LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND ,Alabama
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    LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND ,Alabama



    OLD STORY RELATES INTERESTING LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND


    Shipp Pond, a natural lake, is located between Castleberry and Brooklyn, Alabama.

    According to an article in a 1950 edition of THE BREWTON STANDARD, gold is hidden somewhere in Shipp Pond. The 1950 story, written by the late Edley Franklin, relates much of the history of the pond.


    THE LEGEND OF GOLD

    It was the year 1862. The Civil War was being fought, and throughout the South, gold and other valuables were hidden for safekeeping.

    Many later reclaimed their treasures. Others are supposed to have died, or some unfortunate occurence such as changed landmarks or bad memories kept them from it.

    It was supposed to have happened one night during the Civil War. Sheets of gray clouds sliding slowly beneath a quarter moon made slowly-moving ghostly shadows across the still waters of a large pond, surrounded by a sloping ridge of virgin pine.

    Out of nowhere, a man driving a buggy appeared in an opening among the trees. Twisting and turning, he made his way between the pines down to the edge of the pond. Getting out of the buggy, he tied the horse. He then took a wooden box or small chest from under the laprobe in the front of the buggy. He placed it on a "billy" which was composed of four short logs dogged together and tied there at the water's edge.

    Untying the billy, the man picked up a long pole lying on top of it and began shoving the raft out in the pond, keeping it headed straight toward a tall dead pine that was skylighted on the other side.

    Halfway across the pond, the man stopped. He stood there for several minutes, looking in all directions, first toward the dead pine, then the direction from which he came, then to the opposite sides of the pond. Then picking up the wooden box, he lowered it into the water beside the raft and dropped it.

    "Won't no damn Yankees ever find that gold money!" the man said to himself. He got in the buggy and drove back the way he came.


    HISTORY OF THE POND


    The man was Henchie Warren, great grandfather of President Warren G. Harding, and the owner of the Warren Plantation in Conecuh County. He is buried on the old plantation, now known as the Jay Villa plantation and owned by (the late) Thomas McMillan of Brewton. The pond is known today as Shipp Pond.

    Shipp Pond is a large, wide open, treeless, pine woods pond containing approximately 43 acres and is located between Castleberry and Brooklyn. It is one of the many ponds scattered over a radius of about ten square miles, all formed, so geologists say, from lime sinks.

    The land on which Shipp Pond is located was given by the U. S. Government to the Florida and Alabama Railroad to aid in the construction of a railroad from Montgomery to Mobile. In 1900, Cedar Creek Lumber Company, now known as T. R. Miller Mill Company, bought the land from Ransom Shipp, for whom the pond is named. At the time, the pond was open to the public for fishing, but only contained a few black bream, a few mud-cat, turtles, and alligators.

    For $1.00 a yearm Cedar Creek Lumber Company leased the pond to a fellow by the name of Harding who wanted it for a bream pond. And, so the story goes, he wanted to seek Warren's gold which was believed to still be in the pond.

    The bottom of Shipp Pond is soft, black, muck mud. Anything heavy will, after a long period of time, gradually sink below the surface of the muck. According to the legend, the reason that Harding never found Warren's gold was because it has settled into the mud.

    Some fellows from Evergreen are said to have stocked Shipp Pond with its first trout. They caught the trout in nearby "ELL" POND.

    Several years later, the late PETE SKINNER, local fisherman, was on Shipp Pond and heard what he thought was a trout strike. It was. He caught 2 and was told by Harding to catch every one in the pond. Pete caught 19 more that afternoon, the 21 weighing 25 lbs.


    BIG FISH


    In 1934, T.R.Miller Mill Company fenced and stocked Shipp Pond, closing it to the public. In 1935, they started fertilizing it, using from 9 to 12 tons a year. Fish grow larger than in swamp lakes. Shellcrackers have been caught that weighed 2 3/4 lbs., Bluegills 1 3/4 lbs., White Perch or Crappie 2 1/2 lbs., and a record trout weighing 11 3/4 lbs. has been caught in the pond.

    No gars are found in Shipp Pond, neither have I ever heard of anyone catching a jackfish there. Occasionally, a mudcat is caught.

    Strange things happen at Shipp Pond. Mrs. Annie Smith, Mrs. Nannie Sowell and myself were fishing in the same boat when we saw a large crane catch a trout and wade out of the water and drop it onto the bank. Backing the boat to the bank, we chased the crane away and got the trout. With about 15 people looking on, we weighed the trout and it weighed an even 2 lbs.

    But while we were having our experiences with the crane, Mrs. Ruth Sowell, Malcolm McMillan, and Mrs. McMillan were fishing in a boat on the opposite side of the pond. Mrs. Sowell first caught a small trout. Before she could get it out of the water, a larger trout came along and swallowed the small one. With a dip-net, Mr. McMillan landed the whole business up in the boat. The large trout weighed 3 1/2 lbs.

    Now, if you are a regular fisherman at Shipp Pond, who knows but what that next fish you catch will be over the spot where Warren's gold lies buried deep in the mud.

    And so, as long as years come and go, and sheets of gray clouds beneath a quarter moon make those same ghostly shadows across Shipp Pond, the legend of Warren's gold will remain
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  2. #2
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    Your Only One Swing Away From Discovery

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    Re: LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND ,Alabama

    this isn't too far from me I might have to see if I can get access to it. Wonder how big the gators are in it now
    Your Discovery Has History Count On It
    Enjoy the dig, treasure the time

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    I GOOGLED SOME info on Henchie Warren and found a note by a descendant that he died in 1855, so she sez he could not have put the loot in the pond at THAT time and that he also is NOT kin to Harding. The History of Conecuh county (on line) sez he lived at one time at what is now Jay Villa a large Plantation about 6 miles to the North. The Pond is now owned by Cedar Lake land and timber company. I think they or their Parent company also owns Jay Villa and a lot of other land in that county.
    I AM SURE MANY BURIED THEY VALUABLES when some of Steeles Union troops that went to Pollard and then to Old sparta and Burned many buildings at 4 pm one afternnon, just before going on to the Battle at Blakeley Al. There was a good road for thse days from Bellville , south to Old sparta, Bretwon and on into Pensacola Fl.
    l was there, Shipps Pond, yesterday, also around Old Sparta. If you want more info, google up Old Sparta, Murder creek, or the history of conecuh county by Benjamin Franklin Riley.

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    hu
    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

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    Re: LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND ,Alabama

    Hinchea/Hinchey had a son ...Hinchey Jr....which would have put him in the right time frame.....

    (7) Hinchey Warren Born October 5, 1848 Conecuh, Ala
    Died August 18, 1937 -Ala Death Records, Monroe Co Cert. 18528

    Now...whether he was the Presidents grandfather,is another story.....
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Sep 2006
    Fairhope Alabama
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    Re: LEGEND OF GOLD IN SHIPP POND ,Alabama

    Yep, the history of Conecuh county said he had a son, a Jr. Jay Villa is high atop a hill and you can see for miles in all directions. I was Impressed with it. But that whole area is not as it was back then, it was tall pines and hardly any underbrush, thats not the case today.

 

 

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