🥇 BANNER Exceedingly rare Caribbean Countermarked Silver Coin Found (1 of 3 known)!

Devonrex

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I've been fortunate during the month of March and been able to get out metal detecting at my new spot one day each week. In fact last week I was able to get out twice! This new area is close to where I found many French war buttons a few years back. In my last post I had finally dug a cuff 18 (Gatanois regiment) This was a number I had never dug before. Well last week I found myself my second one! This one was practically lying on TOP of the ground ....just under the leaves! It turned out to be a beautiful cuff 8 (Bearn regiment). Although I did find a coat 8 in 2012, I had never found a cuff 8!!! Not more than 10 inches from the cuff 8 I got another reading which turned out to be a solid silver knee buckle! The soil is almost 50 percent sand at this site so I could immediately see the WC and what looked like 2 lions stamped in the back. Other finds that day included a cuff eagle button, a couple of brass pieces to a Civil War shoulder scale, a brass very early, crude set of cufflinks and a small kepi buckle. Now to the the previous week. At the same spot I had barely turned onmy Nautilus DMC IIb when I dug a dropped Gardner, followed by a beautiful engraved brass keyhole to either a large chest or door. Now is when things get interesting. The only coin I had dug in this spot was a 1736 - 1795 Kao T'sung (Chien - Lung Dynasty) Chinese Coin. This was a strange find to dig here and the first I had ever found. Well, in the immediate area where I had dug my cuff 18, I started to move all the fallen logs out of the way. You don't realize how many good finds I have found over the years by doing this! Well not more that 8 feet from where the cuff 18 was found I got that good brassy two tone beep I love to hear! After digging down just 4 inches out popps a silver coin!!! Again because of the soil conditions I could immediately see a crown, the number 3, and another symbol counterstamped in the coin . The coin was also holed and from the design on the back I knew I had either a French, British, or Spanish coin (even though it was heavily worn). I can remember thinking "Could this be some sort of regimental Rev War ID tag?" I couldn't really detect anymore after finding this coin and I immediately went home. Once home I posted my finds on my Facebook page and not more than 5 minutes later my good friend and dealer Paul Chandler wrote what I wanted to hear. "You are correct! This is only the third Rev War regimental ID tag I have seen in 35years of dealing and digging! I was speechless. I have never found a Civil War ID tag after 30 years of digging and here I had just found a Rev War regimental ID tag! Well I immediately needed confirmation from Don Troini, the authority on Rev War artifacts. If you dig and ever find a rev war relic of importance he is the man to contact! I posted on his Facebook Rev War page and the discussion was intense! He, however, is unsure as to what this is. He did say the crown was not in the shape of a British crown so he didn't think it was British. Others said it was a bale seal or a coin weight. Well friends....... I've been digging, as I said for over 30 years, and I know whithout a shadow of a doubt this is no bale seal, or coin weight. Coin weights are always made out of brass...... and this was a silver coin at first ! And a silver bale seal ....HAHAHA. Now back to the silver knee buckle I just dug. After I got home I immediately posted this on facebook and within minutes another friend sent me a link to early 1700's British silversmiths. This link is a wealth of knowledge. All the initials of British silversmiths were shown. Listed clearly was the silversmith WC. William Cripps .....circa 1757!!! Also shown were all the other marks associated with early British silver smiths. Suddenly I knew what the mark below the 3 was on my counterstamped coin. It is a assay mark OR Towne mark showing purity of silver and is associated with a town or city in a country such as Britain or France! I am going to send some pictures of the tag over the internet to some people over in England and see if they can help me decipher what mark this is........ I still feel this could be a Rev War soldiers regimental tag. Whether it is British of French or Hessian ........ I don not know. What I do know is it is DEFINITELY NOT a bale seal or coin weight. If I had an authority on early world silver coins, they could also probably tell me based on the reverse of the coin what country the coin is from and what dates. You can bet I will be metal detecting at this site again soon!!! HH Devonrex
 

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Iron Patch

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Oh yeah... what part of the uniform did the Rev War soldier wear this? ;) Couldn't resist, but pretty sure no offense will be taken!
 

JamieD

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Wow, potentially only the third example ever recorded. Incredible find
 

Z.K.

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Um...this is amazing. Bramblefind, way to come through with the id. Devonrex: :occasion14::notworthy::occasion14:

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hogge

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Oh yeah... what part of the uniform did the Rev War soldier wear this? ;) Couldn't resist, but pretty sure no offense will be taken!
Can I like.......3x "like" this comment?
 

Iron Patch

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I think Bramble should get an Honorable mention for that post and ID! It's not even the first time she has ID'd a multi thousand dollar find!... not to mention more misc. IDs than ANYONE on this website. (and many I know the finder never would have figured out - because many had tried)


If you think so you should go back and "like" her post! And say you agree! Or bombard the T-net admin. with messages. ;)
 

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CRUSADER

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Devonrex

Devonrex

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Ahab8

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Absolutely incredible find and this ID is absolutely awesome. Tnet at its finest right here. Congrats DRex on an incredible BANNER find
 

CRUSADER

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Absolutely incredible find and this ID is absolutely awesome. Tnet at its finest right here. Congrats DRex on an incredible BANNER find

Yeah, shows how much that dealer knew.
 

Iron Patch

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Yeah, shows how much that dealer knew.


There's many people who guess who should not be guessing. There's an easy way to validate it all... you ask how much the person would buy it for right now. A Rev War ID tag... a dealer who knows his stuff writes that check in a heart beat... the guy who is throwing out IDs, or insane values, which actually happens on here... they are not interested in spending their money, not even for a fraction of what the value would be... if the item is actually what they suggest it is. Money talks, you know the rest.


PS: If I ID it, I'll buy it!
 

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Devonrex

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Absolutely incredible find and this ID is absolutely awesome. Tnet at its finest right here. Congrats DRex on an incredible BANNER find
Thanks Ahab. I had always known that a few regiments from France met Lafayette at Yorktown after sailing from the Bahamas. This coin was no doubt in the pocket of one of those men. I can only imagine what this coin has seen!!! This just shows you how relic hunting is so invaluable to being able to retell history! I am amazed that this little piece of silver originated in the small Bahamnian Island known as St. Bart. I can not wait to get back to this site to see what else may be awaiting me just below the surface! HH Devonrex
 

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Isaac

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B A N N E R ! ! ! ... other than that... speechless!
 

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