Nuestra Señora de La Concepción?

[Spnanon]

Hello Treasure Hunters!

Stumbled across this the other day on an undisclosed beach in Saipan, and am looking to get some more eyes on it. I realise it is impossible to verify any kind of authenticity or positive ID through imagery attached, but thought I would see what kind of opinions and possibilities the forums here would kick up. It is well known that the Spanish Galleon "Nuestra Señora de La Concepción" sank off our shores in mid 1600's and people find jewellery and other artefacts every now and then.

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Treasure of Victoria Peak - Grab it through Amazon!

[cudamark]

The key will probably be to have the stones evaluated by a jeweler and see the way in which they're attached.

 

[Jose The Goon]

Very interesting find. Very well could be from the "Cagafuego". Best wishes in your research. Cheers !

Cambodian ivory maybe? Precious jewels from Siam, Burma & Ceylon ?
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestra_Señora_de_la_Concepción

"The vessel was wrecked in 1638 in severe weather off the island of Saipan while travelling from Manila to Acapulco laden with Cambodian ivory, Chinese silks and rugs, cotton from India, camphor from Borneo, spices from the Spice Islands, and precious jewels from Siam, Burma, and Ceylon. All of the 400 souls aboard her perished, and her ballast and treasures were lost to the sea."

 

[CRUSADER]

The key will probably be to have the stones evaluated by a jeweler and see the way in which they're attached.

Look like paste or glass to me.

 

[tinpan]

Hi Try putting a Ultraviolet light of the gemstones ? TP

 

[ARC]

Welcome to Tnet.

Cant tell ya for sure... but that is one oddball item.

the arrangement and selection of materials in combination like that is not "typical" of jewelry designs of that period.

just plain odd... and not knocking it... but that is one "ugly" design / combo... but this is irrelevant.

Not all jewelry makers have the same "talent" / "artist" abilities... so this could be meaningless as to its origin etc.

 

[Joe-Dirt]

I have no idea what that is, it looks half jewelry and half oyster

 

[A2coins]

Thats really cool let us know if you find any more info on those

 

[CRUSADER]

Welcome to Tnet.

Cant tell ya for sure... but that is one oddball item.

the arrangement and selection of materials in combination like that is not "typical" of jewelry designs of that period.

just plain odd... and not knocking it... but that is one "ugly" design / combo... but this is irrelevant.

Not all jewelry makers have the same "talent" / "artist" abilities... so this could be meaningless as to its origin etc.

My first thought was a school project!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Welcome to Tnet from Toronto Spnanon!
What a great looking find... as cudamark already suggested, I'm thinking a trip to a reputable jeweler is in order.

Dave

 

[Dug]

Very odd looking. Are we sure it is one piece of jewelry or maybe it is more than one item globed together by coral?

 

[Valley Ranger]

Now that is different. Hope it turns out to be treasure!

 

[Spnanon]

Thank you all for the feedback. Turns out it was a hair clip of cheap modern design. Can find them online nowadays for about 20 bucks...surprising how quick it had become part of the reef. Doubt it is more than 5 years old or so. Probably dropped off a diver or swimmer.

 

[CRUSADER]

Thank you all for the feedback. Turns out it was a hair clip of cheap modern design. Can find them online nowadays for about 20 bucks...surprising how quick it had become part of the reef. Doubt it is more than 5 years old or so. Probably dropped off a diver or swimmer.

OK thanks, I thought it looked very modern.

 

[Robot]

Nuestra Señora de La Concepción sank off Hispaniola!

Welcome Spnanon

The Nuestra Señora de La Concepción sank off Hispaniola a long ways from your beach.

https://www.sedwickcoins.com/shipwreck_histories/concepcion.htm

I would believe the ship that may have contained your Jewels could have been the Santa Margarita which sank off Saipan in the 1600`s.

History of the Santa Margarita ? Iota Partners & Sea Search Armada



Your finds do look like similar jewels found during this period...have them checked out.