a sight we all like to see. Congrats on the KGII. The counterfeits are more interesting than the regals in my opinion.
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    Plenty of nice finds there. You have a great site!
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    Nice finds Bubba6.


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  7. #7
    My non-dug Regal weighs 8.4g, so nothing unusual about that dug coin. A 1730 counterfiet would be outside of the norm & it looks fine to me.
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    Some nice finds for sure, I really like the little wagon wheel thingy. I am not sure if it a button or from a kids toy, can you post up close ups of it?
    You site has all the right signs of being a great area to hunt.
    ZDD
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    My non-dug Regal weighs 8.4g, so nothing unusual about that dug coin. A 1730 counterfiet would be outside of the norm & it looks fine to me.
    Thanks Crusader, I was going to just title it 1730 British Half Penny. Looked on a site that says they where more like 9.5 grams to be Regal, so that is why I went the counterfeit way. I also see Don agrees with you. That works for me either way. Thanks for correcting me on the half penny. I don't know how to change the tittle I would if I did.

    Bubba65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiacdiverdave View Post
    Some nice finds for sure, I really like the little wagon wheel thingy. I am not sure if it a button or from a kids toy, can you post up close ups of it?
    You site has all the right signs of being a great area to hunt.
    ZDD
    Thanks Zodiac I went with a button because the back has what looks like a shank broken off. I will post what pictures I have not sure if any better.
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    I want to thank all for the good words and for looking.

    Bubba65

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    Very nice finds

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    Nice Finds! What did the half penny give you for a conductive reading ? Thanks, Herbie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba65 View Post
    Thanks Crusader, I was going to just title it 1730 British Half Penny. Looked on a site that says they where more like 9.5 grams to be Regal, so that is why I went the counterfeit way. I also see Don agrees with you. That works for me either way. Thanks for correcting me on the half penny. I don't know how to change the tittle I would if I did.

    Bubba65
    Don't worry, since we started this new forum you can't change the title anymore, something to do with it screwing up the references
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    Could easily be counterfeit, not all were poor quality. That said, it's sort of like innocent until proven guilty... Regal until proven ctft..

 

 
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