Draped Bust and a Silver Sunday

xcopperstax

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It's been awhile since I've had any time to go out hunting.. cue up some dramatic music. Yesterday I got to break out and dig. There's a park that we've been hitting on a regular basis and it was time to see what else we could get. The Silver bandit and I met up at 6:00 am (thanks daylight savings) and started swinging as the sun rose. I found a 52 Washington quarter which was a great way to start the day. Next up I found a silver rosie. The bandit was not to be outdone and his first coin of the day was a stunner: He called me over and I looked at the big round silver edge in the hole. In my mind I said it's probably not a coin because the edge was not reeded. Boy was I wrong! It was a nicely worn Barber half from 1908! This was probably the best find between either of us ever at this spot. I lost my focus and started to worry that I was done for the day and was not going to find anything else. It's not superstition just some kind of weird metal detecting anxiety. Haha! Next up I dug an 80's signal thinking it could be an IHP or wheatie. It turned out to be Draped bust! It was twisted like a warped vinyl record. I think it was resting between a couple rocks. Check the photo of the twist. No date it's pretty beat up but that was a great find for me. I love the draped bust coins because they have so much variation and they are always old. The beauty of this spot is that it's old fill and you never know what you will find.. it has such great potential when you think about it. I wouldn't be surprised if some Spanish silver were found. Next I found a nice little button. It has most of the gilt left and it's in pretty amazing condition. There is some writing on the back of it but I can't make out what it is due to corrosion. The rope makes me think it's navy, the lion and crown make me think it's British. Either the button was lost in mint condition or it's not that old. I was able to find two images of it online: One described it as a livery button and one as an antique button. It's definitely a 2 piece button and I want to believe it's 1800's but we need an expert opinion here. I went on to find 2 more Silver Rosies and a 42 Merc. That was quite a decent day for me and I can now rest easy knowing more lies in this little piece of metal detecting paradise. You may ask how the Silver Bandit did? He lived up to the moniker with 9 silvers and 2 IHP's!

One more question: Does anyone have any advice on straightening my coin? Can I crush it in a vice back into shape or will that further mar the surface?
 

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Jeff H

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Nice. If you are going to use a vice, put it in between a couple of pieces of hardwood and see if that works. I like it the way it is though.
 

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Yup! Couple pieces of hardwood and a vise. Works great!
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I've not been able to positively ID that button in the past. It has elements of the East India Company, but the Lion holds a Globe, not a Crown.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/706989191/pitt-co-vintage-brass-buttons-pair-of

Its described above as a Livery Button, if so its a odd looking one, as it looks more military.
I would like to see any other views?
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xcopperstax

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I've not been able to positively ID that button in the past. It has elements of the East India Company, but the Lion holds a Globe, not a Crown.
[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/706989191/pitt-co-vintage-brass-buttons-pair-of

Its described above as a Livery Button, if so its a odd looking one, as it looks more military.
I would like to see any other views?
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Crusader thank you so much for the info! That button is extremely close to this one that you put the link in for but there are a couple tiny variations in the details. I'll keep looking. What are your feeling on the age of it? The area where I found it did have a lot of military activity over the years but no battles.
 

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Crusader thank you so much for the info! That button is extremely close to this one that you put the link in for but there are a couple tiny variations in the details. I'll keep looking. What are your feeling on the age of it? The area where I found it did have a lot of military activity over the years but no battles.
Tough one, as the general design looks mid 20th C, but the Crown type is closer to Victotia, so a sudo-livery/military blazer button makes the most sense right now!
 

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Nice finds, congrats! :occasion14:
 

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xcopperstax

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Tough one, as the general design looks mid 20th C, but the Crown type is closer to Victotia, so a sudo-livery/military blazer button makes the most sense right now!

Ok well thank you for the thoughts on it. Sudo Livery style button it is!!
 

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Nice finds. I agree with the others. I use a vice with 2 pieces of wood all the time to straighten coins out. Works great.
 

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xcopperstax

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Tough one, as the general design looks mid 20th C, but the Crown type is closer to Victotia, so a sudo-livery/military blazer button makes the most sense right now!

Crusader I was able to find out that it is from the Cunard line. With the long history of Cunard it could be later but on Ebay most of the buttons that look like this one are listed as Victorian not that they are the authority but it seems like it's likely to be Victorian. Thank you again for the help! I owe you. If you ever need help with identifying a roman coin don't ask me: I don't know haha. But thank you!
 

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Crusader I was able to find out that it is from the Cunard line. With the long history of Cunard it could be later but on Ebay most of the buttons that look like this one are listed as Victorian not that they are the authority but it seems like it's likely to be Victorian. Thank you again for the help! I owe you. If you ever need help with identifying a roman coin don't ask me: I don't know haha. But thank you!
Of course, that does make sense. (didn't consider that) Most likely wore by the officers of the ship.
 

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Congrats on a great hunt:icon_thumleft:
 

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Awesome finds, nice work. Whereabouts in Mass are you?
 

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xcopperstax

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Nice finds. I love that draped bust just as she is. Congrats!
Thank you!!!! I probably won't bend the coin back to shape. If it was in better condition I would but I don't think it will add to the coins look.
 

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