Indian Artifacts, could use some help

[smokeythecat]

I went down to the river...got some flakes a few small pieces and a couple points. THEN I hit a yard sale area and the person was dumping their artifact collection, or part of it and I bought some items. The first four pics are from a yard sale. I'm not doing so well tonight getting the pics in the order I want them here. The fifth is my find of the day. The sixth is as follows:

It is a 3" long smoothed piece of semi transparent "Williamsite", a variety of serpentine. I think it was man-used. Very pretty stone. Maybe was part of a wrapped or snapped off bead. It is easy material to work with, very soft. The light shines right through it.

The second item in the same picture, found maybe 10' away at the waters' edge is a rounded clear aqua object. I thought either aquamarine or then glass, but there are some definite lines cut across it. I don't think you can see that from the picture. This site goes from paleo to today. (pulltabs). The early English settlers visited it in 1609. It was a huge trading post in the 17th and 18th century.

I think the big grey one (with repaired tip) is an unfluted clovis? Any ideas on the others?

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Then the rain came. I used to know all this stuff, not anymore.

Thanks and enjoy.

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[catherine1]

The gray one is not a clovis.......its not fluted.

 

[smokeythecat]

Some clovis are not fluted, I'm either thinking paleo lancelate, don't know the name or maybe Guilford, but the Guilfords "wide" part is normally more toward the base of the point. The way the stone is, that little notch at the base is a failed attempt at a flute. There is a gnarly knot of rock right above the notch which would make fluting near impossible. Of course, If I tried to make an arrowhead, I'd probably put an eye out. I've watching videos of people making them....and am in awe of their skills.

 

[Kray Gelder]

I have no knowledge of these things, but I like the looks of your finds. Congrats!

 

[smokeythecat]

Here's the last three. One in the middle is just a flake. One on the left has a broken end, it's a woodland triangle from Vera Cruz, PA jasper. One on the right I believe is a drill. View attachment IMG_1197.jpg

 

[vferrari]

Nice collection.

 

[smokeythecat]

Thanks. It will take me days to figure out what kind they are. The site I was at still has a lot of folks go there. No digging however. Right now, copperheads and ticks abound.

 

[Trezurehunter]

Here's the last three. One in the middle is just a flake. One on the left has a broken end, it's a woodland triangle from Vera Cruz, PA jasper. One on the right I believe is a drill. View attachment 1614292

Nice finds Smokey. Are you sure the one in the middle is not a drill also ? I cant tell the thickness from the picture, but it sure looks like one from the top view.

 

[oxbowbarefoot]

Does the grey one have any basal grinding? that'll help determine if it is paleo or not. It looks more like an unfluted Barnes point than a Clovis, but it's pretty rough and hard to tell for sure.

 

[smokeythecat]

Trezurehunter, it could easily be a drill. They (somebody) replaced the point on the grey one and painted the whole blasted thing. I carefully (not) got the stupid grey paint off today. Oxbowbarefoot, it was not an expensive piece, so that's ok, I knew it was painted before I bought it and YES it has basal grinding and up the sides some too. That one "hump" in the stone prevented it from taking a flute correctly but it looks like they tried. I thought the paint job was obvious in the photo. Sorry if it was not. I'll get another photo in a bit if the thunderstorm misses me. At the price I got it for I could not resist. I let it sit all night in Goof off and took a brass brush to it and it feels better now. They grey paint on the tip did not come off, so it looks pretty decent. The underlying stone look Ohio. I guess.