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    Return to Roman Metal Working Site - WOW...

    This morning Cru'Dad & I had a quick dicussion about where to go. We had tried all our hit list of available fields last week (over 20) & it was time to switch off the search mode (for now).
    I said lets go to the Roman Site No.2 but Cru'Dad wanted to return to where he had the Celtic Gold. I agreed that was the best idea, but we agreed after doing the small patch we had missed will we move on to my suggestion.
    Both of us had no idea it would produce so many coins, so we stayed there gridding for 5 hours (10 man hours).

    34 Roman Bronze Coins (Our best 1 day total this year)
    1 Roman Silver - Billon Antoninianus of TACITUS
    Lots of Roman Pot Shards
    Lots of Bronze Metal Working pieces
    3 Roman Fibula - 1st C AD
    Roman Iron Hobnail
    Roman Bracelet Frag
    My best Iron Age (Celtic) 1st C BC - 1st C AD - La Tene Type III Brooch - Stunning Aqua Patina!
    Star Find - EXTREMELY RARE - Half of a Roman Lead Dolphin Buckle from the 4th C AD. This trial or test piece according to my expert contact is the first known example recorded in Britain. He has heard of some in mainland Europe but none here. I also checked the databases & I can't find any. This is an important find because as long as we assume this test piece was made at this metal working site, then we then have a manfacturing site for this type of Buckle. That is what I call changing History, as we know it.
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    Last edited by CRUSADER; Sep 08, 2015 at 12:07 PM.
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    Wow.. where are the coins ?
    Didn't happen ... yet. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post
    Wow.. where are the coins ?
    Didn't happen ... yet. :P
    It takes Cru'Dad about 1.5 hours to record all there details on the database. Weight, Longest Diameter, Shortest Diameter, Thickness, Amount of Wear, Denomination, Visible Letters, Head Type, Reverse Type, Die Axis, etc....
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    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    That's incredible when you can help to rewrite history, and it looks like that's what you've done. And I see that in addition to all that metal working debris that you found a substantial number of early pottery shards. Maybe that will lead to more exciting discoveries. Great job guys!!
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    MY BOOK HAS SOLD OUT OF ALL 1200+ COPIES IN LESS THAN 4 MONTHS. NO 2ND PRINTING IS ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME. THANKS TO ALL WHO MADE THIS PROJECT A SUCCESS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post
    Wow.. where are the coins ?
    Didn't happen ... yet. :P
    Forgot, he has to plot them all on a map as well with the GPS co-ords...
    Davers and AARC like this.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D. (VA) View Post
    That's incredible when you can help to rewrite history, and it looks like that's what you've done. And I see that in addition to all that metal working debris that you found a substantial number of early pottery shards. Maybe that will lead to more exciting discoveries. Great job guys!!
    Metal Working Sites are rare & this one was unknown until we put it on the map.
    Davers, AARC, Vino and 1 others like this.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    It takes Cru'Dad about 1.5 hours to record all there details on the database. Weight, Longest Diameter, Shortest Diameter, Thickness, Amount of Wear, Denomination, Visible Letters, Head Type, Reverse Type, Die Axis, etc....
    Work that will help future Peoples , with their historical research. Very Cool indeed.
    As I am finding , In life we begin having the Blissful happiness & the Wonder & innocence of a Child, then fall Quickly, then spend the rest of our lives trying to reach that point where we began ,through Pleasure , Fame, & Materials but Only 'Through true faith in Jesus , can we find Prefect Happiness or true Meaning in our Short lives on this Beautiful Earth filled with both the Light of Pure goodness & The Darkness of Pure Evil. D.

    That Said, I judge No Man.
    Davers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davers View Post
    Work that will help future Peoples , with their historical research. Very Cool indeed.
    Yeap, working arm in arm with the British Museum.
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    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    I love the way you guys do things. Its just not about the money, but the history.
    Cru, you guys go above and beyond.
    Congrats George
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Metal Working Sites are rare & this one was unknown until we put it on the map.
    Hopefully Your & Dad's Hard Work will be Appreciated in the future.
    Heck I appreciate it & would 1.000 X More If I were Local.
    Thx
    Davers
    As I am finding , In life we begin having the Blissful happiness & the Wonder & innocence of a Child, then fall Quickly, then spend the rest of our lives trying to reach that point where we began ,through Pleasure , Fame, & Materials but Only 'Through true faith in Jesus , can we find Prefect Happiness or true Meaning in our Short lives on this Beautiful Earth filled with both the Light of Pure goodness & The Darkness of Pure Evil. D.

    That Said, I judge No Man.
    Davers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vino View Post
    I love the way you guys do things. Its just not about the money, but the history.
    Cru, you guys go above and beyond.
    Congrats George
    Yes, we make a good team, even with my patience I'm not sure I could do the 8000+ records for bronze roman coins. (thats forgetting all the other items & coins)
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davers View Post
    Hopefully Your & Dad's Hard Work will be Appreciated in the future.
    Heck I appreciate it & would 1.000 X More If I were Local.
    Thx
    Davers

    The locals don't known yet.

    Maybe when we are done in 10 years time.
    wagbert and ramjet2187 like this.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Well done Cru and thanks for the history lesson
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    It must be really nice to have a bad off your game day, then come back hitting home runs. Your brooch is one stunning find a really great showcase piece. The lead Dolphin is an amazing find Cru, congrats on the first and history changer.

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    UPDATE from the expert:

    "Well I do know of a small number of British dolphin/horsehead buckles from the late Roman period found in an unfinished state which might suggest they were being manufactured near those locations (one in Norfolk, for instance, one near Cirencester and one on the Isle of Wight). Down in Kent also, a metalworking site has been found which seems to have been turning out (non-zoomorphic) buckles in the late Roman period.

    What's interesting about your example, of course, is that it's a bird buckle, with that little bird adorning the loop. I have associated the bird type with the civitas/tribal area of the Corieltavi. Plotting tribal boundaries in Iron Age/Roman Britain isn't easy, and essentially one of the main approaches is looking at coin finds. I've just been looking at Corieltavi coin finds on the mapping facility on finds.org.uk and your example is from near the probable edges of Corieltavi territory, so that maybe seems about right, particularly since travelling metalworkers might have been making them."
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    I open my prezzies out of lumps of mud. 02/10/19
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

 

 
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