Catch up post-eagle medallion, flying eagle cent and more

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It's been a couple of weeks since I posted my finds and I've been five or six times so this will cover them; sorry for the long post. I've continued to explore several thousand acres of adjoining permission (two owners) in an area settled in the 1730s/40s.

On the first hunt I worked the area around the home site where I found a paste knee buckle. After recovering a horse buckle and a plain knee buckle I dug a very interesting round stamped brass disc. At first glance I saw a left-facing eagle-interesting. After rubbing some dirt off of the front side I noticed some writing around the outer age-"Smith & Robbins/Charleston, SC."

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I knew this was something different, and I could tell that it was in outstanding condition. But what was it? After I got home I cleaned it and posted pictures in the "What is it" forum

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Thanks to Bramblefind I know that Smith & Robbins operated a wholesale hardware store at 313 King Street in Charleston, in the 1820s. Apparently they sold guns in addition to hardware

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Other Tnetters contributed very useful info; it was looking like the object was the center disk from a "tongue and wreath" belt buckle, but that may not have been the case. Another possibility is that it was attached to a wooden object, such as a box for dueling pistols. The search for a positive id continues-please post comments if you have any ideas.

Here are all of my finds from that hunt

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A return trip to the 1700s home site close by yielded a couple of flat buttons, part of the handle from a pewter spoon and a pair of sewing scissors

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Next the son of the owner of the 3,000 acre adjoining tract took me to several sites he had found on the property & we detected them together. First stop was a turn-of-the century house that he had recently found in the woods. The first target I dug was a dateless buffalo nickel, which was a good sign.

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I also dug this interesting-looking pin; no idea what it was used for

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Then we headed to two large fields where he has found a lot of 18th century relics including a real and a couple of KGs. On the way he showed me a family cemetary in the woods close by, with three head stones of family members who lived there in the 1700s.

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In the field where my friend found the coins I found a lone flat button, a couple of pieces of a bell and a brass keyhole.

The last stop involved scouting a field that had not been hunted much. As luck would have it we found the site of a structure that I'm convinced was a barn; it was loaded with big iron. The most interesting was this blacksmith-wrought plow blade that cleaned up nicely. It's a beast, weighing in at four pounds

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Another interesting find was this "cleavis," which attached to the front of a plow assembly

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A few days later I decided to scout a wooded area of the other owner's property. I knew that Union troops had camped in that area and also hoped to find a home site. I was not disappointed, as I located a nail bed of square nails. The hunt turned up two toe taps, which may have been from Union troops or could have been civilian. I also found a pocket knife, horse buckle, iron spoon handle and this piece from a "J. Woodward & Sons" 12 gauge shotgun

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The last hunt was a return trip to the new site. Not far from the first nail bed I found the nail bed of a second 18th century structure. After digging several shotgun shells I picked up another mid-60s signal that I assumed was a shotgun shell. I almost passed it by but decided to dig it anyway; I'm glad I did. It turned out to be an 1857 flying eagle cent, most likely dropped by a Union soldier. This was my first FE cent.

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Another civil war relic that I dug was the lever from the nozzle of a Union powder flask

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Civilian finds from the day included a garter clasp and some sort of clip that had a pin in the back originally

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Other finds were a handle from an iron ladle or large spoon and the largest harmonica reed I have ever found

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Well now I'm up-to-date :thumbsup: Thanks for reading the long post & HH
 

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Worm-Slicer

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The Smith & Robbins piece I would guess is off a saw handle. Many of those had eagles on them. I haven't seen this particular one identified as that, but just what I would figure it is, especially with the maker's mark there too as they usually had that also. Especially lean toward that even more knowing from your post they had a hardware store.
 

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Wow you've been busy, I'd be tickled to death to dig all those relics and coins. :notworthy: I believe the scissors is a wick cutting scissors though and not for sewing.

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Excellent post Dnd! You sure are lucky to have THOUSANDS of acres of awesome ground to hunt...unless you get the itch for some modern clad, you have plenty ground for you and all your friends to hunt without beating the same patch of earth to dust..congrats on a BUNCH of great finds! Ddf
 

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The Smith & Robbins piece I would guess is off a saw handle. Many of those had eagles on them. I haven't seen this particular one identified as that, but just what I would figure it is, especially with the maker's mark there too as they usually had that also. Especially lean toward that even more knowing from your post they had a hardware store.

Thanks for the info-that is a theory that seems very possible. Another Tnetter with a lot of knowledge about these things thinks that it was probably attached to wood, so your theory makes sense. I'll probably never know for sure, though :icon_scratch:
 

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Looks like an awesome bunch of hunts! :thumbsup: Those are some nice finds! The Flying Eagle is a really nice piece. That buckle (is it a knee or shoe?) is also a very nice relic. Nice job recovering some history.
 

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Wow you've been busy, I'd be tickled to death to dig all those relics and coins. :notworthy: I believe the scissors is a wick cutting scissors though and not for sewing.

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Thanks for the clarification. That's very interesting; I had never found one of those before.
 

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Excellent post Dnd! You sure are lucky to have THOUSANDS of acres of awesome ground to hunt...unless you get the itch for some modern clad, you have plenty ground for you and all your friends to hunt without beating the same patch of earth to dust..congrats on a BUNCH of great finds! Ddf

These permissions are the result of a ton of research and some door knocking/networking. I really did luck out with these & I'm sure I will be exploring the properties for years to come.
 

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Awesome post Glen! You've been busy for sure. I love that eagle and I'm glad you got somewhat of an ID on the company who made it. Looks like its right in the time frame that I was thinking it was from. Excellent job on that piece of hand forged iron too. That turned out great. Glad to see you've been getting some hunting in and I'm looking forward to your next post.
 

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The saw handle idea does not ring true for me. All of the tool labels I have found were on bolt heads. Like this one. Just my two cents worth DND.

I will say that what ever it is, it is extremely cool.
 

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Awesome post Glen! You've been busy for sure. I love that eagle and I'm glad you got somewhat of an ID on the company who made it. Looks like its right in the time frame that I was thinking it was from. Excellent job on that piece of hand forged iron too. That turned out great. Glad to see you've been getting some hunting in and I'm looking forward to your next post.

Thanks Brad. That plow blade was a bear to clean and it was in the electrolysis tank for a long time. I'm going to give it to the property owner; he was really interested in it and I think it's always a good idea to give something back to folks who allow us to detect on their property.
 

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The saw handle idea does not ring true for me. All of the tool labels I have found were on bolt heads. Like this one. Just my two cents worth DND.

I will say that what ever it is, it is extremely cool.

It's definitely a head-scratcher but I do like it, whatever its original use.
 

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Looks like an awesome bunch of hunts! :thumbsup: Those are some nice finds! The Flying Eagle is a really nice piece. That buckle (is it a knee or shoe?) is also a very nice relic. Nice job recovering some history.

Thanks VT. Regarding the buckle, based on its smaller size I was thinking knee buckle but now that you mention it the buckle is curved lengthwise like a shoe buckle (a knee buckle would have been curved lengthwise. Maybe it was a child's shoe buckle?
 

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You've got some really good finds! It is possible that your harmonica is actually the reed out of a squeeze-box?
 

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Nice bunch of find good place to go back .Can,t help with id. In those days was common to make hole but the use ....
 

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