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    Japanese Treasure Marks and Symbols

    We found these Japanese Treasure Markers or symbols at the dried up bottom of a 35 foot water well lined up from top to bottom with coral rock blocks.

    Can anyone from the Philippines or elsewhere familiar with the Jap treasure signs tell what they mean. Please see attached pictures

    Thanks,
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    ANYBODY WANT TO TRY TELLING WHAT THIS MARKERS ARE?
    Last edited by ekimsonlac; May 17, 2013 at 06:50 PM.

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    ekimsonlac,
    I do not study those markers and therefore have no idea, but

    I think the apparent construction differences are interesting.
    The bottom (1st) course reminds me of flagstone veneer cut and fitted more precisely
    than the subsequent courses which look like the usual natural stone wall construction.
    If the 1st course is dimensionally more consistent with facing flagstone then I wonder why.
    Doesn't seem like an obvious method for a first course in a stone (round) wall....
    but I am no mason.

    Also interesting to me is the inch or more eroded out from under the first course with no apparent settling.
    Did they use mortar ?

    Nice photos.

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    Do you have the measurements on the drill hole how wide, how deep and the dimensions around the top, a close-up of the bottom

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    I see a dry well. why do you think there is signs here. Have you probed? Could try a detector. Treasure has been buried in wells before. I don't know if I would bury a treasure unde the water line. Why do you think there is treasure here?
    Life is too short to be serious all the time. So if you cant laugh at yourself, call me....I'll laugh at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casca View Post
    I see a dry well. why do you think there is signs here. Have you probed? Could try a detector. Treasure has been buried in wells before. I don't know if I would bury a treasure unde the water line. Why do you think there is treasure here?
    The signs are Japanese army marker signs for their buried treasure. The Japanese camp was in the area. Detectors have detected it, I was asking help for what the signs mean. Are you a builder or an engineer? You seemed to notice the construction details more than the signs.

    Thanks

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    I believe the point is, if those carved up blocks are at the BOTTOM of a 35 foot well, they wouldn't be put there to mark a treasure spot. The blocks were most likely excess stones use to line the walls of the well, period. Any true treasure signs would be OUTSIDE of the well.
    "Dobie created the HUNGER............Von Mueller said, EAT". comment by HELM Associates on the dedication page of their book, Treaasure Lead Generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shortstack View Post
    I believe the point is, if those carved up blocks are at the BOTTOM of a 35 foot well, they wouldn't be put there to mark a treasure spot. The blocks were most likely excess stones use to line the walls of the well, period. Any true treasure signs would be OUTSIDE of the well.
    That would depend where the treasure site is. If in a jungle or on a mountain you are right, but what about if this one is near the city square. Would you mark it outside where anyone could easily see it? Their purpose for marking is so the Japanese soldiers or their children or grandchildren could later come back and recover the treasure. The marks at the bottom will confirm they were on the right well. Digging would expose other marks to further confirm. These is how the Japanese Army did it.

    The outside and top markers on this site were probably unintentionally covered/hidden, because someone else later on, who did not know about the treasure and the marks meaning, plastered it with cement. So no marks/signs can be seen on top. It is also possible that they did not have the marks on top because the building in the city square were the reference markers, right. Then they would just look for the well and the marks at the bottom would confirm this is the site.

    For example: If I buried treasure in Baghdad, I would write a letter to my wife and children the location of this treasure site, in case I get killed before the war ends or my tour of duty. My instructions would say look for the Ministry of Welfare (or whatever) building in Baghdad. There is an old dried up water well behind it. Below the well find theses marks/signs as these indicate the burial site. So you see on this example, the particular site - the building mentioned is the only one in Baghdad and it is the reference point.

    Of course if the wife or children come too late, the building may be demolished and replaced with a 60 floors office building and the well covered up - the treasure markers are gone and the treasure remains UN-recovered

    Anyone who has studied the Japanese treasure marks and symbols would know that these are indeed genuine marks. Even in the sites that digging has commenced they still find marks (other from the outer location/reference marks) on the spot where they start to dig and every one or 2 meters inwards or downwards.

    I was recently able to secure the Japanese symbols, codes and markers booklets in PDF, PM me if you want a copy and you can try to decipher what they mean.

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    Cool Water Well

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    Good day sir,

    I was relate regarding your post about water well treasure. Unfortunately,until now, i still working in this well alone looking for the right location inwards/downwards. During my survey with this water well,the owner said that this water well are very old & made of hard concrete materials. The height of this well is 8 ft from the ground to bottom/flooring. The bottom are sealed with a solid concrete cement mix with sand & shells. The 1st day,i start working at the floor,clearing-up some dirt & muds & i found broken glass pointer colored green measured 4inches in length,also found some broken pottery shown on the pictures. Now i convinced that there's a hidden treasure in this well. I found also in the eastern part of the wall, the sign DOT or Circle & its perfect man made circle similar with your post picts. During my operations,i start opening at the eastern part of the well using a power tools co'z it's really hard cement materials they used. The first signs i got in 2ft going inside is the Turtle, his body are facing up,the back shell of the turtle are facing down. I just follow only the signs i've got but i don't perfect idea regarding the meaning of the signs. I don't have any locator/scanner,i'm just doing with my own idea maybe i'm so luck. So i widened area to make myself comfortable to work. I opened the floor of the well using heavy power breaker tools co'z it's really hard similar to a steel. I used more force to break the floor cement of the well. About 2 weeks of fighting myself in the floor,i ran 1foot only but i was surprised co'z i found A broken heart sign,4 inches length pointing down & i think it's a warning sign/danger sign. After a few hours, i've encountered another Heart sign,perfect heart & there's a small dot or hole in the center of the heart pointer direction down. The heart measures 3 inches in length. Then i continue to dug down until i found again a lot of signs, any different kinds of water species like,seahorse,fish,turtles etc...I'm now @ 11ft. The mixture of the concrete cement now are mostly a white sand with a lots of broken shells mix in the cement. I used 2 subpump 1hp each. The water become more pressure co'z it's rainy season. the water source now is came from the bottom of the well. My Q is, do you have any idea where the true location of the treasure are buried? I was confused co'z some signs i've got they point to east or west or north & south but the 2 hearts are pointed downward. Unfortunately i stop now co'z the water are so acidic,sometimes colored green & black & itchy. If you want more info's,here's my contact # +639278856921 or +639182937143 or my Email: r.motox@yahoo.com

    Bydway,I found something in my camera shot's at the floor of the well that i can't explain. See the full screen view & check it with yourself. Thanks.


    God blessed us all.
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    PLS CALL ME PAG MAY TIME KA...

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    I cannot help you with any of the signs or markers that you have found but I can tell you this! If you keep finding heart markers/signs pointing down, then you may want to proceed with extreme caution when digging deeper into the well. The Japanese are well known for placing Land Mines in such locations to protect what they have hidden. If you hit something metal while digging in the bottom of the well and it doesn't explode, it would be adviseable to get out and reaccess what is down there and plan accordingly. First, I would examine the walls of the well very closely for inconsistences in the composition as an excavation could have been made into the wall to hide a treasure, then sealed back over with similar or non-similar materials. In any case, if you find an area that is inconsistent, proceed with caution in excavating this area as well!


    Frank
    Last edited by huntsman53; Jul 06, 2013 at 09:29 PM.
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    Just keep on digging.. all the good signs are there. hearts meaning Treasure downside.... Good Luck....

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    Angry

    "Just keep on digging.. all the good signs are there. hearts meaning Treasure downside.... Good Luck...".

    WRONG WRONG WRONG...YOU ONLY HAVE HALF OF THE STORY..HEARTS WITH HOLES IN THEM OR HEARTS WITH C
    CRACKS OR BROKEN PARTS MEANS DEATH TRAP...SURE HOPE
    ekimsonlac


    IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO TAKE YOUR ADVICE...YOU COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DEATH
    PLEASE DONT SPEAK ABOUT THINGS YOU DO NOT KNOW OF FOR SURE..VERY VERY IRESPONSIBLE!!!!!!





    Last edited by rangler; Aug 20, 2013 at 03:58 PM.
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    ekimsonlac

    huntsman had it CORRECT!!

    A. YOU ARE IN A JAPANESE TREASURE PIT
    B.THE WATER IN THE PIT IS BECAUSE YOU BROKE THE BOTTOM CEMENT PLUG
    c YOU ARE EN EXTREME DANGER OF SETTING OFF A DEATH TRAP, EITHER EXPLOSIVES, POISON
    OR A BOMB OR LAND MINE..CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION..

    YOU HAVE AL READY SET OFF THE WATER TRAP..YOU CANNOT BUY ENOUGH FUEL TO RUN THE PUMPS
    AS THE PLUGS ARE PLACED ON TOP OF THE WATER TABLE!!

    SOME ADVISE FOR YOU.
    1.STOP ALL DIGGING
    2.STOP ALL PUMPING
    3. WAIT FOR THE DRYSEASON
    4.LOOK FOR A NEAR BY STREAM
    5.THAT WILL BE ANOTHER SOURCE OF THE WATER TRAP
    6.THEY USED CLAY PIPES UNDERGROUND LEADING INTO THE PIT
    PRIMED AND FILLED WITH WATER THEN PLUGGED, UNTIL YOU
    BREAK THE PIPE WITH YOUR DIGGING..FILLING THE PIT WITH
    WATER FROM THE STREAM..AND OR THE WATER TABLE.
    7. TELL EVERYONE YOU GAVE UP,.COVER THE TOP OF THE PIT
    IF YOU CAN AND CAMOUFLAGE IT FROM SITE.
    REMEMGER YOU WORSE ENEMY BESIDES THE DEATH TRAPS
    IS THE LOCAL POLICE..THEY ARE CORRUPT AND WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO BRING THE
    GOODIES TO THE SURFACE..ONLY TO STEAL THEM FROM YOU..HAPPENED TO MANY OF MY KAPABIANES

    ONCE THE DRY SEASON GETS THERE IF THE WATER IN THE PIT GOES DOWN ITS THE "WATER TABLE TRAP"
    IF THE WATER DOES NOT GO DOWN IT A LOCAL STEAM THAT IS FLOODING YOUR PIT.
    STAY IN TOUCH AND I WILL HELP YOU WITH THE SIGNS ALL I CAN,
    THE JAPANESE YAMASHI-TA CODE IS DERIVED FROM THE SPANISH TREASURE CODE.. WHICH I HAVE BROKEN FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSE USE EXTREME CARE..SILLY ANGEL MAE KNOW ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS
    DONT LISTEN TO HER OR THE SHORT ONE. BOTH KNOW NOTHING OF THE PHILS AND YAMA CODE.
    GOOD LUCK, MAY GOD BLESS YOUR ENDEVORS
    ORO FOR ONLY THE ONES WITH TRUE KNOWLEDGE
    RANGLER
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    Hmmmmmmm...........STILL not reading all of the thread huh

    THIS guy, ricogaviola, is the one digging the booby trapped well........NOT ekimsonlac. Ekimsonlac is the member who started this thread and HIS well is 35 feet deep. Ricogaviola wrote that HIS well is 8 feet from the ground to the bottom BEFORE he started digging.

    I WAS going to give you an "attaboy" on what you wrote concerning the booby trap and the BAD advice that one poster gave........KEEP DIGGING. But, I won't since you gave your advice to the wrong digger and just couldn't help but put in that little "dig".

    EDIT: I took a screenshot of the post in case the name got magically changed. For historical accuracy, you understand.
    Last edited by Shortstack; Aug 22, 2013 at 02:38 AM.
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