KILLED IT TODAY CUT COIN AND 15 flat buttons

[Petrie502]

So I did some rubs, and I have pictures, I thought it was a 2 pence when I saw it but it hit in the nickel range and it's def not silver! I have no idea what it is! Maybe you guys and gals can help!!! Thanks in advance!

Oh I also don't know what kind of arrow head this is! See pics, it's heavy it's not soft like lead!!

 

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[Bill D. (VA)]

Bill, He said the oxidation reacted well with the aluminum foil and clean it so I believe what he found was actually silver. Though I'm looking forward to seeing the cleaned version if he ever gets around to posting a pic! LOL -- Sorry Jeremy, couldn't resist

A huge chuck of silver like that would not ID in the nickel range - no way. It will be interesting to see what this looks like after he finishes the cleaning.

 

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[Iron Patch]

A huge chuck of silver like that would not ID in the nickel range - no way. It will be interesting to see what this looks like after he finishes the cleaning.

Perhaps, as long as it's still hitting there and he is not just referring to his initial signal.... because any coin can hit low depending on the conditions... especially a cut piece.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Perhaps, as long as it's still hitting there and he is not just referring to his initial signal.... because any coin can hit low depending on the conditions... especially a cut piece.

IP - I've dug 70 cut pieces and none have ID'd at less than 40 on my F75 or MXT, except for the pewter fakes. I would expect a piece of this size to come in around the 60s or maybe as high as the 70s if its silver. If its still hitting in the nickel range when air tested then no way its silver.

 

[Iron Patch]

IP - I've dug 70 cut pieces and none have ID'd at less than 40 on my F75 or MXT, except for the pewter fakes. I would expect a piece of this size to come in around the 60s or maybe as high as the 70s if its silver. If its still hitting in the nickel range when air tested then no way its silver.

Then you probably do not dig many very masked targets. I've dug MANY coins that did not sound like coins until they were above the surface, and cut silver would be no different, only I can't find any of those.

 

[Don in SJ]

LOL, I have no cut silver to test or compare with but have done several studies with coppers and being cut in half on a copper DOES lower the reading in all cases, in the ground, out of the ground. (Shape matters, so does angle of coin versus coil)

I blew up one of the photos of the Spanish coin and you just cannot tell from the photo that it is not silver,nor that it is for sure. I have never tried the Aluminum foil trick but wonder if it would work even if not coin silver, say debased silver or higher grade pewter, perhaps that would make them look better also......

 

[Iron Patch]

LOL, I have no cut silver to test or compare with but have done several studies with coppers and being cut in half on a copper DOES lower the reading in all cases, in the ground, out of the ground. (Shape matters, so does angle of coin versus coil)

I blew up one of the photos of the Spanish coin and you just cannot tell from the photo that it is not silver,nor that it is for sure. I have never tried the Aluminum foil trick but wonder if it would work even if not coin silver, say debased silver or higher grade pewter, perhaps that would make them look better also......

I also wonder if being exposed to the salt water can drop the signal too. The notorious copper I talk about that registers way to low is dark compared to the way they usually come out (green) So that makes me think a chemical reaction can make a difference in the signal. I really don't have any more of an idea than the next guy on the cut coin in this thread, but that looks just like a salt water silver find, and I will probably believe it is until I am told otherwise.

 

[Erik in NJ]

He told me the reaction was quite fervent with the foil leading me to believe it is coin silver and may have been masked by a lower conductor that he didn't recover. Though I guess it could be a lesser silver alloy.

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Then you probably do not dig many very masked targets. I've dug MANY coins that did not sound like coins until they were above the surface, and cut silver would be no different, only I can't find any of those.

Many of my cut pieces were dug in heavy iron around colonial house sites. I usually hunt these areas slow, and with a machine with good target separation capability. When doing so, the high tones I get in between all the iron grunts are usually very representative of what the target actually is, i.e., a cut piece will read in the 40s or 50s almost every time. There is the occasional exception when there's just too much masking going on, target on edge, etc, but by and large the cut pieces are almost always ID'd correctly by my machine. It may also help that all the ground here in SE Virginia is very low in mineralization, and I hunt with zero disc (but not all metal). But I guess other machines could react differently to the conditions present at other sites. I'm just passing on my experience for this area, and with my machine and personal hunting techniques.

 

[Petrie502]

Many of my cut pieces were dug in heavy iron around colonial house sites. I usually hunt these areas slow, and with a machine with good target separation capability. When doing so, the high tones I get in between all the iron grunts are usually very representative of what the target actually is, i.e., a cut piece will read in the 40s or 50s almost every time. There is the occasional exception when there's just too much masking going on, target on edge, etc, but by and large the cut pieces are almost always ID'd correctly by my machine. It may also help that all the ground here in SE Virginia is very low in mineralization, and I hunt with zero disc (but not all metal). But I guess other machines could react differently to the conditions present at other sites. I'm just passing on my experience for this area, and with my machine and personal hunting techniques.

Hey bill it did ring in a little higher than the Nickle range but I pulled 7 square nails out of the same hole, it rings in silver when doing the air test just not high in the silver range I assume due to being cut, your input is appreciated as is everyone else's, I was kinda hoping for it to be counterfeit, seems a little cooler and has a could have an awesome story behind it I will post a pic this mornin

 

[Petrie502]

It was a good day

 

[Dr.Tones]

Very cool!

 

[Petrie502]

Thanks tones

 

[Petrie502]

Bump for BILL IN VA

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Hey bill it did ring in a little higher than the Nickle range but I pulled 7 square nails out of the same hole, it rings in silver when doing the air test just not high in the silver range I assume due to being cut, your input is appreciated as is everyone else's, I was kinda hoping for it to be counterfeit, seems a little cooler and has a could have an awesome story behind it I will post a pic this mornin

From the sound of things it appears your coin may in fact be silver. Small, thin cut pieces will ID below zinc penny range, but a big chuck like you have should come in close to silver dime range. How does your machine read it during an air test? I'd still like to see some pics after cleaning before rendering my final opinion (whatever that's worth).

 

[Petrie502]

Sorry it took so long I've been detecting everyday til darker es the cleaned up pics

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

Sorry it took so long I've been detecting everyday til darker es the cleaned up pics

That definitely looks like silver - case closed.

 

[Erik in NJ]

Nice, I'd apply the process a couple more times to the side with the D on it. If you want it more shiny--rub some baking soda and water on it afterwards. Looks like silver to me!!

 

[Iron Patch]

Looks like silver to me!!

I know a salt water silver when I see one.

 

[Petrie502]

See FELLAS I TOLD YOU!! Did you really ever doubt me!! Erik do me a favor and call down here to kentucky tomorrow about 1:30 eastern time if u get a chance

 

[blindbug]

Nice finds! You found these in Louisville!? Man, I really need to figure out where to hunt around here... I rarely venture further than my front/back yard, and when I do, I find nothing but clad (all while being nervous that I am doing something illegal).

Anyway, congrats on the cut coin!